2021 will be the year that Scotland takes back control

 

The Tories have pretty much admitted that opponents of independence are going to lose the next Scottish independence referendum. Asked by the Daily Rocket, sorry, Record, whether they’d participate in an advisory referendum held by Holyrood following a court ruling that an advisory referendum without a section 30 order was legal, a spokesauthoritarian for The Scottish Tories said that their party would boycott the vote. Obviously, you don’t announce that you’re going to boycott a vote if you believe that you’ve got a good chance – or even a realistic chance, of winning it. You only announce that you are going to boycott a ballot when you think that you’re going to lose it and you are desperate to do what you can to delegitimise the result. It’s the political equivalent of bursting the baw when you realise that you’re going to lose the match. That’s the Tories for you, when they cannot win the argument they don’t have the grace to admit that the people have abandoned them, instead they abandon democracy.

However although the Tories will be calling on opponents of independence not to vote and will not officially take part in the campaign, you can be quite certain that they and their hypocritical allies in the overwhelmingly anti independence Scottish media won’t desist from a constant barrage of scare stories and threats which will be uncritically amplified and broadcast by the BBC and most of the Scottish press. That same press and BBC will also do their utmost to aid the Tories and reduce turnout by constantly telling everyone in Scotland that even if you do support independence , voting is pointless because Westminster won’t recognise the result.

Under such circumstances, where opponents of independence say that they are not going to vote, there’s going to be little doubt that Yes will end up with the largest share of the vote, so the main task for the independence movement will be to work to maximise voter participation and to increase turnout as much as possible in order to place the result beyond dispute. So, purely as an illustrative example, if turnout is 55% and there’s a Yes vote of 90% (which is not unfeasible if opponents of independence don’t vote at all), then even if No voters had voted they would still have lost. It’s harder for us certainly, but not impossible.

It is entirely likely that support for independence and the SNP will increase on current levels once the UK exits the EU transitional period either into the chaos of no deal or with a threadbare deal cobbled together at the last minute. That pro-independence majority will only be boosted even further if Johnson is foolish enough to refuse to agree to a Section 30 order following the election of a pro-independence majority to Holyrood next year. A union which refuses to allow the people of Scotland to decide for themselves whether and when they want an independence referendum is no union at all, and will be rejected by a large majority of the people of Scotland. Johnson’s cant about once in a generation is just that. No political party which claims to be democratic can bind the electorate to a promise that a politician from another party may or may not have made. Even among the Tories more sensible voices acknowledge that ‘just saying no’ is not sustainable.  The popular anger generated by a Johnson regime which has imposed Brexit on Scotland refusing to agree to a Section 30 order will boost support for independence to such an extent that it will guarantee that even a Conservative boycott will not be enough to call the outcome of an independence referendum into doubt.

A convincing victory in this referendum needs to be followed through however. Upon the announcement of a yes result which is beyond reasonable doubt, The SNP needs to immediately make it its job to use every arcane rule and regulation in the House of Commons playbook to bring the business of the British government grinding to a halt. They must be disruptive, they should ignore the gentleman’s agreements upon which the Westminster parliament depends and become a constant thorn in the flesh of Johnson and the Tories until they agree to begin independence negotiations. The Scottish Government should cease to co -operate with UK government departments. This should be combined with a mass campaign in Scotland of peaceful civil disobedience. If the Conservatives refuse to allow the people of Scotland to govern Scotland, then the people of Scotland need to make it their goal to ensure that the Conservatives can’t govern Scotland.

This strategy has the best chance of success if at every step along the way we ensure that we retain majority support. That means we can’t cut corners. It means first making that demand for a section 30 order and seeing it refused.

Conservative denial of Scottish democracy by refusing a Section 30 order and planning to boycott a lawful referendum held under the auspices of the Scottish Parliament will provide ample political legitimacy in the eyes of soft yes voters and undecideds for a plebiscite election in which pro-indy parties seek a direct mandate for independence itself. Johnson’s consent is not required for this to be lawful. After all, if the British government has demonstrated that it’s going to ignore the key mandate given to the Scottish Parliament by the voters of Scotland – then what is the point of a devolved parliament? It will be far harder for the Conservatives and their allies to boycott a plebiscite election. The key will then be to demonstrate to the international community that there is unarguably majority support in Scotland for independence. The international community is far more likely to accept and recognise the outcome of a Scottish plebiscite election if it sees that the British government has blocked the previously recognised route to a referendum for no other reason than the fact it’s likely to lose the vote. Then a combination of pressure from within Scotland and international opinion can bring Westminster to the negotiating table.

