What’s it all about then?

A guest post by Samuel Miller

So what is this upcoming general election all about? Why are we having one at all?

Well if you’re a Tory politician, they’ll tell you it’s all about Brexit and a strong mandate to carry it through. Yeah, seeing a bit of a logic gap there myself.

Now to be absolutely clear on the Brexit vote, democracy is democracy and much as I disagree with the result of Brexit UK, it’s what the majority, (however slim), voted for. It’s been debated in both houses within Westminster parliament, (Commons and Lords), voted upon, passed and as we are all aware by this point, Article 50 has been triggered.

In short, IT’S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW! (Shouting for the folks at the back there)

Near as I can tell, the Conservative explanation for their snap GE simply doesn’t add up on the face of it. This is a done deal and Brexit is on its way. Given the nature of the negotiation stances of both the UK government and the EU even the nature of the Brexit isn’t up for much discussion. Under our current electoral system and Conservative majority in parliament, it’s not as if they need any greater mandate to finalize exit negotiations and carry forward a programme of government either.

Unless…  unless they themselves believe the ramifications of their decades long EU narrative, their massively damaging leadership struggle and their penchant for the politics of blame and scapegoating are going to have catastrophic consequences for the populations of the UK and the UK state far beyond their worst nightmare. Unless the Conservative government have been less than honest with the UK’s electorate?

No. No I don’t think it’s about Brexit. It may, however, be about what lies beyond Brexit.

Now if you were a cynical sod, then you’d perhaps suspect a sitting government, fearing the worst, would need a massively expanded majority and extended tenure in office. They’d absolutely need the ability to enact drastic emergency legislation with a minimum of parliamentary debate or scrutiny. Makes pushing through a Great Repeal Bill, a Bill of British rights and such so much easier, yes? Last but by no means least, they’d need to put these measures in place before the clock ticks down on exit from the EU and Brexit impact becomes both unavoidable and undeniable. If you were a cynical sod.

Just a feelin’ like, but at this point you’re left with the impression that the more extreme Brexiteers in government don’t appear to have any idea of the economic boorach that’s about to break over them or the population. Would they even care if they did? Mind you, whatever happens, there’s always some other demographic to blame and some awfy helpful chums in the media apparently.

For people to try to grasp what the impact may be on a daily and personal level, a couple of things to consider. Take the weekly shop as an example. How much fresh produce and lifestyle goods comes from the continent? The fresh fruit and veg you buy, meat, pastas, sweets and choccies, beauty care products, shaving foams, toothpastes and a whole host of pretty familiar named brands folks pick up on a week in, week out basis. With tariffs, if we still trade at all with the EU, these may rise in cost as much as 10-20% across the board. ALL onto your weekly shopping bill. Just for starters mind.

In my opinion, I don’t think people have been in any way prepared for the impact on continental relations, or what that means for them on an ‘in your living room’ level. The shear breadth of how this is going to affect the lives of every person living in the UK on the economic, societal and political levels is literally beyond calculation at this point.

Import/Export administration costs at every port of exit/entry, the creation of whole new rafts of customs procedures and administrative infrastructure. Who do they think will pay for all this? Who do they think it will affect most? Airports alone may become the stuff of nightmare as both goods and people bottleneck.

Holidays! Back to the good old days of visa applications for every single overseas destination. No more nipping across to France, Holland or… SPAIN for mad weekends on a citybreak whim.

Come to think of it… Spain might be a little problematic this year (cough).

Then we get to it, don’t we? Wider international relations and profile. Just how will UK nationals travelling abroad be viewed and received on the continent? You think Joe Public on the continent doesn’t feel? Doesn’t take it personally? Doesn’t have a hurt national pride of their own? It’s one thing to reject a system of government at odds with your democracy and need to express your body politic, quite another to reject a multi national trade and peace oriented union seemingly on the basis of… FOREIGNERS!

Because whether people like it or not. Whether they rationalized otherwise or not. That is exactly the predominant message sent out by the campaign which resulted in 52% of the UK who voted for a blind, hard Brexit. A UK wide ballot whose leave campaign detail couldn’t fill an A4 sheet of paper… (single sided) and widely recognized as one of the most appalling and negative campaigns in the UK’s post war political history.

