We’re here, we’re queer, we’re voting yes

Stu Campbell, who runs the Wings Over Scotland website, has recently come under sustained abuse by Unionists. He’s been accused of just about everything with the possible exception of being personally responsible for the killing fields of Cambodia – although it’s probably only a matter of time before a swivel eyed No supporter on Twitter makes the claim that Wings Over Scotland is published from Phnom Phen.

A persistent claim is that Wings Over Scotland is homophobic, misogynistic and transphobic. It’s a shameless attempt to deter ordinary Scots from engaging with the arguments and information published on the site. I have never read any articles on Wings Over Scotland that I have considered homophobic. Wings Over Scotland and the other pro independence news sites provide information in a clear and straightforward manner which is accessible to all and inclusive of all.

Just today Stu received another tweet from a Unionist describing him as a “homophobic c**t”. Stu Campbell may be many things, but he’s not homophobic. I’ve had a number of personal contacts with him, and I know from personal experience that he has demonstrated nothing but respect for my partner and me as gay men, and for our status as a married couple. The same experience has been repeated countless times with all the many and diverse people I’ve been privileged to meet and get to know as a part of this remarkable mass movement. Acceptance and love. The love of Scotland is a many gendered thing.

Stu is not versed in the arcane language of the organised LGBT movement, but there is no reason he should be. Lack of awareness is not abuse. Accusing an individual of abuse in attempt to deflect from unrelated arguments – that’s abuse. And worse, it’s abuse which diminishes and damages the struggle against real homophobia and real social exclusion. Those who make such accusations should hold their heads in shame.

Sorry readers, but this is not going to be a happy post. It’s an angry one. It’s the height of hypocrisy for the No campaign to make accusations of homophobia. Scotland is a nation. It is a modern European nation like any other. It contains a minority who have homophobic attitudes. Those who possess such attitudes are represented on both sides of the independence debate – although they are without a shadow of doubt louder and more prominent on the No side. Yet these No campaigners are the people who’d have us believe that the traditional Scottish sentiment “A man’s a man for aw that” is a statement in support of transphobia and 19th century gender roles and who are trying to make us fear than an independent Scotland would be less progressive than Russia in its treatment of its lesbian and gay minority. That’s abuse. That’s cheapening the struggle I’ve spent my adult life involved in.

Certainly there are homophobes amongst Yes campaigners, but homophobia is more of a problem for the No campaign. People who are on the same side of an independence debate as the Orange Order, UKIP, the Tories, the fascists of Britain First, and the Daily Fucking Mail have no business taking the gay rights moral high ground with anyone. Remember that Labour hacks, next time you pen an article for that right wing rag or take to Twitter decrying the abuse you claim to suffer.

Labour’s LGBT claque does not speak for me, it does not speak for the majority of lesbian, gay, bisexual or transsexual people in this country. They speak for their own ghettoised style of politics. Real Scottish lesbian and gay people are here, we’re queer, and we’re Scottish independence supporters too. We’re not going to live in a ghetto in an independent Scotland. We’re going to be mainstream, out in the open, and participating fully.

I’m a late middle aged man who’s recently made the shocking realisation that I’m eligible for a Saga holiday offer. I made the realisation that I was gay a long time before, during the 1970s. I came out in the early 1980s when the Aids crisis was in full blown media hysteria and newspapers regularly engaged in witchhunts against gay people, when people were still sacked from their jobs for being a queer. We were public enemy number 1. Coming out, I got beaten up for my pains, I was estranged from certain family members for many years. I was no longer welcome in the home I was born in.

I’ve experienced homophobia – real homophobia and not the homophobia of the trivial Twitter complaint variety “Oooooh s/he’s said something nasty about me.” I didn’t bother myself when people called me a poof or a pervert, I had far more serious abuse to deal with – the abuse which prevented lesbians and gay men living the life we had a right to live. The abuse that left real bruises, not metaphorical ones.

I was never a prominent campaigner. I didn’t join political pressure groups and sit on committees or seek positions of influence. But I was there. Not mincing but marching. Not complaining about abuse in the pages of the Daily Mail, but doing something about it. I was there in Parliament Square on the evening of 21 February 1994 when the Westminster Parliament rejected proposals to equalise the age of consent for gay men with that of everyone else. I was there during the protests that ensued when the crowd realised that our Parliamentarians had chosen to maintain legal discrimination against us. I was there to witness a group of angry gay men trying to storm a Westminster Palace which had locked its doors against equality.

I was there at the beginning when parental rights where a major issue for lesbian and gay people. And at a time when the Daily Mail and the gutter press insisted we had no right to have children, that we were a threat to the well being of young people, I started a family with lesbian friends. We didn’t ask any straight person’s permission. We didn’t appeal to authority for help. We just did it. We were amongst the first generation of lesbians and gay men to do so. We established that it was possible. We proved that it was good. We opened the doors to parenthood for the generations of lesbians and gay men who followed.

I didn’t have kids to prove a political point, that would have been crass and shallow. I had kids for the same reasons anyone has kids. But we were fully aware of the political significance of the simple act of conception. My children have brought my family immense joy and pride, they are happy, well balanced, doing well in life, they grew up surrounded by love. I am zealous in my protection of my daughters.

I will not be lectured to by the Labour party about homophobia or LGBT issues. I am sickened and revolted by the modern attempts of Labour to assert that it was and is the leading organisation in the societal struggle against discrimination. Because the Labour party was as complicit as the other mainstream parties in maintaining and fostering homophobia.

My partner suffers from a terminal illness. I spend my days caring for him. Yet when he dies I will not inherit his pension rights, because the Labour party decided when it introduced civil partnerships that pension rights would not be backdated. We’ve been a couple for decades, but in the eyes of the law our relationship dates only from our civil partnership ceremony a few years after the law was changed in 2004. I face an uncertain financial future due to the Labour party. That’s real homophobia. That’s discrimination and abuse which is far worse than being called rude names on Twitter. And it’s the Labour party which is responsible for it.

I am of the gay generation which defined homophobia. I’m of the gay generation which taught the likes of the LGBT claque in the modern Labour party what homophobia is, how to identify it, how to challenge it, and how to overcome it. So I’ll not be having them telling me what is or is not homophobic. I’ll be telling them. And I am telling them that Stu Campbell and the readers and followers of Wings Over Scotland are not homophobes. Neither are they hypocrites – that would be the No campaigners making accusations of homophobia in a transparent attempt to create fear, doubt and uncertainty.

No is the campaign of fear and looking over your shoulder to the past. The Yes campaign is the Scotland of equality and inclusion, it seeks to give ordinary Scottish people the tools they need to determine their own future on their own terms. The gay rights movement sought the empancipation of gay people, it fought for equality and inclusion, to give ordinary lesbian and gay people the tools they need to determine their own future on their own terms. Gay rights and Scotland’s rights are part of the same struggle.