This isn’t going to be easy. The Conservatives and their allies are going to put every obstacle in our way. We will require determination, resolve, and plenty of that pig-headedness that Scottish people possess in abundance. But in the longer term the Tories cannot win – and they know that too.

A huge thank you to everyone who contributed to the crowdfunder. Thanks to you we have now had an offer accepted for a fully accessible new home and are aiming at moving in towards the end of January. So I won’t be blogging much over the next few weeks as we need to get everything packed up for the big move. Although my recovery is going far better than I could have dared hope, my mobility is still quite limited and I am experiencing issues with post-stroke fatigue so it takes me much longer to manage everyday tasks, and then I have a day or two when I am completely wiped out and just need to lie on the sofa and do nothing.

My walking is improving. I’m able to get about indoors without the walking stick, but am still dependent on it outdoors. I still need a wheelchair if I need to get further than a few dozen metres, but as my strength and stamina improve I should need it less and less. I am also noticing some minor issues with forgetfulness, but am told that this should also improve over the coming months. It’s already a lot better than it was, in the days after the stroke I was losing entire days – which was alarming and distressing. I  still also have some issues with hemianopia – a lack of awareness of what’s going on in the left hand side of my visual field, but this is also improving. It’s now very mild and scarcely a problem at all.

One of the biggest problems I am still experiencing is a lack of sensation and feeling on the left hand side of my body. I’m now able to waggle my fingers and some movement has returned to my thumb, but my grip is extremely weak and I struggle to pick anything up because I can’t feel if I have a grasp of it or not. However it’s still early days – only two months since the stroke when I was completely paralysed down the left hand side, and there is still plenty of potential for further improvement, so you can be sure that come hell or high water I’ll be playing a full and active role in the campaign that’s ahead of us in 2021 it’s going to be a much better year than 2020.

So in the meantime let’s all enjoy this Christmas and New Year. We’ve all go so much to look forward to in 2021 – let’s make it Scotland’s year. Johnson and the Tories are boasting that they’ve taken back control, now it’s our turn.

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739 comments on “2021 will be the year that Scotland takes back control

    • indygrump says:

      When my mother in law had a stroke while she was asleep the first thing she did was to put on shoes with a clicky heel. That allowed her to hear her foot strike the ground. She adapted immediately. She was a remarkable woman. It gave her the confidence to believe she could overcome most of the effects of the stroke. You will find your equivalents.

  1. Jane says:

    Glad to hear your recovery is progressing steadily, and that you’ve got a new home to move to.

    ‘If the Conservatives refuse to allow the people of Scotland to govern Scotland, then the people of Scotland need to make it their goal to ensure that the Conservatives can’t govern Scotland.’ Yes.

    And as for ‘once in a generation’ – when I see Johnson ‘lie down in front of bulldozers’ or even ‘dead in a ditch’, l’ll reconsider his argument.

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  3. Simon Taylor says:

    Its straight out of the Trump playbook. Discredit any democratic election with claims of illegality, fraud etc. It simply won’t work.
    My only concern Paul is a slightly worrying trend downwards in the last couple of polls. Today’s Survation poll taken at a time when the Internal market bill and No deal Brexit were increasingly likely. What do people think ? Is this a trend?

    • Golfnut says:

      Hardly, previous Survation poll had yes at 54%, the latest from Survation is 52%, which is within the 3% margin of error.

    • yesindyref2 says:

      Fieldwork 4th to 9th Dec, so done after the SNP Conference. The £500 bonus didn’t even go down that well in the NHS, and Labour are making hay with other workers, council workers, teachers, shopworkers, bus drivers. I think it was a stupid move, with the intention of provoking ire that Westminster wanted to tax it and reduce benefits, whereas everyone knows the ScotGov would have known that, and it was a cynical move to gain Indy support. The SNP leadership still think we all have mushrooms growing out our ears.

      Also though I think the NEC makeover was absolutely neccessary to refocus on Indy, people may not have been impressed with the introspection of it – or the after tantrums. Possibly the undecideds amongst SNP voters reflects that comparing that figure (13% in table 6) with the last survation (7.6% table 12). Generally undecided was 16% compared to 14.3%, so a quite large move in the SNP to be undecided. And an increase from 8.4% NO amongst SNP, to 10%. (Holyrood 2016 voting)

      But that’s short term, seeds may have been sown all the same, and after the festive season all will be forgotten, as Brexit bites. And in a Ref of course there will be no undecideds!