Anyone searching for evidence of this need only look at the rise in hate crime over the past year. They need only listen to any statement by Mr Davis on Brexit deals, Ms May on ‘unity’ or Bojo on diplomacy. Voting to leave the EU was one thing. Agree with it or don’t as the reader will. Voting to leave on the back of that particular campaign will leave an image with our near neighbours that every nation of the UK will have to live with for a long time to come. Or maybe, in one particular case, not? That case is yet to be decided and lessons can be learned by the Scottish government, the YES movement and the wider electorate with a little patience and an open mind.

Those very few issues alone merely scrape the surface on the aftermath of Brexit.

Given the political uphevals initiated by Westminster politics over the past couple of years, this most recent twist is shaping up to be an omnishambles of biblical proportions. In my opinion its effects WILL be far reaching and ongoing. I’d also imagine it would leave a nasty mark on UK international relations for many, many years to come.  On the bright side though, at least some folk got EXACTLY what they voted for, right? I mean, they did realise, didn’t they?

Personally (and I am a fairly cynical sod), I’d say this general election is ALL about the Tories consolidating a power base and grip of England’s electorate for the upcoming Brexit aftermath. Basic arithmetic determines they really don’t require the vote, or permissions, of the rest of the UK’s populations (shocking, but true). It’s about removing their nearest opposition in parliament as a viable alternative for the foreseeable future and finally it’s about giving cabinet and PM the powers to enact any emergency legislation they feel necessary without parliamentary oversight.

Mind you, the difference between what a Conservative government feels is a necessary action and what you or I may feel?

Well that could probably fill volumes.

 

65 comments on “What’s it all about then?

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  2. Therapymum says:

    Excellent post Sam. The calling of the GE made no sense, particularly as Ms May’s small majority had not prevented her in any way from presenting her Article 50 letter to the EU. All it did was add yet more uncertainty to an already fraught situation.

    What struck the chord with me was when she described Westminster as being divided and the country coming together. Wishful thinking? However, she went on to add that the opposition would prevent her from moving ahead with Brexit negotiations and would oppose each step on the way, presenting that opposition as a bad thing. So she wants to get rid of any/all opposition so that she can negotiate with the EU. What about all the other policy areas like welfare, NHS, economy, education, immigration? I thought opposition parties were meant to oppose? Is that not the whole ethos of scrutiny in U.K. politics? So that when agreement is reached, it is in the best interests of all?

    Getting rid of the opposition means she has a blank cheque to do whatever she wants and I fear that’s exactly what she will do, most likely in secret, or as secret as she can make it. I’m sure that she will sell all the devolved nations down the river, with probably particular glee over Scotland. WTO regulations would be horrendous, impacting on the poorest yet again and probably decimating our industries into the bargain. It’s a mess, and all the pervasive anti-SNP nonsense isn’t helping in creating a positive campaign for Independence. I can dream of a hung parliament, but I fear it’s only a dream.

    I just had my husband pointing out a survey carried out by Loughborough University on the political media profiles after week 1 of the election campaign. Ms May obviously 1, Ms Sturgeon 8, Ms Davidson 16. But sitting there in 4th place with over 4% is ….. Philip May!!

  3. tintochiel says:

    “Personally (and I am a fairly cynical sod), I’d say this general election is ALL about the Tories consolidating a power base and grip of England’s electorate for the upcoming Brexit aftermath. Basic arithmetic determines they really don’t require the vote, or permissions, of the rest of the UK’s populations (shocking, but true). It’s about removing their nearest opposition in parliament as a viable alternative for the foreseeable future and finally it’s about giving cabinet and PM the powers to enact any emergency legislation they feel necessary without parliamentary oversight.”

    Exactly this, Macart.

    And then remove Holyrood from the equation, to shut up the pesky Jocks, all the while chanting, “Resistance is futile.”

    This potential future is terrifying and quite possible with an utterly compliant, spook-controlled MSM.

    May I repeat: a bright future in an independent, progressive Scotland or Eternal Tory Night?

    Your choice, peeps. Get it wrong and you might not have a choice again.

    • Marconatrix says:

      It seems to me that May has stepped out of what passes for normality in UK politics. What she’s planning seems to be nothing short of A Very British Coup, albeit in slow motion. The only question is whether the “It Can Never Happen Here” silent majority will wake up in time.

  4. Robert Kerr says:

    Brutal Sam ! Brutal!

    And very likely.

  5. Excellent as ever Sam. My 93yr old Dad joined the forerunner to the SNP during University in Glasgow,in the 50’s. He told me, in response to my fears over the outcome of Tory control and the relentless media Anti SNP rhetoric, ‘that Independence will never die, it may waver as in the past but it will go on’. Takes the sting out of whatever happens in 3wks time. Saor Alba GU Brath!