Yes is the future, it’s multicoloured, multiethnic, it’s straight, bi and queer. It’s Scotland in all her glory. We’re here, we’re queer, we’re voting yes.

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157 comments on “We’re here, we’re queer, we’re voting yes

  1. macart763 says:

    You can’t hear it, but I’m cheering. 🙂

    Well said Paul.

  2. Carol Jardine says:

    Well said, sir. (From an over 60, straight woman)

  3. Blizzard says:

    Just when we think that your posts could not be any more powerful, you go and write a testament to truth like this! Fantastic stuff Paul. If I were a labour voter reading this I would hang my head in shame

    … and then vote YES.

  4. It’s so good you are able to call out the bullshitters Paul!

  5. Carrig Mick says:

    Heart-full and powerfully written piece Paul.

    Excuse my ignorance, I hadn’t realised that the Labour party (and the rest of the charlatans) had prevented the back-dating of pension rights to civil partnerships! Bit premature I know, but, has there been talk on this changing come a Yes vote?

    Yours in Solidarity!

  6. The attempts to make the LGBT community reject independence has been crass and stupid. I’ll be reposting your brilliant rebuttal far and wide. All the very best to you from pale stale male straight old English me.

  7. Steve Bowers says:

    Wooo Hooo Paul, kick arse stuff, go get em.

  8. Gillie says:

    Words fail me at times, all I have is “brilliant”. It is a pity I can’t do better than that to salute what you have written.

  9. refab82 says:

    Well said Paul – fantastic article which, for me, made the undernoted two phrases in your piece stand out:-

    “Acceptance and love. The love of Scotland is a many gendered thing.”

    ” Real Scottish lesbian and gay people are here, we’re queer, and we’re Scottish independence supporters too. We’re not going to live in a ghetto in an independent Scotland. We’re going to be mainstream, out in the open, and participating fully.”

  10. Bigbricks says:

    Eloquently and passionately said (both adjectives describing things pretty much absent from mainstream BT arguments). Hear hear, from an over 60, straight male!

  11. That came from the heart and it goes straight to the heart. Thank you, Paul.

    Fury at being evicted from what it sees as its rightful place of government in Scotland has made the Labour Party lose the plot. They are lashing out incoherently at everyone and everything they can blame for their demotion, and for the polls narrowing.

    A political party that behaves in this manner has, in my opinion, no right to expect electoral gain or be entrusted with government of any kind. Unfortunately many voters remain blinded by the reality and, living in the past, think Labour still can be trusted to represent them.

    Unless there is an almost total about-turn the thought of a Labour administration in Scotland is increasingly dispiriting. We can only hope for a yes vote in September and for the unionist parties to embark on a hard look at themselves and their policies before reinventing themselves. Otherwise there is a growing list of people in Scotland who are going to find themselves the target of unwanted policies and rhetoric.

    It’s good to the the indy biggies in the blogsphere sticking together on this as this is the only way such attacks can be overcome. They hope to divide, setting one against another, and pick each off. Standing together makes their success more unlikely.

  12. Excellent blog post!

    Although it’s nothing to do with homophobia, your characterisation of Labour’s LGBT people reminded me of this weird Twitter exchange between Iain Macwhirter and Margaret Curran:

    IMW: This trawling the internet for nut cases is puerile. “They’re saying nasty things about you” Grow up everyone

    MC: never tell women to grow up when responding to misogynistic abuse.

  13. manandboy says:

    2 x Yes. We have a deal.

  14. TJenny says:

    Paul, I do love you and you are indeed a wordsmith of epic proportions in everyday language that all can comprehend. Your phrase:

    ‘The love of Scotland is a many gendered thing.’

    Could be another candidate for a Yew Choob number. 🙂


  15. John Kerr says:

    Great article Paul. Most people are unaware of the institutionalized homophobia that is a legacy of the Labour Party. Like you, if anything happens to my partner I only qualify for a 25% portion of his pension. This ruling was brought in by Labour (in 2005 I think) when they could have introduced full equal rights. The local authority where my man worked was happy to take full pension contributions out of his wages and therefore out of our joint income, but for the first 23 years we were together, if something should have happened to him I would have received nothing. Meanwhile a heterosexual wife or husband would have gotten a 50% pension payment. Nine years on, I am treated as “a second wife”, because we got civil partnered in 2005.
    So, once again let down by the party of the people. Let’s hope in our shiny new Independent Scotland that the Labour Party we know becomes extinct like the rest of the dinosaurs and that we move forward into an enlightened Scotland with equality for all, complete with our human rights enshrined within a Scottish Constitution.
    Like you I have never seen anything homophobic on Wings.This is just UKOK/NoThanks trying to divide and conquer. Guess what, in the same way they will not win in September, they will not win by doing this either.
    Look after yourself and I’m glad you managed to get out for a couple of hours. Being a full time carer for Andy must leave you feeling drained at times and hopefully in iScotland full-time carers will be appreciated a damn sight more than they are by our current lords and masters in Westminter.

  16. andygm1 says:

    I’ve been trying to post comments about this on BetterNation.org which is where the anonymous article can be found.

    My own take on the stooshie was disappeared.

    Next up I posted a link too this article. Disappeared.

    Then I posted the first two paragraphs as an attributed quote. Placed in moderation which is code for ‘Disappeared’

    I may be over sensitive, but it suggests that they are really only prepared to listen to one side of the story. The word ‘hypocrites’ springs to mind.

    • sneekyboy says:

      Lets consult the dictionary to see if we can come up with a word to describe that type of person…

      Bigot (noun): a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people or ideas; a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group with hatred and intolerance.

      Sound familiar Andy?

      • Hugh Wallace says:

        Sounds very familiar. I was called a bigot on Twitter by James MacKenzie of Better Nation because I had the temerity to say that Wings was not a misogynistic or homophobic site. Aren’t BN on the side of Yes? So it is not just Better Together/No Thanks or U KOK who are stirring the shit pot.

        • That’s par for the course. James Mackenzie abuses and/or blocks people who don’t sign up to his world view 100%. For instance, he blocked me yesterday to daring to agree with Robin MacAlpine’s Yes Together blog post.

          • roddymacdonald2014 says:

            Welcome to the world of the Committee Warriors I discussed here: http://logicsrock.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/wings-waffle-about-lgbt-issues.html

            If you don’t share their abstruse world view, forget it. Mind you, this is probably the most traffic that blog Better Nation which is usually discussing how many angels may do the hokey-cokey on the head of a pin has ever had.

            • Thanks for the link, Roddy! I was talking to my wife about that article yesterday, but I couldn’t remember where I had read it, which was really frustrating. It’s a great blog post, the perfect companion piece to the excellent one we’re commenting on here.

