Scotland : independent or a lamp post

The liar Johnson who is still Prime Minister is in Scotland today (Monday), or as it is known by the Express newspaper, “certain parts of the UK”. He is on a self-proclaimed mission to unite the people of Scotland, or as it is known by the BBC “the north of the UK”. Johnson is here to do his usual thing of keeping as far away as possible from any actual Scottish people in case they prove to him that they are indeed united in their loathing for Boris Johnson.

This time Johnson isn’t just keeping away from Scottish people in case they have pro-independence tendencies, or belong to the dwindling band of Labour supporters, he’s also keeping as far away as possible from the Scottish Conservatives. With the exception of toady in chief Alister Jack, who knows that without Johnson in Downing Street he’d be out of a job as soon as you could say “ineffectual colonialist toff”, all the other elected representatives from the Scottish Conservatives have either already come out and said that Johnson should resign, or they are doing their best to keep as low a profile as possible in case anyone asks them if they think that Johnson ought to resign. This is being made easy for them by a Scottish media, sorry, a media in the north of the UK, which isn’t exactly hounding them for answers. It’s far too busy with the vital job of telling scare stories to pensioners for that.

It’s a sign of how dysfunctional British politics have become that Johnson is still in office. It tells us that there is no accountability in the Westminster system, and without accountability there is no real democracy.

Johnson didn’t come to Scotland in order to learn anything. He most certainly didn’t make the trip in order to engage with Scottish opinions or views. He has zero concern for Scottish opinion. He is only here in order to demonstrate that he is the man in charge, the world king gracing a part of his domain with his presence. Johnson is visiting Scotland in the exact same way that a dog visits a lamp post and cocks its leg on it. To assert ownership and territorial dominance. It is pathetically transparent. Johnson is here for some photo opportunities which he hopes might impress the only people whose opinions he does care about – at least for the time being – the opinions of those Conservative back bench MPs whom he intends to threaten, cajole, browbeat, or bribe into keeping him in office.

It’s not just Johnson who has made it clear that he has no interest in listening to Scottish opinion, the Labour party leader Keir Starmer is just as bad. While Johnson was avoiding contact with any Scottish people, Keir Starmer was in the north of England where he asserted that there was “no case” for rejoining the European Union and made it clear that he would not try to take the UK back in. During an interview on BBC radio Newcastle he said: ” We have exited the EU and we’re not going back, and let me be very clear in the north east about that – there’s no case for rejoining.”

There is of course a case for rejoining. Starmer doesn’t want to make that case, but to say there exists no case for for rejoining the EU is flat out false. We’ve already got one UK party leader who is defined by his lies, we don’t need another. Starmer is telling that lie because he knows that his only route to Downing Street lies through recovering the so-called “red wall” seats in the north of England which voted in favour of Brexit and which fell to the Conservatives in the December 2019 General Election. The interests of strongly remain voting Scotland are to be sacrificed to Northern England’s political imperatives. In Scotland we know that there is a very strong case for rejoining the EU, but the British Westminster politicians who claim that they want Scotland to remain a partner in this so-called Union won’t even allow that case to be given an airing. And that right there tells you all you need to know about how Scotland’s needs can never be met within the United Kingdom.

Starmer hasn’t just given Scotland a lesson in how the UK is fundamentally incapable of meeting Scotland’s needs or providing a forum for Scotland’s concerns, he has also just blown up the small and diminishing chance of the Labour party in Scotland of recovering even a fraction of its former power and influence. Labour has already made it clear that it is just as disposed as the Conservatives to ignore the outcome of the democratic process in Scotland and continue to try and block any attempts by the Scottish Parliament to do what it was elected to do and deliver a second independence referendum. This makes it all but impossible for the Labour party to regain those voters in Scotland who defected to the SNP because they either support independence or because they see the necessity of another independence referendum in order to settle the constitutional question. In the Tories Scotland already has a party which defines itself by its visceral opposition to Scottish independence. It doesn’t need another.

Now Starmer has shown Labour’s remaining supporters in Scotland, a majority of whom were opposed to Brexit and who feel alienated by the self-harming course that the UK has taken since leaving the EU that they cannot look to Labour to undo the damage of Brexit and to restore the rights of European citizenship that were lost when the Conservatives took the UK out of the EU and into the hardest possible Brexit for purely selfish party political ends.

Scotland has already been abandoned by a Conservative party which knows that it does not need Scottish votes in order to secure power in Westminster. Now Scotland has also been abandoned by a Labour party which has as its over-riding priority the need to shore up its support in the English regions. Labour merely enables the Tories and can only ever attain power in Westminster by adopting Conservative policies.