    • Ken mcIntosh says:

      Nice comment, but it would be so much nicer if our 93 year old Dad with his lifelong SNP activist efforts could still be around when Scotland secures its rightful place in the world. Saor Alba.

  6. Ealasaid says:

    Well said Sam! And it cannot be said often enough. TM is trying to do away with all effective opposition so that she can do what she likes with the people and the future of the UK. But I doubt even she realises what the consequences of her actions in Europe will be. She wants to finish what Maggie Thatcher started in terms of the Establishment’s absolute power over the people of the UK.

    What Maggie Thatcher also started was the people of Scotland’s distrust and even hatred of the UK and its machinations. As it looks now, TM could very well finish what Maggie Thatcher started. That would be the disintegration of the UK, so long as the majority of the people waken up to the future the Tories are bringing.

    Scotland is about 50% there already. A good dose of Tory government should push us all the way.

    • AnnieM says:

      I think that TM knows fine well what the consequences of her actions in Europe will be. She may be a lot of things but she’s not stupid! The really scary thing is that she doesn’t care.

  7. Gavin C Barrie says:

    May’s cold reference to “saboteurs and separatists” is surely warning enough of an impending authoritarian tory reign?

  8. orri says:

    I think there’s actually some truth to needing a larger mandate and an implied endorsement from Conservative voters if not the party membership.

    May’s election has all the hallmarks of a stitch up. It was never put to the party as a whole. As a Remainer she might have been presumed more willing to go down a softer Brexit by the MPs themselves.

    That last point is less certain if she’d only chosen Remain because, in her opinion, the deal we already had was better than paying for EFTA membership and the only other option was full withdrawal.

    However the point is that if they pull this off she may very well have a majority more inclined towards hard, fast, dirty Brexit. Collapsing the economy and effectively pushing the UK in to default might be seen in some areas as a master stroke. Allowing emergency measures that they’ll claim were imposed by the IMF whilst blaming the EU for intransigence.

    Or there might actually be a shift in power towards a more EU friendly majority within the Conservative ranks.

    The real risk they face and the desperate gamble is that they really need some with of Conservative support in Scotland to counter the propaganda that the SNP are by nature an anti-English party. Portraying Scotland as a nation of scroungers and the downturn in oil revenues both give rise to a groundswell in England that but in to the idea that keeping Scotland is against their financial interests.

    It’d be hard to turn that around without admitting they were lying for attempted political advantage. All that would leave is to play on terrorist threats, immigration/border control and strategic necessity. Fail to do that and it’d be hard to prevent support for a second referendum in Westminster forcing whichever new government to agree a binding referendum sooner rather than later.

    • David says:

      I would say she needs a larger majority rather than a larger mandate. With such a slim majority it would only take either a few remainer Tories or a few hardline Brexiters for her to lose a vote in parliament. Larger majority lessons that risk.

      I think there are also secondary benefits for them in that returning a few Tory MPs in Scotland will give them the ammo they want to say their is no need for an independence vote.

      I suspect the SNP vote will hold up, maybe even go up slightly. But due to Labour supporting unionists coalescing around the Tories they will still lose some seats.

  9. Andy in Germany says:

    Most of my colleagues and friends here simply think the UK is being stupid and insular. Again. They don’t understand why the electorate would decide to leave a rather advantageous position within Europe to go it alone.

    I’ve not had any hostility personally though, just concern from my German colleagues for the future of the UK, and hope that Scotland/NI will get out while they can.

    I think the herd Berxiters probobaly do know how bad things will be, which is why they are cynically making ridiculous demands of the EU: when the EU quite reasonably refuses, they go back to the media screaming about those nasty furriners attacking poor little England. They’re setting the scene so that later when the consquences come out, they’ll just blame the EU again…

  10. Dave Hansell says:

    The practical impact of the approach being taken by May – applying the Henry VIII clause to the Great Repeal Bill (see here:

    http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2016/11/30/rights-for-the-chop-how-a-henry-viii-clause-in-the-great-repeal-bill-will-undermine-democracy/

    – suggests May and the Conservatives are merely the public face of a British Establishment intent on reintroducing a feudal society into these islands.

    Such a clause will give the Executive, on behalf of that small clique of an Establishment, the same powers as King Henry gave himself under the 1539 Statute of Proclamations enabling the Executive to enact Secondary legislation with no need for primary legislation and to enact, amend or repeal primary legislation with no Parliamentary scrutiny or input. Effectively giving the Executive the same power and control which existed in feudal social relations as The Divine Rights of Kings.