  17. […] We’re here, we’re queer, we’re voting yes. […]

  18. mary vasey says:

    Well said that man. Straight from one heart to many. Thanks

  19. Illy says:

    Wow… So much to respond to…

    First off: You’re gay? Somehow that hadn’t quite clicked for me.

    Have you looked into common law marriages and how to get them officially recognised? They might be a loophole to get your partner’s pension sorted out. I’m not a lawyer, but it’s somewhere I’d look if it was me.

    Now, about homophobia and WoS:

    Prelude: Effeminate men creep me out, I have no clue why. I try not to let it bother me.

    As far as I see it WoS treats the LGBT community exactly how everyone should: He ignores them.

    Now, before you get up in arms about that statement, let me explain why that’s a good thing. It means he doesn’t give a toss about who people love, and doesn’t let it colour his writing (at least as far as I have seen). He doesn’t have an explicit statement about it, same as he doesn’t have an explicit statement about redheads being welcome.

    Which is how it should be. If you feel the need to put explicit warnings about something like that up, well, I’ll compare you to UKIP’s statements about them not allowing members of the BNP in. It’s admitting you have a problem.

    And when was the last time Westminster actually had the moral high ground on anything? (Have they ever?)

    Now, I think you need some cheering up, so I’m going to remind you that the Sacred Band of Thebes (The most famous unit in Ancient Greece, and the unit that the movie “300” is loosely based on) was reputedly composed of 150 gay couples.

    • JGedd says:

      They apparently preferred gay couples because it was assumed that each hoplite would fight more bravely with his lover by his side. Seems like a sensible assumption, they were pretty formidable.
      And what’s this about redheads? As a ginger myself…….not feeling victimized of course.

      • Illy says:

        That’s the point: If you feel the need to actively disclaim something, you’re admitting that you have a problem.

        NO-ONE says “I don’t object to redheads” unless they’ve been accused of discriminating against redheads. The same attitude should apply to sexual orientation.

        ie. we shouldn’t need to have this discussion.

      • Illy says:

        Re: The Sacred Band:

        That kinda throws the whole “no women in the military” discussion on its head, doesn’t it? The reason they claim is that having your lover on the battlefield is distracting, whereas the Sacred Band felt it made you fight harder.

  20. Iain (orri) McCord says:

    Just to be clear, have you married after the law in Scotland changed? It might be worth checking that out as I’d have thought doing so would give you the same pension rights as any other married couple.

  21. Dunkie says:

    I have spent much of the afternoon putting an email together trying to explain to a very good friend in Holland what is happening here with the referendum. I think we can all feel the passion of what Paul has had to say here. That life asserting passion is so cleansing and I’m sure it is running through most of us in the YES right now. Bloody brilliant isn’t it?

    Here’s what I had to say to my Dutch pal. Hope you find some passion in it. I know it is rather long sorry about that.

    It is a pity that the picture of the Scots boys which you sent me showed them in such an aggressive pose. All the press in this country except one are against independence and they love to get pictures like that which show the YES campaign as aggressive and nasty. This fits the false narrative that they want to use all the time against people who know what the press are looking for and who do their best to avoid giving them these kind of images to build false stories around. You would not believe how nasty the press are here.

    You said “Our government knows only one thing: economy measures. Except for the bosses” That seems to be the picture across many countries now across the face of the earth. The rich and powerful are looking after each other globally and are happy to destroy the earth’s resources through fracking, cutting down rain forest etc and to encourage war so that they can keep their arms industry going ever merrily onwards.

    Scottish Independence is a major threat to the rich and powerful in the UK because many many people are now waking up to just how much their lives are controlled by big business and by the politicians who are only too happy to put the interests of these businesses before good governance for the benefit of ordinary people. Our name for this political policy of always favouring the wealthy and powerful against the interests of the people is NEO LIBERALISM and it is extremely right wing. The philosophy of progressively cutting back on the power of the state in favour of big business emanates from the Republican movement in America and is most extreme in the activities of the TEA PARTY there. I am sure you will know exactly what I am talking about.

    So Westminster is throwing everything it can find against us through the press and through the BBC. The press is largely owned by those who belong within the right wing power elite and the political reportage of BBC has always been the voice of Westminster. So through the media in general they have tried to create as much uncertainty and fear about Scottish Independence as they possibly can within the politically unaware in Scotland – who are called the DON’T KNOWS (they don’t know whether to vote yes or no). These don’t knows account for around at least a third of the population. The NO campaign themselves even gave this policy the name PROJECT FEAR and talk about it as DAMBUSTING. Truth and honesty in their campaign were abandoned very early and there is nothing they will not do to try to stop the independence movement. It is extremely dirty.

    You possibly think I am getting neurotic in my old age but I can assure you this is what is happening in a so-called democratic country – Goebbells would be proud of them.

    However the longer the campaign goes on, and as YES continues inexorably to get closer to NO in the polls, the picture I have just described becomes more and more extreme and clear to ever more and more ordinary people. The country is suddenly alive with unstoppable political debate. It is not now a nationalist movement at all; it is a search for a new and much more equal form of democracy, for a form of governance that cares about the environment and the people who stay in it, and which wants nuclear weapons removed.

    You can see what a threat this poses to the power elite globally especially as people in many other countries are watching what we are doing here very carefully and see the YES movement articulating ideas they also have for a world which is not run on Neo Liberal lines by their own militaristic, self seeking power elites. It is truly a global disease that we are trying to find a cure for and that really scares the elite with all their billions. We now know that Westminster does its best to sustain the disease. We are governed by an elite which uses parliament to look after their own kind at the expense of broader society. They have worked on Obama and the Chinese President to get them to speak (very half heartedly in both case) in favour of keeping the UK together. They themselves paint it as being cataclysmic for the world if we vote YES. If you don’t believe me on that check this link.


    I am sure you will recognise this picture above to some extent at least in your own country and certainly thinking people in the rest of the UK are now looking to us to lead the way in breaking the grip of the elite in the UK and lead them to a more just society – as you would have seen in the video clip I sent you from the people of Wales. Honestly I am not going off my head with this. Something very big is happening step by step here mainly through ordinary people (who are of course far from ordinary) talking to each other over the internet and at public halls etc the length and breadth of the country. It is very exciting to be part of this.

    I am sorry to hear that musicians and artists are not appreciated much in Holland of all places (considering what you gave to mankind especially in the 17th century) and that Maarten is having a hard time to survive financially. It is all part of the picture I have described above politicians know the price of everything but the value of nothing. The creative people here are almost all in favour of YES and I’m sure again you will understand why – the birth of something new which aspires to emulate the joyful vitality of life itself rather than see life stifled out of living communities by the dead hand of austerity and centuries old ideological control for the benefit of the privileged few.