If Scotland has been abandoned and rendered voiceless within the UK then there is no point at all in remaining within the UK. Independence is the only way that Scotland can either rejoin the EU or return to the Customs Union and Single Market. But more than that, independence is the only way that Scotland’s voice can be heard. Scotland deserves better than to be nothing more than a lamp post upon which British nationalist politicians mark their territorial dominance.

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59 comments on “Scotland : independent or a lamp post

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  2. Movy says:

    It is actually quite amazing the extent to which Starmer, who actually needs Scottish seats even with the red wall, is making no effort of any kind to encourage Scotland to vote Labour.
    He can’t out-Union the Unionists and to continue to make it crystal clear – there is no dubiety or flexibility in his pronouncements – that re-joining the EU is out, as is indyref2 (despite the democratic vote of we Scots), seems foolish in the extreme.

    • grizebard says:

      He doesn’t need the Scottish seats, historically speaking. With just one or two notable exceptions in particularly turbulent periods, England has always chosen the ruling party, and Scotland has just tagged along. But no longer. The best that Starmer can hope for now is that more Scottish seats go to the SNP and less to the alternative Unionists. Which is why he doesn’t give a damn about Scotland, and it doesn’t half show.

      I just pity the poor long-suffering remaining Labour supporters in Scotland, who are effectively excluded from having any real voice and instead are reduced to being “led” (to use a euphemism) by a bunch of impotent whingers. They also would be far better served in an independent country of their own.

  3. Margaret Jean Noakes says:

    Well said Paul. It’s no longer a case of wanting independence, we need it to survive this desperate situation that the Westminster gov has brought about.Scotland can do so much better.

  4. bringiton says:

    I think it is very important that the SG make clear that it will not be the SNP or anyone else who will decide whether Scotland returns to the EU but the people of Scotland alone.
    We have had more than enough down the years of elites,often not based in Scotland, making these sort of decisions on our behalf but not to our benefit.
    British Labour have made it absolutely clear that they are going to serve the interests of an English constituency exclusively and will,along with their fellow “British” political parties,simply ignore Scotland.
    They don’t need us and we sure as hell don’t need them.

  5. Old Pete says:

    Spot on Paul, Starmer is just more of the same Westminster superior rubbish and not for for purpose.

  6. Old Pete says:

    Starmer and his soft Tory party are not fit for purpose.

  7. Tam the Bam says:

    Sometimes I switch radio stations in close succession just to see whoever No10 throws out to repeat verbatum on each station….what they dont say (if you get me).
    Today,however…I tuned into Times Radio around lunchtime and picked up a so-called journo-comedian called Matt Chorley.
    Guests included Sarwar/Alf Young…now journo for the times….seems like he’s changed his spots because I seem to remember he was pro-indy in 2014…..today he was decrying the cause….he is another saying the case for State Pensions to be paid to indy-scots by rUK is ridiculous.

    Just how fat was your paycheque Alf……never show your face at Cappielow again you disgrace.

  8. Pogmothon says:

    I’m leaning on a lamppost at the corner of the street, in case a certain little lady comes by.
    ‘mon the Nicky

    Is that the time aready, aye the black yins ma coat.

  9. Tam the Bam says:

    O/T
    I’m sure we can all remember the Aberdeen North Sea Guru…Sir Ian Wood telling Scotland….”oil will run out in the next 10 years”
    Well we all know that was a LIE ….but more pertinently …is this the man you want to listen to when he talks about …..’a gradual transition.’

    • Pogmothon says:

      Once again the clue is in the name.
      When ever you see Sir sumat or other, making pronouncements on Scotland, her people or the future. Try replacing Sir with one of the choices below.

      Suck Up
      Succubus
      Slaverour
      Sycophant
      Shit Head

      You should not do this for humorous, derogatory, or malicious reasons. But simply to remind yourself that you will most likely need to swallow a shovel full of salt with what comes next.

  10. Bob Lamont says:

    Aye, very well summarised, the lamp post analogy colourfully apt.

    For all the many reasons folks voted for it, the Brexit they got was very different to their initial idea by the time the hawks in the Tory Party had finished with it, not an opinion but a fact. That so many remain convinced this is exactly the Brexit they voted for, is testament to the power of MSM and one of the most frightening propaganda campaigns in British history.

    As the full ramifications of Brexit are felt in summer, the gaslighting will continue via MSM that all the ills are the EU’s fault – That is the backdrop Starmer and Co have to deal with, despite alienating Scotland, Wales and NI where the gaslighting is swamped by LEDs, the problem is not England, nor is it the EU, but the London ruling elites.