    Forget about this smokescreen bollocks about going back to the 1970’s as, with the obvious mission creep which will surely occur, we are more likely headed back even further in time to at least the 15th century if not earlier.

    We have already seen the Tory polling agency Yougov flying a kite to test support for feudalism with the survey question “What this country needs is a strong leader which does not have to bother with Parliament or elections.”

    A fresh mandate for those, including those voters in Scotland as well as England, Wales and NI, who are wetting their pants to go down this road will present everyone on the other side of that divide, whatever notional political party they tend to support, with a very stark choice. Because under those circumstances there is no way this section of the populace and their political front organisations in Government are simply going to let Scotland or anyone else anywhere else in these islands take a different route.

    The political, constitutional and diplomatic route will by necessity have to be route one. However, when, rather if, that meets the inevitable intransigence the form that intransigence will take will present civic nationalists in Scotland and the democratically ( amongst other things) dispossessed in the rest of these islands with the stark option of either folding straight away or pushing back in the same or similar ways.

    That will require a great deal of imagination. In the light of a specific event in the past 24 hours some of the material buried away in this lengthy article may well become the norm rather than the exception.

    https://www.edge.org/conversation/ross_anderson-the-threat

    • ockletycockletywitch says:

      I used the words “mission creep” myself in another thread this morning – on this self-same subject. Anyone who doesn’t foresee this as a probability is either unbelievably naive or just plain stupid!

      • Saor Alba says:

        Oh, there are plenty of stupid people about ocklety as well as those with hatred of the other in their hearts.

    • hettyforindy says:

      Wow, just read some of that article, a bit techy, but not all. 6 paragraphs from the end, the writer actually talks about propaganda, sighting the ‘pro-nationalists’ in the 2014 referendum as abusive and violent online against those wanting to stay in the ‘UK’.

      Absolutely shocking and totally twisted given the abuse from the unionists in the run up to the Scottish referendum and the outright abuse even now, for eg, from a Tory MP against a 16 year old schoolgirl, telling her to ‘f**k off back to Scotland!’

      I would not trust what this guy says at all, given his supposed knowledge of the internet in great depth! Very disappointing.

      • Dave Hansell says:

        Fair point hetty. My point is that notwithstanding that piece of nonsense and how I feel about it there are other points and observations within that article which are valid and useful.

        The section from 24 paragraphs down to 20 from the end are pertinent on a number of levels here. In relation to the subject of the big headlines over the past two days since Friday; the use of asymetrical push back/resistance; and the continued use of current big bang military hardware which this makes largely obsolete.

  11. ockletycockletywitch says:

    Priceless piece, Mr Miller. Would that there were a few more “cynical sods” like you and me!

  12. Weechid says:

    I heard that it was all about Mrs May getting a majority of pro MAY MPs as there is a faction within the party dictating how things should be done and she wants more on her side to overpower them. In other words yet another internal Tory party squabble. Not for the benefit of the country but for her own career.

  13. Andy Anderson says:

    Well done Sam. You have articulated my own thoughts bettet that I could.
    A very worrying forecast. I only hope enough of us understand this to vote YES.

  14. Deelsdogs says:

    Great post.
    And I’m going to say Samuel rather than Sam. Had a lovely cat called Samuel.

    Prior to reading, the very same thoughts, issues, angst, has been swillin aboot ma heid for sometime.
    Cynical – me three…all of a sudden after the FM announces Indy2, ‘random terrorist strikes’ kick off. I am sure there will be more with the ringing of the ‘Great British security intelligence…’ sorry if this kicks folks, but whatever these ‘random strikes’ are about, humble passers by get killed, maimed, shocked beyond thinking. Life for them and their families, ceases.
    There are sinister ‘legalised’ orders out there – we all know this – it’s just nobody wants to say.
    I am.
    Think about it…

    They don’t care.
    We do.

  15. gus1940 says:

    I’ve never been a fan of The Monarchy but if it hadn’t existed Thatcher would have turned into perhaps not another Hitler but certainly her pal Pinochet and I have the same feeling about May.

    • ockletycockletywitch says:

      As do I, gus1940. She is, if possible, even scarier than the Thatcher woman was, not having Thatcher’s ability to pretend that she had softer, more womanly side!

    • JGedd says:

      Do you remember Thatcher using the royal ” we ” when she announced, ” We are a grandmother ” ?