    Sorry this is so heavy with politics but it is all a beautiful dream to me that I would love to see come to reality, not only for Scotland but for the benefit of good honest people in the rest of the UK and beyond. We know that getting independence is only a start on a long difficult road but at least we feel we will mostly be pushing up heartily towards the light through whatever rough or smooth ground we find in our way rather having a concrete slab sitting above the seed of our aspirations.

    • annie McFarlane says:

      Dunkie, that’s an excellent description of Scotland’s struggle and the global greed movement.

  22. Absolute magic mate. I’d like to hear that clown Hothersall’s reply – but I won’t hold my breat!

  23. John Hein says:

    Fucking right on, Brother!

  24. 1707repeal says:

    Well effin said, maun.

  25. Clootie says:

    Well done once again!

    I like plain speaking and you achieve that standard with style 😀

  26. Ruth Laird says:

    Oh my that was just so powerful thank you so much!

  27. Jeannie says:

    Paul, sometimes your writing takes my breath away!

  28. RevStu says:

    “It means he doesn’t give a toss about who people love, and doesn’t let it colour his writing (at least as far as I have seen). He doesn’t have an explicit statement about it, same as he doesn’t have an explicit statement about redheads being welcome.”

    That’s about the size of it. If two (or, indeed, more) people love each other and they’re above the age of consent, then as far as I’m concerned the details are simply none of my damn business. A man and a woman, two men, two women, two men AND two women, two men who USED to be women, whatever. Don’t care. Get married, don’t get married, have kids, adopt kids, don’t have kids, whatever makes you happy. Good luck to you. The world needs more love. It shouldn’t even need SAYING that you should get all the same rights as everyone else.

    I can take any amount of smearing from the No campaign. I understand it. They’re terrified of Wings and they can’t beat its arguments and its facts, so all they’ve got left is to try to discredit it by going after me personally. Bring it on. They’re amateurs compared to what I’ve had to deal with in the last 20 years.

    But as for what certain folk on the *Yes* side get out of it, that’s where I’m scratching my head. The venom is incredible. The flat-out lies, the laughably transparent distortions, the censoring of any evidence that disproves them. It’s sheer, blind, fanatical hate, which as far as I can tell I’ve done nothing to provoke.

    I have literally no idea what these people think they’re achieving, or for whose benefit. All I know is that none of us mere humans can ever be pure enough for them. It is, in the most literal sense of the term, intellectual fascism – you CANNOT be permitted to deviate in even the SMALLEST way from what they consider the one non-negotiable list of acceptable beliefs, or there’s no difference between you and Nick Griffin, and they’ll do everything they can to bully and hound you out of existence.

    Luckily, I couldn’t give the steam off a gnat’s turd what they think, and they’ve picked the wrong guy to try to shout down. Wings isn’t going anywhere, nor will it change.

    Support much appreciated, Paul. But it’s the bullets coming at my back I’m wearing armour for, not the ones in the front.

    • weegingerdug says:

      You’re scaring them – that makes you powerful. Use that power against them.

      • RevStu says:

        I understand why we’re scaring the No camp. What’s making some Yes folk so angry is what baffles me.

        • weegingerdug says:

          It’s because they’re scared.

          • Morag says:

            Or jealous?

          • RevStu says:

            Scared of what, though? What possible threat am I to THEM?

            • weegingerdug says:

              Vague and inchoate woo, usually. Fear isn’t rational – it divides and isolates. They believe the scares from the BT mob that you are a threat to their aspirations. The more cautious in any campaign for civil rights often criticise those who are fearless. Just ignore them and keep doing what you’re doing.

        • JGedd says:

          A doubtful friend is worse than a certain enemy: Aesop

        • Mark says:

          Hi Stu. Just a suggestion (genuinely).

          I’m the first to admit that before Twitter, I had no idea that referring to a transgender person as “he” or “she” is often a really big deal in those circles. The upset it causes some people, seems to me (again, I admit I’m a layperson on the issue) akin to the upset felt by words like n****r or p*ki. Is it really worth causing that sort of upset, simply to prove the point that you “won’t be told” how to address another person? How does proving that point benefit Wings Over Scotland or you personally? It just appears self-defeating to me.

          I understand perfectly that you are up against unionist muppets, the Scottish press (and of course Rangers fans!) day in day out, but lumping people who criticise you because they’ve been genuinely hurt by things you’ve said, in with the trolls, feels a bit heartless – not to mention disrespectful – no?

          Some of your readers do this a lot, unfortunately. Reminds me of Newsnet Scotland a few years ago. Do you remember the pitchforks etc when you yourself dared to question the wisdom of their Gaelic articles? 😀 I’ve always hoped that experience was partly responsible for you starting your own Scottish politics blog, “to show them”!

          So I’m not having a go, but I do think your default reaction online is often to defend yourself to the death, and while it’s extremely gratifying to witness you taking some powerful or influential blowhard down a peg…

          …when you point that same hostility in the direction of (for want of a better expression) one of “society’s underdogs” it doesn’t come across as quite so valiant. Does that make sense? You could always try swallowing your pride and admit it’s *possible* they may know more about the subject than you do…. Worth a shot, surely? Up to you 🙂

          • Illy says:


            Isn’t whether you call someone “he” or “she” completely determined by either how they self-identify, or what genitailia they have, depending on the context of the conversation?

            This shouldn’t need saying, but there’s a lot of that going around.

            • Mark says:

              As I say, I’m no expert, but my understanding is that genitalia has very little to do with whether someone has the right to self-identify how they wish. Chelsea Manning changed her name legally, was diagnosed with gender dysphoria, and self-identifies as a “she”. So what is the actual point of insisting to pedantically (and incorrectly) refer to Chelsea Manning as a “he”? What possible purpose does it serve?

              • Illy says:

                I said “depending on the context of the conversation”.

                There are few times that genatailia are the relevent bit, but when they are, they are. They’re mainly relevent for your doctor(s) and your lover(s).

                There’s probably a good discussion on this on the xkcd boards.

          • Goldfish says:

            “So I’m not having a go” lolz.

    • Sunshine on Crieff says:

      Brilliant. WoS is invaluable as a source of information, and I was hoping you would not be letting the “bastards grind you down”. If that response is anything to go by my fears are groundless.

      I have read and commented on Wings for a while now and I have never come across anything that chimes with what you have been accused of. You are obviously a massive threat to those who wish to preserve the British state, and the British political and media establishment were always going to try and discredit you. What motivates certain independence supporters to join the mob however, is beyond me.

      Keep fighting the good fight!

    • ian foulds says:

      No doubt someone has already said this but – are they not trying to distract you guys from the real challenge which you been admirably meeting (and dancing rings round these sad little people with their playground attacks)?