    A majority in England see Scottish independence as inevitable and many favour it, all that’s left is to thole the fearmongering which has already noticeably begun, clearly they know something we don’t, yet.
    Voting to end the mendacious circus act of London rule is all that’s left to be done, then we can build a nation to be proud of, and a decent body politic.

  11. Capella says:

    Judging by the hysterical newspaper headlines today, we’re on the brink – the brink of independence and the brink of war. The war brink reminds me of the advice to journalists in The Shipping Forecast. If stuck for a headline print “Storm Threatens Village”. when no storm materialises print “Storm Spares Village”.

    As for the threat of independence, “Defiant PM goes into battle for the Union” says the Scottish Daily Mail.
    “Divorce from UK could cost Scots £10 billion a year”, says the Scottish Daily Express.

    Is that all? Worth every penny I say. If the UK and USA succeed in forcing the EU to stop importing Russian oil and gas the price will soar so high we could all be billionaire oligarchs soon.

    The joyous headlines from the BBC.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-60385397

    • Welsh_Siôn says:

      Ha ha ha – Notes from a proof reader’s desk. Number 5382b

      Did you see the ambiguity in that SDM headline, Capella?

      “Boris says he WILL carry on to next election … and will take on SNP alongside Douglas Ross”

      Now then:

      1 Either ‘Boris’ [sic.] will take the fight to the SNP at the next election with DRoss by HIS side
      OR
      2 ”Boris’ [sic.] will take the fight to the SNP with Dross AT THEIR SIDE at the next election. That is, BOTH the SNP and DRoss are Boris’s enemies.

      Oh, to be a well paid and respected editor and not produce such c*ap journalism!

      🙂

      • Capella says:

        I think it’s called “constructive ambiguity” WS, (invented by Henry Kissinger). But that would imply some degree of intelligence in BJ which is debatable.

  12. Skintybroko says:

    Great piece Paul. Our wonderful North British Media, never miss a trick to down the Scots aided and abetted by the political “heavyweights” of the conlablib unholy trinity. Slightly O/T anyone watching the curling – Steve Cram is one of the most negative commentators I have ever heard must be a Brit thing

  13. davetewart. says:

    This levelling up looks so easy, on hour in the colony and home for dinner.
    Wondering why it took 300 years to start the process.

    Don’t worry Scotland there’s a cut in the black hole, we’re only £10 billion now.

    The tory dowden says we have to chose between english nationalism and russian nationalism in the war.
    No mention of indepenence for the Ukraine and Scotland.

  14. Canvassing during the run-up to the 2015 General Election, going around the doors in formerly Labour stronghold, I couldn’t believe the response. The reply you got at door after door, was, “They, Labour, have let us down. Never again.” As a result we, the S.N.P, won the seat easily.
    I’ve always insisted that the only danger to an S.N.P Scottish Government, would come if the Labour Party in Scotland backed Independence.

  15. Latest on the Tory levelling down.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60373405

    UK wage growth lags rising cost of living

    UK wage growth continued to lag behind the rising cost of living between October and December, figures show.

    Wages rose, but when taking inflation into account, pay showed a 0.8% fall from a year earlier, said the Office for National Statistics (ONS).

    The economically illiterate Sunak is responsible for this and your soaring energy bills.

  16. rodwiddowson says:

    > “the north of the UK”.
    Someone else should check my working but if you take the most easterly part of the UK (somewhere near Lowestoft I think) the Southern (in the Scilly isles) Western (near Derry) and North (Muckle Flugga) and then do the averages you end up with the middle of the UK being near Langholm. This has all sorts of interesting ramifications.

  17. Hamish100 says:

    Ot I see the “geezus the job” appeal has started at the metropolitan police.

    First out is https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60379131. . Amazingly we are told that the “ Met” (supposed to convey cosyness and trustworthiness ) is racist.

    How about is corrupt at the top. How hard it must be to be an honest Police Constable trying to do your job.

    We should await more PR statements and stunts.

  18. Again on the topic of Tory economic illiteracy…

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-60385630

    A very high employment rate is a bad sign. It mean jobs are not paying enough, so more people are having to work and for longer.

    You can see that, outside of recessions, employment was historically 72-73%. But since austerity began under the Tories, with real wages pretty much stagnant for over a decade, so employment has become unusually high as people have been forced to go to work to make ends meet rather than look after the kids/elderly parents…go part-time…take early retirement…

    So in fact Scotland having lower unemployment and lower employment rates than the UK suggests in fact wages are better here.