      Anyway, I don’t think that having a monarchy would save us from fascism.. We would have “genteel” fascism with the imprimatur of royal complaisance. Many people would not even consider it fascism.

    • Andy Anderson says:

      Hello Gus.

      I wish I had your faith in the monarchy. Cannot see how they can stop a fanatic in any party.

  16. hettyforindy says:

    On my own more cynical days, I suspect that this tory general election, is at least in part, a potential means to stop another independence referendum, and even dismantle the Scottish parliament. They will be hoping that the SNP lose some seats, but even if they don’t and the tories gain seats via their followers in england, once out of the EU, they will do exactly what they want.

    The idea of a ‘stronger’ tory party is bloody terrifying, especially where Scotland is concerned, but for all of the people in the rUK, who want to stay in the EU. Scary stuff indeed.

  17. AnnieM says:

    James Heappey, Tory candidate for Wells, Somerset, when told by a schoolgirl that she would vote for Scottish independence, replied, “Why don’t you f*ck off back to Scotland”.

    The more desperate and obnoxious the Unionists become about Indyref2, the more they are proving that they are scared stiff of losing Scotland which they desperately NEED in their precious union!

    • Saor Alba says:

      The schoolgirl is a far more worthwhile person than the obnoxious Heappey. More intelligent as well.

      • ockletycockletywitch says:

        Absolutely – although to be fair, it’s not hard to be smarter than the average Tory MP! For all their expensive, private educations they are not sufficiently articulate to answer a schoolgirl’s question except with an obscenity. It just goes to prove that not only can you not buy class, but you can’t buy brains either!

        • AnnieM says:

          Apart from anything else, why would anyone with an ounce of decency consider that appropriate language to use in a school!

          • ockletycockletywitch says:

            I don’t think you can use the words “Tory MP” and “ounce of decency” in the same sentence … I think it’s what they call a contradiction in terms!

  18. Sam, you are not alone is musing, ‘What’s it all about, Alfie?’
    There is no political expediency for May to go to the country. She has a majority, Article 50 sailed through, Brexit is up and stumbling, Jeremy Corbyn even sang ‘Jerusalem’ at the Comrades’ Bash: England’s green and pleasant land, indeed.
    May appears to believe that ‘the country’ is behind her, but Westminster is not.

    You are correct to fear the worst, Sam.

    Imagine if 400 or so Blue Tory MPs are returned Down There, and then contemplate the scorched earth destruction and havoc which they will visit upon Scotland if we are daft enough to do nothing, as ‘Brainless’ (more later) Ruth Davidson and her minions, Dugdale and Rennie, carry out their Masters’ bidding.
    The Stronger Together Multi Coloured Tory Swap Shop of Hangers-On were all Remainers; but not any more.

    The only skins that they are interested in saving are their own. They are survivors, first, and last.

    If Scotland is dragged out of the EU we will be at the mercy of an English Parliament, which will strip Scotland back to colony status during the five year term of May’s Parliament.
    They will be merciless, mark my words.
    Brexit will crush us, if we let it happen.
    Andew Marr interviewed NS today. Brian Taylor presumably e-mailed the questions to Marr.
    It’s not really a GE, is it Andrew?
    Let’ not talk about UK issues, let’s hammer the old education failure EssEnnPee Bad on your 10 year watch pish.
    Andrew Marr putting the Leader of the 3rd largest group in WM in her place. We Scots don’t count. We don’t matter. We will do as we are told. Back in your box, Nicola.

    The Herald was at it as well.

    Let’s not talk about the GE, let’s not debate the ‘wee things’ like reserved powers and Brexit.
    How about filling columns with air headed rubbish instead.

    We can only assume that Paul Hutcheon of the Herald is experiencing a mid- life ‘man crush’ crisis. How else do we explain his quite embarrassing piece of candy floss drivel in praise of that political failure, Adam Tomkins, in the Herald?
    Bart Simpson’s. ‘Hetero, but curious.’ Comes to mind.

    Presumably Scoop Hutcheon paid for Professor WATP Two Jobs Adam Tomkins’ repast in the Holyrood muncherie, proving in a rubbing-it-all-in- our-faces sort of way that, as far as the Tories are concerned, there is such a thing as a free lunch; or in the case of this quite outrageous article, a free ride.

    Tomkins stood in my constituency and was unequivocally rejected by us, the people. I mean he was whupped, humiliated, told , in David Cameron’s Eton brashness, to ‘eff off.’
    He got in on the Tory List of wealthy businessmen, and chinless young Dim But Nice Tory Boys, a hand picked bunch of carpetbaggers and chancers put up by Scotland’s sub-Branch of the London Establishment.