      No doubt when we win you will, like true Scots, be gracious to the other side and invite them to participate in building the Scotland, real Scots want.

      Note to Wee Ginger Dug – Great article. Once again you made me give consideration to your comments – which is incredible, as my wife will confirm I am more of the ‘traditional thinking and acting’ Scot.

      To all of you,
      Keep your morale high, I am amazed at your resiliience and stamina. You are nearly at the starting line for the new and free Scotland which I intend to be at when I retire to Scotland in the New Year

      Kind regards,


  29. aplinal says:

    Well said. My son is a trans. He was born into a body that he didn’t want or understand and just a few months ago I attended his wedding. One of the happiest days of my life. The abuse and “misunderstanding” he has faced is more than I think I would have wanted to cope with. He is now loved and respected for whom he is.

    He now works for a voluntary LGBT organisation and once again faces the stupid mindless abuse of people who don’t want to understand that people are different, but that this is “normal”.

    I’m not religious, Paul, and I don’t know you, but for what it’s worth, you have my thoughts and respect.


  30. Alastair Bishop says:

    Fantastic, powerful, heart-felt piece of writing Paul.

    This has been the latest in a long line of transparent attempts by No to divide and conquer. We must not allow ourselves to be diverted from working together for a Yes vote.

    Now you’ll have to excuse me, but I have something in my eye…

  31. rab_the_doubter says:

    Not only all of the above Paul -You are also one of the bravest people I’ve had the good fortune to meet.

  32. jdman says:

    Keep right on fighting Paul were with you!

  33. Liz Quinn says:

    Paul, another stunning post. Thank you.

  34. tartantights says:

    As a self identified transwoman I find the boorish pompousity of the Labour Party on this issue to be slightly more than sickening. You see in 2004 the then Labour government brought in legislation in the form of duties for all six strands of equality at least they did in England and Wales. This meant that people would be covered under Age, Disability,Gender, Race, Religion and Belief and Sexual Orientation.

    In Scotland however the situation was somewhat different as the Labour/ Liberal Democrat coalition brought in only four of these duties excluding Disability and LGBT Citizens from potential cover and protection in many important areas of their lives. These exclusions were we were told due to pressures from ‘religious organisations’.

    Not long after the SNP victory in 2007 I e-mailed the SNP equalities spokesperson on equalities and informed them of this and they said they would forward my e-mail to the justice secetary which they did. On hearing this my line manager at the time said to me and I quote ‘you’ll have a long time waiting the SNP do don’t do equality’.

    It was with great pleasure when early on the morning of the 17th December 2007 I was able to forward sent on behalf of the justice minister by my contact at GCC to tell me that the government would be addressing both of these inequalities early in the new year of 2008 a promise which history will show that Kenny MacAskill honoured in the name of the fair and equal Scotland both he and our party have always believed in. It was with even greater pleasure I reminded my line manager a likeable if deluded individual what was it you said about the SNP not doing equalities?

    Best Wishes
    Gayle X

    • weegingerdug says:

      Thank you for saying that. I have no authority to speak about the challenges and struggles faced by transsexual people. I want an independent Scotland which accepts and values all its citizens – and with people like you on our side we’ve already won the battle for moral authority.

  35. I haven’t felt that good since Archie Gemmill scored against Holland in 1978!

  36. Capella says:

    A bold and timely statement. The smear campaigns seem to focus on misogyny, homophobia and fascism. The lack of evidence to support these accusations suggests to me that this is projection on the part of the accusers. It describes the deeply undemocratic British state. Anyone challenging it as successfully as you and Wings (and Alicsammin) is bound to be subjected to all the dirty tricks in the book. Your supporters know this so be aware of the ocean of support for you front line bloggers. The Force is with you !

  37. […] Stu Campbell, who runs the Wings Over Scotland website, has recently come under sustained abuse by Unionists. He's been accused of just about everything with the possible exception of being persona…  […]

  38. david says:

    I am not a nationalist. I don’t care about independence, I care about living in a just society. It seems the only way that I can vote to make that happen is by voting “Yes”. Reading the above post, Paul, before I go out leafleting tonight reminds me I am on the right side of a debate about justice, disguised as a fight about a flag.

    Great post btw

  39. macart763 says:

    Accusations of intolerance from the campaign which claims being foreign isn’t desirable. You wonder if they ever stand back and look at their own rhetoric from time to time and think, FFS why did I say that?

    • Helena Brown says:

      Nope they do not Mac, they are the fearties of the Political Class, oh they talk a good game, like all those Tea Breaks Monday Morning Managers, but when it comes down to it, they are frightened. They want power, at any price and boy they sacrificed their soul for it, but actually follow through with the rhetoric, never.
      I have to say if the good Rev had been guilty of all said about him. I can think of a good many women on Wings who would have gutted him before now. The women on Wings are not the timorous wee women that do not know what way is up, oh no, they are the Political Women that Harriet Harmon would fear to meet, far less JoLa.
      Maybe when we are finished with this business, we could turn our attention to equal rights for all. Scotland needs this, nobody should be discriminated against. We are the Nation of Burns are we not. Who cares what anyone does in the bedroom, or anywhere else as long as it is between consenting adults. Legal issues like pension rights should be the same for everyone.

      • macart763 says:

        Oh Jeez, the thought of Morag or Cath being considered timorous. 😀

        I do more reading than commenting on Wings, but I’ve never been ashamed to say I’m a fan.

        We have a once in a lifetime history making chance in our own hands here, with the ability to influence a written constitution no less. We start right there to make Scotland a better, fairer place to live. We have no one else to blame but ourselves if we pass it up because of fear or a lack of confidence. I know we can do it though. You just have to look at this thread to see the kind of Scotland that is possible. Tolerant, inclusive, humorous, supportive, community minded and courageous.

        That’s my Scotland.

  40. Conan_the_Librarian says:

    Excellent stuff as always.

    Views are changing slowly but surely. Remember the press outrage in the early eighties of “PC gone mad”? Obviously still there but the goalposts have changed considerably.

    As a straight middle aged grandfather, I remember a slightly younger co-worker than me about 1979. We were both bikers into heavy metal, and he was really into a band called ‘Rush’. On the back cover of one of their albums was a figure called the “Starman”, a naked man with his back to the viewer facing a pentangle.
    He got it tattooed on his arm, and his father kicked him out of the house for being a gay Satanist…

    • Holy crap, Conan! Was his old man for real? My mate’s ma embroidered ‘Starman’ on the back of his combat jacket for him. Still a fair few torches and pitchforks out there all the same!