    But the economically illiterate Tories think people having to go to work rather than take early retirement is somehow a good thing.

  19. Dr Jim says:

    GB news even resorted to that serial misleader of the Labour party ex advisors John McTernon to Laboursplain that even though you paid your money into the *British* pension system your whole life, if you don’t live in the UK (which would be an Independent Scotland) your pension entitlement from the UK becomes null and void, I look forward to all the English Welsh and Scottish pensioners who live abroad in many other Independent countries being told that, Mc Ternon even did the oil running out Sir Ian Wood talk pre 2014 when all the oil would instantly disappear the day following Independence only to reappear if Scotland voted NO which magically happened and guess what? Sir Ian Wood made the discovery that there indeed was another 50 years of oil still there to be had for himself and the British government, and since then licence after licence is continuing to be granted to oil companies because lo and behold there’s billions and billions of barrels of the black stuff still there

    Oil will still be extracted from the North sea for a very long time, probably not for burning but the manufacturing industries can’t do without the stuff because practically everything is made from it, you can even make the stuff that powers electric car batteries with it so oil isn’t being done away with it’s just not being set on fire to heat hooses and power factories

    The UK pensions minister has made this point very clear, if you paid your money in you’re entitled to repayment from the system you paid into, sure there’ll be a transitional point in the future when Scotland will take over such pension responsibilities in a Scottish system but until that negotiated time the UK treasury is liable

    We see today the usual suspect newspapers punting the same garbage that the SNP expect English taxpayers to continue to fund Scotland by omitting the facts, and the number one fact they continue to deny is that the so called Scottish block grant (I bloody hate that terminology) is only the return of Scottish taxpayers own money minus deductions for, and here it comes! PENSIONS, SOCIAL SECURITY, DEFENCE AND FOREIGN AFFAIRS, which in and Independent Scotland of the future the UK treasury would not control because Scotland would retain all of its own taxation thereby giving no rise to the other bastard terminology *The fiscal transfer*

    All international borders would return to the control of Scotland on Independence showing clearly the terror being displayed by the UK government that all oil and gas in the North sea and even the 6.000 square miles of Tony Blair stolen block of ocean roughly off the coast of the North of England to Arbroath return to Scottish ownership, now that strikes massive fear into every English and Unionist politician because it’s what they’ve always used as the cash cow to borrow money on as the UKs greatest asset, except now it would be Scotlands, and alongside Scotlands monster renewable energy capacity as billionaire Jim Rogers of Bloomberg and world investor says, why would anybody invest in England in that future when Scotland would own all the assets, and that Scotland would be the place investors would fall over themselves to get into

    Finally because this post has been very long I apologise for my lack of brevity, but this week in Scotland we might just be about to hear the sound of a big bang and my wee birdy suggests that it might be coming from Holyrood xxxx fingers

    • barpe says:

      Excellent post Dr Jim, it needs printing and sending to every Scottish home, to combat this ever-growing tide of misinformation from Bawjaws and his entourage.

    • UncleBob says:

      Well said. Sounds like my usual tea time rant!! as I shout at the News on the telly.

    • wm says:

      I don’t think their is much more I could add to that post Dr Jim, When will the doubters realise.?

  20. Dr Jim says:

    Boris Johnson has finally opened his very own big mouth on the upcoming Scottish Independence referendum saying ” It’ll never happen because it would be a disaster for the UK” well for once in his life he inadvertently spoke the truth, it would be a disaster for the UK but not for Scotland who would be the country not bloody well in the UK because we’d have left their England Benighted Kingdom to Johnson’s predicted disaster

    • Bob Lamont says:

      Aye Dr Jim, it was always going to be “a disaster for the UK” once they threw away their lifebelt of “the Vow” after 2014, then added Brexit to their catalogue of decimation for Scotland.
      For all Gordon Brown’s excuses of “Look at the small print”, all most Scot’s hear is echoes of “Parcel of Rogues”…
      There are scores to settle come Indy2 for sure, they will come out of the woodwork when the deed is to be done, and London knows it.

      This was firmly rammed home after watching Tom Egbers second episode of “Scotland : The Sick Man Of Europe” when amongst other places he had visited Kilmarnock and chatted with the ex Johnnie Walker folks – They reeled off the industries they’ve lost and the reduction of the town to a pale shadow of it’s former self, echoing many towns where industries once thrived now reduced to brownfield sites.
      What I found striking was the ever present Unionist, not through Tom’s collusion. I almost threw up at the tail end of Mary Maklin’s spiel of regeneration when the Covid recovery was pushed as reason to delay Indy, straight from the DRoss “Handy quotes to get you out of shit” handbook.
      If interested, it has been posted on the BiS Facebook page by Derek Mair who has promised to follow through with I believe the next 4 episodes, but this is the direct link to the latest, thankfully subtitled https://www.npostart.nl/toms-schotland/13-02-2022/VPWON_1317871 as even single dutch gets me confused.