    But that doesn’t stop Scoop Hutch musing that if the sectarian bigot hadn’t met Ruth Davidson and, overcome by the dazzling light of her Beatific presence, was transformed into an instant bigot, IDS’ henchman in killing off the Poor, and all ‘round fascist Tory Boy.

    Hutch reports that if Margaret Curran hadn’t been such a gruntfuttock, Professor WATP Two Jobs Adam Tomkins might still be a ‘Left Wing Firebrand Republican’, so it’s all Wee Mags’ fault, so it is. According to Hutch, Tomkins might have been on the Red Tory side at Holyrood otherwise.

    Scoop ventures that AT would have been the next Red Tory Branch Manager when Kezia disappears up her own self delusion.

    As it is, our intrepid scribe showers even more praise on AT.

    He is apparently Ruth Davidson’s Brain.

    It would explain a lot.

    At last we have an explanation why Davidson, wearing her tiresome chubby cheeky grin, poses on a disability scooter, while she and Tomkins supported 50,000 PIP disabled folk having their only means of mobility taken away from them by WM because JK Rowling needs another 5% tax break; otherwise Scotland would not be a place where migrants would want to live. She might leave!

    The mass slaughter of the disabled innocents continues. 1000 disabled citizens per week are having their mobility vehicles taken away by, well ultimately, Adam Tomkins, the erstwhile ‘Left Wing Firebrand Republican.’

    Perhaps Brainless Ruth can be excused for sharing a platform and photies with Fascist councillors, bigoted right wing cyber terrorists who preach ‘taking out’ the FM, and urge some right wing nut job to blow up Holyrood, or cheerily pose with a low life who brags about the size of his dick on the Net.

    Adam, please, give Ruth her brain back.

    “Tomkins doesn’t sound like a hard liner on the overall tax credit policy.”
    Really, Mr Hutcheon? Really?

    He’s probably not a hard liner on Pensioners now having to pay the Bedroom Tax.
    He’s probably a bit squidgy about recently bereaved widows with young families having their Widows’ allowances scrapped by those nasty Tories in London.
    Perhaps secretly he tut tuts when 11,000 18-21 year olds were instantly evicted in April because those ‘other’ Tories have scrapped their Housing Benefit?

    I am sure that it is a source of profound personal regret that 260,000 Scots children live below the poverty line because those ‘other’ Nasty Party Tories cut £29 billion (aided and abetted by Willie Rennie) in tax credits, disability benefits, pensions, and in-work tax credits.
    I am sure that he reached for the Rennies to mitigate the discomfort as excess acid built up in his duodenum at the thought of disabled Jobseekers losing £30 a week Employment Support Allowance because of May’s English HO’s ‘party for the many not the few’ relentless and immoral attack on our civic society.

    I am sure that as an ex Firebrand Leftie he must get the odd twinge of conscience when we care more about increasing the wealth of the already filthy rich, while 500,000 of fellow Scots citizens are living in Tory engineered poverty.
    As a man of larnin’ he must occasionally shudder when Brainless Ruth thumps the tub about the EssEnnPee’s 10 year failure to close the attainment gap.
    Starving children surely have more incentive to learn.
    Come on young serfs! Get the adding up and letter writing skills and you too can apply for a zero hours, no employment rights low wage ephemeral jobs washing cars, or stacking shelves in Tescos.

    I’m sure that the good Prof endorses the policy to ‘incentivise’ the Great Unwashed Proles into taking any old slave job or else.
    Work or starve, and you can forget all those EU Employment and Citizens’ Rights nonsense.
    From Remain to Hard Brexiteer?
    Professor Tomkins is not only a whizz kid at the Law, he has also mastered the secrets of the Space and Time continuum. He can apparently be in two places at once. Perhaps Scoop should have asked him about that.

    While he is munchin’ lunchin’ with Hutch in Holyrood, he is simultaneously delivering lectures at Glasgow Uni.
    Some man to be all the one man, if you ask me.
    Perhaps he is like Lionel Messi, and one or other of the two, Professor, or Firebrand Tory MSP, is merely an uncanny lookalike?
    What an incredible piece of nonsense Paul H.
    I’ve checked. It is 2017, Scotland, not 1933, Germany.

    We are to be treated to a ‘Leaders’ debate by BBC. No Mundell, or Carmichael, or Murray.
    We are being served up second class fare in the form of Davidson Dugdale and the Bus Driver, shouting EssEnnPee Bad at NS for an hour.
    No talk of Trident, Tory Austerity, or bombing Arab states.