      • Conan_the_Librarian says:

        My stepfather rummaged about the sideboard and handed me a ribbon the first time I visited him with my hair in a ponytail…

        • 😄 I was about 12 the first time I saw a bloke in a pony tail and I did think it looked a bit alien. By the time I was a couple of years older it was so commonplace nobody gave it a second glance and by the time I was 18 it was safe for a straight bloke like me to dye his hair burgundy!

          • Illy says:

            I was about 7 when I stopped cutting my hair. (Ok, stopped letting my parents cut it, but you get the idea)

            Being the only guy in *primary* school with long hair in the 90s was… “interesting”.

            (And no, it was nothing to do with my sexuality, it was so I didn’t have to waste the time getting it cut)

  41. Paul, I’ve been giving some thought recently as to what I’ll use the epls blog for after we get our Independence.
    I think you’ve already found your path.

    Take care….

  42. Bidge says:

    Thank you for the support for the Rev. Its sad that the smear has got too such a level that it has compelled you to write this particular blog. Excellent piece by the way.

  43. Robert Peffers says:

    Gawn yersel. Ye tell the truth.

  44. JimnArlene says:

    As I’ve said before, here, my daughter is gay. For the life of me, I cannot understand why people can hate, other, people for falling in love. The liebour party, have never been the party of the people, working / non-working, straight / gay, black / white ( or any shade in between ). They have been and continue to be the party of the parties own interest. Anyone exposing this, will be attacked, by all and any means, with the result friends will turn against friends , Wings (why I don’t understand, the man Thé Rev was talking about, could in all fairness be described as scum) for example. This we can ignore, as the common goal; of independence out weighs, short term folly.
    As a human being, thank you Paul, you are a wonderful wit and a humanitarian, long may you prosper and give joy to all, not to mention rip the utter pish oot o them that ur agin common sense.

  45. WRH2 says:

    Fantastic article. It’s maybe not one of your side splitting funny blogs but it truly takes my breath away. I believe everyone has a right to live their life with dignity and without having to apologise to anyone about the person they are. That’s why I’m voting Yes because I was born a Scot and it seemed when I was young we were all expected to be ashamed of who we were.

  46. Jan Cowan says:

    Excellent – written with great passion…………and I’m of the generation brought up to believe that “gay” meant “happy”!!

  47. Cag-does-thinking says:

    Another great weblog. In all campaigns there’s a point when the argument turns in your favour. The desperate attempts to smear people who have peacefully pointed out the inconsistencies of the No side keep failing because their machine just doesn’t get what grass roots campaigning is about. I’ve certainly noticed a real nasty turn in the dark arts of late but it’s failing to make much impression and the most important thing is that it is noticed by the public. We’re winning the argument and it’s only three months till I’m sure we will win the vote.

    There is a long way to go in trans rights, trans people have real day to day struggles for acceptance and they do all need our help and support, especaily in regard to discrimination against them in employment and the benefits system. I hope that day will come soon.

  48. Juteman says:

    I can’t add anything that others haven’t said, but I just want to add my appreciation for a fantastic piece of writing,
    I think it’s becoming obvious that some so called Yes voters have a different agenda.

  49. Arthur Thomson says:

    What you do is so good to be part of.

  50. Teri says:

    Fantastic Post, Paul. You certainly don’t miss and hit the wall. This should be compulsory reading for all those No Hopers who daily spew their bile and try to discredit anyone that supports Indpendence. Gaun yersel, Paul.

  51. figib says:

    Loved this blog – shows what a progressive forward society we will be able to achieve. This recent Unionist negativity will turn and bite them back – people will become disenfranchised and turn to Yes.

  52. Sora Lochiel says:

    Great piece, so many excellent points and so well put. Thank you!

  53. roddymacdonald2014 says:

    Excellent post Paul and a big here here from me. If I may add as another middle aged gay person, that goes for the useful idiots who purport to be on the Yes side who seem to get off on regularly manufacturing outrage and decrying Stuart as homophobic, misogynistic, transphobic or whatever.

    Whichever side they’re from in the indyref debate it does gay folk, trans folk and women no favours (and, frankly, grips my shit) to see terms like homophobia, transphobia and misogyny devalued by these narcissistic manufacturers of outrage.

  54. “Fear isn’t rational – it divides and isolates. They believe the scares from the BT mob that you are a threat to their aspirations. The more cautious in any campaign for civil rights often criticise those who are fearless.”

    A really interesting and perceptive analysis. I will remember that. Fearties versus fearless.

  55. dave m says:

    Graduating again as a 58 year old tomorrow 26/6/14 at Stirling. PLEASE let us ALL feel safe, but especially in the Scotland we can create. Dave 🙂

  56. Cath says:

    Thank you for this. I’m a woman who’s written a few things for Wings and was trying last night to express a similar sentiment from a female point of view after a load of men started trying to tell me I should feel oppressed as a woman by Wings! I gave up because it became too confused and ranty. That said, I’ve given up on quite a number of articles because the whole debate is now becoming one of self-censorship due to censorship by bloody unionists, which is being taken up by a clique of right-on, supposedly yes people. I’m moving through that and back into a kind of “fuck them attitude”.

    After reading this, I want to go back to that piece about silencing women and misogyny, because it’s not Wings that’s doing it.

    • sneekyboy says:

      Hi Cath, saw your Better Nation post and agreed wholeheartedly.

      I’ve had several folk berating people who shared my articles on Wings – saying ‘the writer’ was homophobic, misogynist, Transphobe etc… but the writer was me, not Stu who they were trying to smear; and they hadn’t bothered to even read the articles to see what they were on – in each instance I stepped in to demand retraction.

      The hounding of people in the manner done by some on the ‘Yes’ side (a certain couple of prominent ones spring to mind) is bullying, pure and simple, and it needs stood against every time!

    • Helena Brown says:

      Cath as I said to Mac earlier here, if Stu was doing anything the women on Wings wouldn’t stand for it and as for being oppressed, women on Wings are equal to all of the men and I don’t remember any man saying different.

    • Betsy says:

      That is EXACTLY where I’m at. Where in the name of God did these men get the idea that women need to be told when they’re being oppressed? I can’t help but think a lot of them get off on belittling, patronising and silencing women’s voices and have found a pc way to do it.

      I know it’s hard wading through all that tiring nonsense but don’t give up. I have really enjoyed your articles on Wings. Your voice is much more valuable than your self censorship. I don’t know you and we’ve never met but from your writing, you come across as a thoughtful and reasonable person both admirable traits but tend to come with a wee tendency to self doubt in the face of strident and unreasonable behaviour. Don’t be silenced, don’t be bullied and yeah…quite frankly fuck them!

  57. A Greater Stage says:

    I wish I could write half so well, I think I can safely say I speak for thousands when I say we’re with you and the Rev all the way. We’ll all build something better.