      As a presentation to a Dutch audience I found the first two episodes slightly unnerving in parts but fair, yet it at least it demonstrates an abiding interest for the Dutch in Scotland’s condition beyond the propagandised version c/o the Scotland Office and the BBC in Scotland.

      • Alex Clark says:

        Thanks for that link Bob, “O wad some Power the giftie gie us To see oursels as ithers see us!”

        I’m watching the first episode now after finishing that one. Cheers.

    • Naina Tal says:

      Dr Jim,
      I would think that statement from the Fat Owl of the Remove is a signal of things to come. The dirty tricks employed at the IndyRef are going to be on steroids next time. They aren’t going to play fair. Not in their nature.
      PS Just heard the Andrew formerly known as Prince has settled out of court. Presumably his maw helped him lot?

    • Scottish indy would certainly be a disaster for the rUK, and it’s good to see Johnson inadvertently highlighting that.

  21. grizebard says:

    Just in case you’re wondering where this latest {wooo-ooo-ooo} pensions scare has come from, look no further than the upcoming local elections in May. The Tories as putative Saviours of the Union now looking increasingly like a busted flush, thanks to BoJo the lying party animal, cue a return of the Labourite wing of the Bitter Togetherists, trying to get back in the action by frightening their older faithful. It’s the same old familiar faces from back when, all we’re still lacking now is Murph. (A return too far?)

    Problem for them is that they – still! – have nothing better to offer, so it’s back to the well-thumbed tired old playbook of yore. And with less older faithful around to scare into the bargain. It has all the promises of a well-deserved flop.

    • grizebard says:

      To which we may add a sprinkle of voter suppression on top via the usual channels:

      “I used to vote SNP for nn years but because of xxx and yyy [insert hopeful spurious concerns here] though I still support independence, now I won’t put SNP on my list of preferences after the obvious losers.”

      Which of course will bring independence all the faster. Duh. They must think we’re all stupid (though alas some inevitably are).

      • Dr Jim says:

        At the latest count there must be around ten million ex SNP voters who are totally disillusioned by the party, by the time the vote arrives we should be up to thirty or forty million unhappy ex SNP members, who knows we’ll have to ask Jim Sillars, is he still working for the Labour party btw?

    • Bob Lamont says:

      There was also a clear campaign fired up on road tolls, the National had two such articles in less than a week, the usual “reports have said..” nonsense as ever implying SG are going to hammer motorists, an old favourite of the propaganda monkeys, but coupled with trying on the Pensions mk2 scaremongering, it’s pretty clear an announcement on Indy2 is anticipated soon.

      So what’s next ? George Robertson reprises his “the end of world security” spiel in the Times with a Ukraine twist and possibly even removal of warnings over imminent meteor strikes on Scrabster ?

      PS – I’m 750km from Kiev, not subjected to UK hype or Ben Wallace’s marble-mouthed claptrap barrages, but I get the distinct impression nobody actually gives a shit.

  22. Welsh_Siôn says:

    Why British nationalism is not nationalism – a Labourplaining version courtesy of the Shadow Minister for Western Colonies.

    https://nation.cymru/news/i-dont-like-nationalism-because-its-insular-says-shadow-welsh-secretary/

    ‘I don’t like nationalism’, because it’s ‘insular’ says Shadow Welsh Secretary

    15 Feb 2022 2 minute Read

    The Shadow Welsh Secretary has said she does not “like nationalism” because it’s “insular”.

    But Jo Stevens, the Labour MP for Cardiff Central, denied that Keir Starmer, her party’s leader in Westminster, is a British “nationalist”, insisting that he is a “patriot”.

    […]
    ____________

    What irks the poor dab of course is that come indepence she can no longer claim a role (even assuming her Party wins the next General Election) as the bwana responsible for the natives west of Offa’s Dyke.

    She could still lay claim to the ermine, I s’pose, but we’d be long shot of her by then.

    Incidentally, if she is so convinced of the rightfulness of ‘patriotism’ as that espoused by her boss, she should be directed to that quote of Dr Johnson*,

    “Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel.”

    * No kin. No Prime Ministers were harmed in the preparation of this post. Pity.