    Alarmingly for the Blue Tories, Corbyn’s leaked manifesto is proving popular with the voters.
    Publicly owned Railways, no tuition fees, free prescriptions, a publicly owned NHS, an end to austerity: who sent Jeremy a copy of the SNP manifesto?

    What if May’s gamble doesn’t pay off, and the country votes for ‘neither of the above?’
    A Coalition of Chaos of the Red and Yellow Tories, the Greens and that Bad EssEnnPee lot?

    Mischief, thy name is Collatin.

    • ockletycockletywitch says:

      Bravo, Mr Collatin! You thump a pretty nifty tub yoursel’. With your permission, I would like to copy your comment into my PC’s innards so as to be able to quote from it (anonymously) while plootering aboot in the sewer that is the Times Online comment threads, if necessary. I do my humble best in there but you put things so much better than I can. However, if you would rather I didn’t use your words thus I will completely understand. Thanks again for a brilliant adjunct to Samuel Miller’s original post.

    • Dave Hansell says:

      “, which will strip Scotland back to colony status during the five year term of May’s Parliament.”

      That is one massive leap of faith you are taking there Jack. If you are running a book on it I ‘d certainly like to put a wad on that term being a lot longer than five years given they have already flown that kite to test the well of support for doing away with Parliament and elections via that Yougov poll the other week.

      • Dave if 400 plus Tories are returned, I doubt that May and Co will give a tuppenny damn about outraging Scots citizens.
        Sept 19th 2014, 07.00 am, Cameron announces EVEL to the gathered MSM,
        They don’t give a damn.
        I’ll take £5 worth if you are running a book.

    • jk.scobie says:

      well said jack

  19. Robert Harrison says:

    Like the leave vote its all about power and control Westminster still living in the empire years thats personafied though the conservative party

  20. Andy Anderson says:

    Having read Sam’s script a second time and also the following comments it has left me a bit worried. Worried for Scotland.

    Life is not black and white, we can only react in a grey world of political change. I only hope that as the next 18 months pass at least another 10% of us will move convincingly to Yes. The new Westmonster government may not be as grim as indicated above but we need to watch and talk the message to all.

    I am convinced some press will move to help because of the changes ahead. The Sun, Record and Guardian are already giving balanced and or supportive comment.

    • Andy, it is a black and white issue.
      On the First of April 2019, for Scotland, “The lamps are going out all over Europe, we shall not see them lit again in our life-time.”
      British Foreign Secretary Sir Edward Grey’s prophetic remarks to a friend on the eve of Britain’s entry into the First World War.

      If we are mad enough to let Kezia Ruth and Willie lead the Brexit charge Up Here, and stand idly by while England drags us out of Europe, signs will be erected all over Europe.

      Entschëllegt, Schottland, ass Holland fir Iech gespaart.
      Entschëllegt, Schottland, ass Luxemburg fir Iech gespaart.
      Désolé, l’Ecosse, la France est fermée à vous.
      Spiacenti, Scozia, l’Italia è chiusa per te.
      Sorry, Schottland, Deutschland ist für Sie geschlossen.
      Lo sentimos, Escocia, España está cerrado para usted.
      Tá brón orainn, dúnta Scotland, Irelandis a thabhairt duit.

      Over my dead body.

      I admire your faith on the prospect of US/London owned media supporting Scottish Independence. IMHO we are the US ‘unsinkable battleship.’ Unthinkable that Murdoch and Co., would back Self Determination.

      • Andy Anderson says:

        Yes it is a black and white issue, YES or NO for independence. YES does it for me and it has since 2013.

        However most people live in the ‘grey political world’ as they are not up to date with the knowledge they need to make a balanced decision.

        I know that the MSM are nearly 99% against us but some actually are changing. I think that this will improve further as the bad economic news becomes more prominent and when people start to hurt further. The media will then see an Indpedenant Scotland as the best option of us up here. In 2014 the MSM was 100% against us. It is still near 100%, but what I am saying is that some papers have started to report differently, sometimes.

        I like your posts Jack.