  58. Well articulated mate, excellent article. For a Socially Democratic, Socially Just and Socially Inclusive Independent Scotland.

    Have a good idea who the Blairite sympathising neoliberal in New Labour is. I also was called “homophobic scum” by this idiot a couple of years ago, when I drew attention to the fact this individual campaigns in BT beside UKIP, BNP etc. The insult came to me upon him loosing the argument and despite me being openly -sexual!

    Well done mate and hell mend them.

  59. wakeupbeforeitstoolate says:

    As has been said many times before, well done WGD once again for putting forth a resounding argument for equality…we as a nation are not defined by our sensuality, religious preference or anything else…I’m gay and had far worse abuse when I came out in 2000 from the people that knew me!!


  60. wakeupbeforeitstoolate says:

    That should have been sexuality, not sensuality lol!

  61. JGedd says:

    An eloquent blast against all those who wish to seek out difference. You are right Paul, at heart it is really all about fear. Join a mob and then all self-doubt can be absorbed into the comforting uniform identity of a crowd. It’s really very primitive social behaviour assumed to be more sophisticated and complex because it’s being exhibited by humans. Finding a common target for the group diverts attention from the individuals within the group.

    I used to explain it to my children, that if everyone looked exactly the same as everyone else, the one with the freckle on their nose would be made a pariah.

    You have had to overcome so much adversity yourself, Paul, but it has made you a formidable writer and campaigner. I hope we are able to work towards the community we all crave in a new Scotland. Let’s not be derailed by the self-appointed witch-prickers in our own midst!

  62. Oneironaut says:

    Very well said! 😀

    I’d cheer if I could figure out how to type that on here… (“YAY!”?)
    Nothing worse than a society that doesn’t allow people to be themselves, instead trying to force them to conform to some bigoted ideal.
    Hoping very much that a future independent Scottish government will dump all those UKIP-style prejudices into the past where they belong. They have no place in our future.

    Wishing you all the best 🙂

  63. Weegiewarbler says:

    Powerful. Shared!

  64. Paul. Just catching up with these posts after a happy two days seeing a couple of mates in Glasgow and then spending a day laying full size railway lines and giving my dog a walk for 5 miles over a 1200 foot hill in the borders!
    Anyway, as regular Wings reader and occasional lacklustre poster I just wanted to say thanks for publicly defending my honour and that of all those other followers!

    Cheers pal!

  65. cuddyback says:

    Superb post.. it reads to me as heartfelt, intense, and written in the heat of the moment, but as usual, expressed with eloquence. Chapeau!

    Now, i’ve been following Wings posts and comments from afar for months now, but i’ve never, ever detected the faintest whiff of homophobia or misogyny in anything i’ve seen there (even with my super between-the-lines vision), so i was completely astounded when i found this post here. I don’t do Twitter, so i’ve probably missed all the action; I can understand the petty insults that Stu gets from the unionists ( it’s pretty much par for the course from what i see on BritNatsAbuseBot ), but the attacks from Yessers I find impossible to understand.

    Is it not possible that these “bullets from behind” come from false friends, a tactic that at least one of the I-can’t-believe-it’s-not-better-in-the-gutter have been known to use before? Hard to say, without seeing the texts, but i detect the scent of “protest too much, methinks”…

    These people have an awful lot to lose, and i dread to think what lengths they will go to over the next couple of months. Brace yersels, and mair power tae yer keyboards, lads.

    Força! jonGZ

  66. Statgeek (@StatgeekUK) says:
    June 25, 2014 at 4:41 pmarmy
    I haven’t felt that good since Archie Gemmill scored against Holland in 1978!


    dear WGD
    you keep writing like this……….they will come for you to,
    i hope that the support and good wishes that the people on this thread and on wings will give you comfort when they turn nasty. and they will WGD, you too rev
    the british media is gonna rip both of you a second ar*e hole, and it is gonna hurt
    that is the price of sticking your head above the parapet
    i know well what sticking yer head above the parapet means
    take comfort in your supporters comments on yer blogs
    dont pay too much attention to the uk msm
    when we win in sept, future historians will review both rev stu and wgd blogs,
    this article will be very prominent
    this is very powerful stuff
    mair power tae yer elbow wgd

    you have my eternal gratitude
    yours, as ever

    schrodinger’s cat

  67. Jim Galt says:

    I can’t think of anything clever to say just thanks for a superb and moving post.

  68. K1 says:

    Thank you Paul.

  69. Arthur Finlay says:

    Hi Paul, I never thought that it was a good thing that you were gay. I never thought it was a bad thing either, it’s just a part of who you are. I’m pleased that you’re happy to be open about it, and that people seemed unconcerned. I remember growing up in the eighties, and the casual abuse that homosexuals were subjected to just for existing – we’ve come a long way since then.

    But actually, it is good that you’re gay. You’re a hugely gifted writer, with a large, avid following and you’re on the inside! When this attack on Stu started, I didn’t know how to respond. I’ve read Wings for a long time, and I know he can be blunt, but I never thought he was homophobic, sexist, or misogynistic – but none of these prejudices attack me, so how can I be sure? This post comes from a perspective that isn’t the same as mine: you speak with an authority that I don’t have.

    I want a Scotland that is free from prejudice, open to all. I read what you write, what Stu writes, what many others write and I think we all want a broadly similar thing. People are trying to divide us and this post helps keep us together. Thank you. I’m off to sing, cause I’m glad that you’re gay – I hope you don’t mind.

  70. Tris says:

    You’re a bloody good writer at any time, but when you’re angry you are quite simply magnificent.

    Respect Paul. This was marvellous and I completely agree with you.

  71. Devereux says:

    Just caught this great piece as I am in France at the moment – I hope you can hear me cheer all the way across the water. Brilliant heart felt stuff!

  72. Hugh Wallace says:

    Reblogged this on Are We Really Better Together? and commented:
    Powerful, powerful words from the Wee Ginger Dug.

  73. wendy smillie says:

    Dear Dug, i’m here, i’m queer, and i’m voting Yes!

  74. Hugh Wallace says:

    Brilliant article Paul. To produce this quality of writing in “one irate ranty go” is very impressive. Just goes to show why yours is my favourite Yes blog, after Wings of course… 😉

  75. Fiona says:


    I have nothing original or clever to say. But I do agree with all of those who have praised your analysis; your skill in writing; your humour; your sheer humanity. You speak for the kind of Scotland I want to see: for the kind of world I want to see.

    Compare and contrast this with those neoliberals who thrive on promoting fear of each other. Who dare to use me, and you, and anyone who they can identify as “other” in any way at all to promote their agenda. Who disguise their divisiveness under a self serving veneer of “inclusion” when it suits them.

    Then choose who you wish to be associated with.