    • grizebard says:

      How two-faced can Labour get without imploding from the inevitable contradictions of its own insufferable pomposity? They just can’t let up on their high-minded assertions of moral superiority, lecturing the rest of us on how pure is their supposed internationalism compared to the rest of we base sinners, while simultaneously their leader persists in staunchly declaring his unswerving allegiance to Fortress Britannia.

      One familiarly-fatuous lecture for the Welsh and the Scots, whilst simultaneously openly pandering to the rampant rightwing isolationism of large parts of England. There is ordinary political hypocrisy and there is Labourite Hypocrisy, a stratospheric level of the miserable thing. And they think we, in this age of the internet, somehow don’t notice…?

  23. yesindyref2 says:

    From the National:

    “The Paisley march [AUOB] will begin at Ferguslie Gardens at 12.30pm and take the following route: Ferguslie Main Road, Broomlands Street, Wellmeadow Street …”

    Could I suggest anyone going does not go walkabout off the route?

  24. Dr Jim says:

    Only a matter of days ago the Labour party was explaining to us all that it’s understandable that Scotland doesn’t like Boris Johnson but we shouldn’t be put off the Union by one politician so stick with our union and vote NO to Independence

    The trouble with the Labour and Tory argument here is their entire tactical approach to Independence is to attack Nicola Sturgeon as though she and only she cannot and will not ever be replaced by another politician

    This is where their own stupid lack of logic lands on its head, Scotland shouldn’t vote for Independence because Nicola Sturgeon is bad but should stick with the union even though Boris Johnson IS bad while we wait for someone better to be voted in by the electorate of England, which could be bloody anybody just as opposed to Scotland having a choice as any of the current banana feet brains

    We’ve been haudin oan the noo for 315 years, if the English can defend the democratic principle that every other country on earth should make their own choices of who governs them and their rights to freedom as they’re doing right now over Ukraine yet still refuse a second UN instruction to remove themselves from the Chagos islands which they are holding by force of arms then there’s something rotten and hypocritical about Englands approach to Scotland in this *voluntary* union is there not, and Boris Johnson sounds exactly like the character accusations he’s hurling at Vladimir Putin

    So who are the real dictators? well it’s pretty obvious to me right here in Scotland that England is trying to subvert Scottish democracy by threats and menaces

    Scotland can’t do anything about whatever Russia’s Mr Putin does way over there towards Ukraine but we can do something right here about England’s Mr Johnsons aggression towards Scotland

    A quick reminder for Labour party supporters in Scotland, the next Prime Minister of England could just as well be Nigel Farage because it sure as shootin won’t be Labour

  25. James Mills says:

    Rumour has it that lifelong welfare scrounger , Andy , has asked mater for the readies . She was not best pleased as she may have to dip into her offshore accounts to supply his Get out of Jail fee !
    Wise heads may be anticipating a little conflagration at Windsor Castle soon with a suitably padded insurance fee paid for by the grateful nation to Her Maj.

    Whatever happens , Andrew won’t sweat it !

    • Dr Jim says:

      Looking forward as to how they sell this to Scotlands taxpayers, y’see the Queen gets her social money invests in arms sales and stuff to the middle east makes lots more money then gives it to her son to pay for his debauched lifestyle by way of fines fines in Americas courts then the government in England increases her benefits so she doesn’t lose out on her upkeep of carrots for her horses

      God save the Queen, well I suppose if anybody’s going to save her God’s the very man
      Dum de dum de dum de dum de de de de dee de, theme from the Archers, follow the bouncing ball

  26. samdog56 says:

    Hello My friend.  I hope this finds you feeling a little better. Sorry for the late thank you for the wonderful maps I bought for a good friend at Xmas. He loved them and said it made him a bit emotional, that’s what he gets for living in this God forsaken bog pit of a country. PLEASE continue the demands for another Ref to leave the Union.  Many here are wishing they could as well. 20 mile tailbacks at ports, Ireland about to kick off again just so a FAT LYING CORRUPT SON OF AS BITCH AND HIS HOARDES OF CREATURES can pretend to be Churchill. A lying law breaker and his party that supports him are not fit for running the Dept of Dog Shite. I really hope you will continue with your posts they are the best I get.Take care and my very best regards. Gordon Rowley.

  27. Alex Clark says:

    Earlier tonight there was a link posted to a Dutch documentary about Scotland that you might think of as a bit raw or brutal but it depicted real Scots living real lives and we can’t shy away from the problems that do exist in the here and now and we must not ignore.