        • Journalists need to put food on the table, Andy, just like the rest of us.
          In the good old days, they wrote articles that were designed to sell ‘papers.
          The more readers, the more advertising revenue, everybody’s happy.
          There have been some tremendous strings even in recent times. The MPs’ Expenses Scandal for one. No storm in a duck pond, that one.
          In 2015 we returned 56 out of 59 Pro Independence MPs to WM. That’s 95%, give or take.
          We retained one of each of the Unionist brands, so we could remind ourselves of what we were fighting.
          Now imagine if May and Co., attract 95% in June’s GE. That’s 617 MP’s. I know, I’m being ridiculous, but bear with me.
          Imagine the headlines. The result would reverberate throughout the civilised world, and even filter through to Bearsden.
          We’d never hear the end of it.
          If the Seer of Surbiton prophesied that Empress May would be usurped by a female opponent, the Tories could rush through the Slaughter of the First Born Female Child Act unopposed.
          Or bring back hanging, outlaw same sex marriage, homosexuality, and the SNP.
          Yet for two years our MSM have carried on as before. The GE2015 didn’t happen.
          Unionist politicians and pundits are never off our TV screens; Paul Hutcheon’s piece on Prof WATP Two Jobs in the Herald serves as evidence that even if it means losing circulation, and revenue, the Dead Tree Scrolls are under instruction. No matter what it costs, including the very survival of the ‘paper, and the hacks’ own jobs, the Independence movement must be stopped.
          Similarly, the BBC, and increasingly STV, are nakedly biased these days.
          They don’t give a toss about public opinion, or the fact that only a few thousand are watching or listening to their diurnal Unionist dirge.
          The London Establishment will cover the costs.
          On this excellent blog, Annie observes that we are ‘preaching to the converted’, the corollary of which, I assume, is ‘why bother?’
          For evil to triumph good people need do nothing.
          I feel that I am doing ‘something’, no matter how little.
          I sincerely hope that you are right, Andy, and that reporting becomes more balanced in the run up to the GE, but I ha’e ma doots.
          Lovely blethering nevertheless.

  21. AnnieM says:

    I hope you are correct about some of the media becoming more balanced because the posts on here and similar blogs, although excellent and absolutely spot on, are preaching to the converted.

    • Annie,

      “Which of you men, if you had one hundred sheep, and lost one of them, wouldn’t leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one that was lost, until he found it? When he has found it, he carries it on his shoulders, rejoicing. When he comes home, he calls together his friends, his family and his neighbors, saying to them, ‘Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!’ I tell you that even so there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents, than over ninety-nine righteous people who need no repentance.”
      — Luke 15:3-7,

      If our humble contributions converts just one ‘sinner’, then we shall rejoice.

      • Andy Anderson says:

        It has taken me two years to convert three people.

        Blogs like this do convert people I am sure, however most people I know will not even look at them, no interest at all with a fear of independence. I believe the electronic media is great but many of us, especially those my age (67) use the TV and the papers as their only information source. To get high levels of support at the next indyref the MSM, at least some of it is important.

        I do however we can win without it.

        • jk.scobie says:

          No, that is exactly what is wrong with the Scottish people, for so long they have been fed all the crap from the media , and they believe it, what is needed is for the SNP to present the true facts from these parties in a leaflet and let the people whom do not read the internet , then let them then decide who is hiding behind two faces

          • jk.scobie says:

            On another note, in the recent elections, who went on more about independence more ? Rooths election leaflet was all about stop going on about independence, no polices just about stopping indepwndence

      • Brian Fleming says:

        And then he’d slaughter the found sheep so they can feast in celebration. 🙂

      • AnnieM says:

        I agree Jack, but are the ‘sinners’ reading this blog? I know that I don’t read much anti-independence stuff.

        • Annie, there are still quite a few lost souls wandering in the desert. Hopefully some will stop at the WGD oasis for a sip of the clear crystal waters.
          If we aim for the moon and miss, at least we will be among the stars.

        • ockletycockletywitch says:

          I can’t say that I blame you for that. I spend a couple of hours a day in the Times OnLine comment threads trying to preach the cause. It is damned uphill work and the personal abuse and invective which comes my way is definitely NOT for the fainthearted. I come here to “refresh my spirit” … and it never fails.

  22. Robert Graham says:

    The laughable idea of a Tory government protecting workers rights would be funny if it wasn’t so perverse, I believe people in England voting for this lot need sectioned, and tested for obviously swallowing a stupid pill .
    Despite all the warnings over the continued use of the long outdated windows XP operating system, cost cutting has cause and effect, today we will see the Tory blame game in full flow , it wasn’t our cuts that helped hackers do their job, it was this inefficient health service that caused it, so we need the private sector to intervene for patients protection, Aye f/n right, trust a Tory I wouldn’t piss on them .

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