  76. Paul nail hammer heid am hiding the Blowtorch before you set the World on fire.
    see You & Andy soon.

  77. Capella says:

    I just looked at the Better Nation blog post Andygm1 mentioned. It’s a bizarre diatribe against Rev Stu and Robin MacAlpine. The links she provides as evidence of Wings’ misogyny prove quite the opposite. Probably the blog owner, James, is enjoying the vastly increased hit rate that this article brings. But I won’t be a return click. Time is too precious.

  78. Eilean says:

    I have been thinking about a comment all day but how can I add to the above?

    It is great to see the support expressed here. All I can do is to add mine to the many.

  79. GM says:

    Didnt know about the pension issue, disgusting.

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  81. JPJ2 says:

    Beyond brilliant!

  82. alasdair hutchison says:

    I agree entirely. It is so refreshing to see and appreciate the diversity that has alway s been there. Fantastic!

  83. Dougie Douglas says:

    absolutely and massively rock on Paul!

  84. Need to do something about this eye dust epidemic !!Great writing and perspective. Cheers Wee Ginger Dug !!!

  85. David G. says:

    Paul, I hardly know where to begin to tell you how much I admired your post .. absolutely stunning.
    That you did it in one go is awe inspiring .. as the Americans say, you da man !

  86. annie McFarlane says:

    Paul, I read your articles every day and enjoy your humour in the face of personal and social adversity. You’re a brave and kind man and I’m grateful to you for educating and entertaining me. People like you and Stuart Campbell are the backbone of this grassroots movement we are so fortunate to be part of. You give us a focus, a place to feel part of a community of like-minded individuals who care about each other and our country. I don’t know where you and Stuart get the strength to keep going, but I’m glad you do. I’ve learned a lot from WoS, it was the first blog I read and it opened my eyes to the lies and vitriol thrown at the Yes campaign from opposition politicians backed by a corrupt media. Your article in support of Wings cuts straight through the hypocritical posturing, and fake outrage of New Labour and the No campaign. If we succeed on 18th September it will be, in large part, due to people like you and Stuart. Thanks.

  87. Helena Brown says:

    May I add I am blown away with this Post Paul, not one to miss and hit the wall at any time but this time you could have won the world cup. No reason why anyone should be discriminated against and you are as much your Andy’s partner as I am of mine, so why should you not have his pension. Labour, frightened of the day they have never seen,

  88. sashadistel says:

    I stumbled back across Better Nation the other night by chance. It was actually one of the first blogs I linked to, when I really started wanting to find out more about Scotland and it’s politics. (Sort of after Blether with Brian and before I found WOS).
    I must admit, I read the posts and saw Cath try and put another point of view and then remembered.
    Remember when you’re first finding your feet and trying to understand when the media and history has told you one thing and you realise it’s not true and you’re trying to make sense of it?
    Well I asked or put forward a POV on Better Nation, to be be told, ” this is perhaps not the site for you”. It maybe was a daft question, I don’t know, but it came across loud and clear to me an ordinary ( in the true sense) curious woman. I never got a proper answer to my question and I never went back. A bit too elitist for me.
    Fortunately I found Wings, where Stu has never belittled any of my weird and wonderful haverings ( and he must have been tempted) but given answers with evidence, letting understand and be part of this amazing debate.
    You bring another facet to it all Paul, with your funny, relevant and real take on life- Thank you

  89. YESGUY says:

    Good grief Paul

    Never seen so many comments and support. Magic and you are helping to unite us all.

    Big thanks to REV Stu. We are all the Wee Ginger Dug.

    great stuff and as angry as i was the comments made me smile and so proud of you all.

    We’re going to have some party on the 19th .

    thanks again.

  90. Jon says:

    A great post, as ever. I fear however your genuinely amusing writing elsewhere is now creeping into the serious posts, possibly by accident. I paraphrase:

    Just today Stu received another tweet from a Unionist describing him as a “homophobic c**t”. Well, he’s not homophobic!

    That made me giggle.

  91. […] the second: The Wee Ginger Dug has put up a very heartfelt post about another dimension of the debate, following a similar post by Logic’s Rock made last […]

  92. alharron says:

    I really appreciate this post, Paul.

  93. MoJo says:

    The truth always hits home …
    Like so many here I am blown away by your unfailing ability to articulate what so badly needs to be said, Paul.
    Keep sharing your insights, wisdom and passion …it really matters….

    Love brings out the best in people and there’s plenty of that here…..and throughout the YES campaign and community.
    I believe that YES is winning because it is appealing to that better nature in everyone.

    Those in the fear camp can see and feel that, ever more acutely, as the thin ice melts beneath them …..and of course they are jealous……as well as scared…..( both prime ingredients to bring out bullying behaviour)

    However everyone know that bullies don’t actually like themselves – and the Nos and the don’t knows still have choices so lets keep showing them that YES can offer them a way to change their lives for the better, and be better people .

    No time to waste being hostile and defensive, ….
    Recognise that the smears and insults are nothing but ‘ sticks and stones’ designed to upset, divide and undermine….playground stuff….

    Instead keep the focus on sharing hard information and exposing misinformation,(it’s working so far ……. thanks to Rev Stu and others ) . That will reduce the fear , and the most powerful way for us to share the love is by example – by how we conduct ourselves and treat others.
    It is up to all of us supporting Yes to collectively provide the positive role model for the new Scotland.
    Thats what will count come September.
    Thanks again Paul x

  94. iheartscotland says:

    Well said. Wonderful post.

  95. David G. says:

    Hi, cuddyback

    I haven’t checked them all but a search of Aunet for McTernan comes up with this lot


  96. SkyeNance says:

    Paul and Stu,

    I enjoy reading both your blogs and have long admired the tremendous passion and eloquence you both show in your writing.

    The powerful and awe-inspiring piece “We’re here, we’re queer, we’re voting yes” had an immediate effect on me.

    I realised we ALL need to use whatever specialised knowledge we may have to explain to others that we have a once-in- a-lifetime chance to vote Yes for the opportunity to build a fair and equal society.

    Not only am I totally and passionately committed to true socialist foundations of the NHS but as a working GP I have inside knowledge of NHS Scotland and can see the changes that are destroying the NHS in England.

    So that very evening I agreed to stand up and speak at a meeting to be arranged here on Skye which will focus on the NHS in Scotland.

  97. MoJo says:

    Wings over Scotland site seems to be down for now( Saturday morning 9.50) was working an hour or so ago – anyone know whats happening there?

  98. wakeupbeforeitstoolate says:

    Reblogged this on Wake Up Before It's Too Late and commented:
    Amazing blog, as always pointing out the obvious and setting BitterTogether in their place!


  99. tom donald says:

    “The love of Scotland is a many gendered thing”
    I want that tee shirt…

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