    I watched it and I’m glad I did so I found for myself the first of these films and I found that to be well worth watching too. Here’s the link to the first program, best bit is the second half at the Oban Highland Games where it seems every ordinary person supports Independence and only the toffs are against. Have a snatch lol.

    https://www.npostart.nl/toms-schotland/06-02-2022/VPWON_1317870

    Here’s the link from earlier from Bob Lamont, warts and all it’s worth a watch because these are the issues that only Independence will solve. It was because we were in the United Kingdom that we lost all the industry and Johnnie Walker in Kilmarnock.

    https://www.npostart.nl/toms-schotland/13-02-2022/VPWON_1317871

    We can and will be better than that and these communities will prosper again once we vote for Independence and get rid of the shackles that bind us to the failing policies of Westminster.

    • Capella says:

      Thx Alex and Bob. Sounds interesting. Will watch tomorrow when more awake. 🙂

    • Bob Lamont says:

      Aye Alex, glad you found them interesting also, and I agree that the Oban segment in the first became almost hilarious when the kilted “betters” opined. It simultaneously pictured “class” and a minority perspective.

      Similarly the Mary Macklin piece in the second was unnerving in showcasing the false even if she means well – An enterprise hub will regenerate a tiny fraction of what Kilmarnock lost by way of pride and dignity in an active working community, Mary’s perspective on Indy was every bit as disconnected from the local majority as the kilted worthies in Oban.

      Kilmarnock is no different to many other towns, decimation of industries under predominantly Tory governments abandoning entire communities to their fate without the slightest concern, thus is has been for Scotland since Thatcher’s obsession over “a service economy” sent the demolition and illicit drug businesses into overdrive.

      Scottish Independence is the only exit available from the repeating myopia of London, only then can we tap into that hope and build something to be proud of.

  28. Bruce MacDougall says:

    Re Starmer and the EU. Does anyone believe that the EU would ever allow England to become a member again? I don’t think they would.

    • Bob Lamont says:

      Of course they would, eventually, but their days of getting preferential treatment are over.

  29. Alan Howard Baxter says:

    Good Morning All – O/T. Have I missed a turn? I don’t see anything from NMRN, – hope all is well with her. In the meantime, many thanks to Paul & the regular guys on here. My goodness, if we could bottle the passion, compassion, common sense, logic and decency expressed every day on this blog we would be Independent already. It’s coming. Keep the fire burning……..

  30. Bob Lamont says:

    Having seen various horror stories erupt over energy prices in the UQ, I thought it might be of interest to some what I’m paying on the far side of europe, you know, where we DO actually get Russian Gas rather than Norwegian gas with a fake accent from Tories.
    For clarity, I’m on the lowest tariffs available, VAT is charged at 19%, there are no daily charges only rates based on consumption

    State compensation (to smooth transition to the new rate) is defined for each month capped at levels I never reach anyway; Gas prices vary each month so the gas section gets a little bit complicated; for additional information I calculated the total bills excluding state interventions; All prices are GBP.

    Power per kWh, billing period January 2022 converted to GBP
    Full rate 14.2p, 16.9p inc VAT
    After government intervention (compensation) 9.7p, 11.5p inc VAT
    Total bill 21.36 inc VAT (29.22 had no interventions been mandated)

    Gas per kWh, billing period 9/12/21 – 8/1/22
    9/12/21-31/12/21
    Full rate 3.76p, 4.5p inc VAT
    After government intervention (compensation) 2.8p, 3.3p inc VAT
    1/1/22-8/1/22
    Full rate 3.98p, 4.74p inc VAT
    After government intervention (compensation) 2.9p, 3.4p inc VAT
    Gas conversion m3 to kWh 10.774
    Total bill 79.6 inc VAT (102.88 had no interventions been mandated)

  31. davetewart says:

    Fuel rates for me
    November
    Gas 3.6p a kWh
    Electricity
    18.87p a kWh

    January 2022
    Gas
    3.78p a kWh
    Electricity
    19.81p a kWh

    All inclusive of VAT

    • JoMax says:

      Those of us with no access to gas have been paying whopping rates for electricity for years. I had a look back at my electricity bill for February 2012, 10 years ago, and the normal day rate was already 14.65p per kWh and the ‘off peak’ overnight rate for storage heating etc, 7.61 per kWh. This month the equivalent rates are 21.27p per kWh and 15.39 per kWh. VAT and the standing charge are on top.

      Endlessly switching from one supplier to another, quite honestly made little or no difference and there were some suppliers who said they didn’t deal with the North of Scotland. Some consumers with Scottish Hydro could not switch anyway because of the night time set up with the Radio Teleswitch system which controlled the time the Total Heating/Total Control rate came on. As I mentioned in a previous thread that system will end next year. It’s all tied into the BBC’s Long Wave service, believe it or not, which is being discontinued. Don’t ask me how that works! We are being milked in the North of Scotland despite being surrounded by all sorts of resources which are mostly out of our control. And we have a climate which can, at times, be testing!

      It seems that gas consumers have been getting it easy for years. It’s not that many years ago since there were a series of huge hikes at which point I started to reduce my night heating dramatically. A switch to oil for me was not an option because the positioning of a tank would have been difficult and expensive to install. Same with solar panels. Just to remind everyone, too, that people, particularly the elderly, who have no internet for one reason or another cannot access comparison websites to make choices and that often goes unnoticed by people who think everyone is so technically ‘joined up’ these days that you can do anything.

  32. Capella says:

    The National compares the action of Westminster in the cost of living crisis with some European countries.
    Energy crisis: How are European countries tackling it?

    Many European governments have moved quickly to protect consumers from rising prices, while the UK Government has failed to act or even consider a windfall tax on oil and gas firms who returned record profits last year.

    https://archive.fo/zwaAe

  33. Capella says:

    Kevin McKenna realises that Labour are on a path to Palookaville in Scotland.
    Trying to shut down independence work shows Scottish Labour know their side is losing

    WHEN political opponents would cancel your right to reasonably promote your cause rather than engage honestly then you know you’re winning the argument. In recent months, some siren Unionist voices have resorted to desperate measures not merely to undermine the cause of Scottish independence but actively to thwart preparations for its implementation…
    Earlier this month, internal research by the Labour Party in Scotland confirmed what we all knew anyway: that a significant proportion of Labour supporters – more than 30% – either back independence or believe that a case has been made to hold a second referendum. It’s this, I believe, what has caused Murray and others to press the panic button.

    https://archive.fo/a3YZc

  34. jfngw says:

    Isn’t it about time we started asking governments around the world what their response to the threat by the UK that it will stop paying foreign nationals their accrued pension. After all there are reciprocal agreements with many countries regarding pension rights. Just imagine all those ex MEP’s no longer entitled to their EU pension.

    As the Westminster will almost certainly want to claim the status of being the continuing state then the pension payment responsibility will sit with them.

  35. Capella says:

    Guess what – the bankers are enjoying their biggest bonuses since 2008. Not everyone is starving then. From the Guardian

    ‘We’ve had a run on champagne:’ Biggest UK banker bonuses since financial crash

    This week British bankers will start collecting the biggest bonuses since before the 2008 global financial crisis as their employers fight an “increasingly intense war for talent”.
    As most Britons face the biggest squeeze on their incomes since at least 1990, already very highly paid bankers are celebrating “particularly obscene” bonuses in the City’s pubs and wine bars.
    “We have had quite the run on champagne – the poshest champagne we stock,” says James, a bartender at the New Moon on the streets of Leadenhall Market near the headquarters of many of the City of London’s banks. “They come here to celebrate when they get told their ‘number’ – the numbers seem to have been particularly obscene this year.”

    https://archive.fo/0U1ze

  36. Dr Jim says:

    The Labour party north and south of the border have truly morphed into a strange beast, on camera and in public they look and sound like a 1950s old radio or black and white telly until the cameras are turned off then they burst into full glorious colour 3D 20th Century Fox wide screen Tories taking credit for things in the past they never did because who can remember so they get away with saying it

    Labour use exactly the same tactics as Boris Johnson except they do it with meaningful looks and sad downturned eyes as though that makes it seem more important and lends more gravitas to whatever latest lie they’re punting, particularly to young people about the *good old days* when those young people weren’t even born, but hey it must be true look at their faces, Jeremy Corbyn did very well with that strategy

    Scotland is still paying the debt that Gordon Brown lumbered us with for schools and other buildings that fell apart years ago and we still owe £££thousands of pounds£££ paying for toilet seats that ended up in big Tams hoose because he was putting in a new lavvy for his missus, and she told her pal who told her pal so they all had to have a new lavvy as well, but it was OK because big Tams gaffer knew the guy in the council who could get Tam anything he needed for the hoose but he’s away to Cuba the noo on a wee holiday, Oops sorry (cooncil cultural exchange mission)

    I’m old enough, I was there, I know the Labour party and they haven’t changed one bit

    Except for the new wide screen technicolour 3D digital appearance the red tie is just a blue tie that’s had a dose of the Dylon

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