      • grizebard says:

        I fear you are being overtaken by your own cynicism here. There is an injunction in the New Testament not to take issue with other people being deservedly granted favour, even when unreasonably you are not. Someone’s fair gain is not anyone else’s loss. That kind of zero-sum thinking is a virtual leitmotiv of division-seeking charlatans, though I’m glad to see that you (implicitly) recognise that the Labour Party sees itself as playing that miserable role.

        As for thinking that this was all a cynical ploy by the SG, shame upon you. Is it not enough these days to make an offer out of a sense of genuine gratitude? It seems that this vile weaponisation of everything in Scottish public life by the BritNats is starting to poison your thinking.

        • Indeed, grizebard.
          Reporting Scotland featured the refuse collector’s Fred Kite Shop Steward, one of Leonard’s army of ‘Everybody-Outers, demanding that bin men and women deserve an equal bonus to nurses doctors ambulance crews care workers who have seen us through this terrible time, faced death and misery on a daily basis, and, tragically, some have died to protect us all.

          The GMB Unison EIS, and so on need a massive clean out of these erst while Fred Kites.

          At least more than half their members apparently favour self determination, yet this narrow band of Marxist Leninist Trotskyist Maoist or whatever ‘ists’, are paraded before the viewers SNP Badding, at every opportunity. They are Brit Nat Labour puppets.
          If I were in a Trades Union nowadays, I’d be campaigning to have this shabby bunch of wreckers thrown out on their ears.

          I see my bin man every week. He does the same job as ever, no more no less. He has received a wage throughout the past 9 months, unlike 800,000 souls who have been furloughed, and the tens of thousands who have lost their jobs.

          It is not a ‘game’, zero sum or otherwise.
          That Richard Leonard is still in office beats me.
          BY Springtime it will be clear that Labour has died in Scotland.

          It’s time the Trades Unions weeded out this dross.

      • Golfnut says:

        Like I said, it’s within the margin of error.

  4. Kieron says:

    I find it mind boggling that there is still people in Scotland that don’t wan’t Independence.🤯

    Everything that has happened in the last few years..EVEL, Brexit, COVID, blatant disregard for our MP’s at Westminster, lies are to name but a few and some people seem content to keep getting shafted by WM. Get off your knees and grow a spine.

    The Internal market bill will decimate Scotland and take the rest of our resources that hasn’t been stolen yet. Do No voters know what is round the corner or are they just content reading all the lies in the unionist media?

    England is moving further to the right and if we don’t get away now there will be nothing left of Scotland and we’ll be ruled over by the Tories in London for generations.

    It’s now or never.🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    • I don’t agree it’s now or never…

      Future generations of Scots won’t have the fear taught to our older people by British tv and Westminster and britnat newspapers the fear that Scotland is stupid poor and incapable our older generation revere the Union Jack they think it’s strong safe reliable trustworthy and blame every catastrophe heaped upon them by it as someone else’s doing .
      They are a shrinking bunch of moaning minnies you won’t change them leave them to it.
      The rest of us , the majority in Scotland move on to independence

  5. Alex Clark says:

    Pleased to hear the good news on the new home front and the continuing progress in your recovery from the stroke, even if gradual it’s progress all the same.

    So far, nothing is going right for this UK government in any area and that is not at all surprising given the reprobates who are in charge of running the UK and the leader that they follow.

    It may be that come the May election in Scotland, Johnson is gone anyway and no matter who this lot then put in charge they are doomed to make the same mistake after mistake that he made with regard to Scotland.

    There is no denying their incompetence to govern and that Scotland will be better governed by those that Scots elect to govern them. We shouldn’t let up though, the pressure must remain in fighting for a second referendum that will be recognised as legitimate by the rest of the world.

    As you point out, the Tories attempt to deny democracy, and the will of the Scottish people is doomed to fail and that recognition from the rest of the world will be easily obtained. They are not as blind to democracy as this dysfunctional Tory government appears to be.

    We are well on the road to Independence, I can only see support increasing. Let’s not be deflected by false flags for there will be plenty, we stick together and the finishing line is in sight with Scotland crossing first. We are winning and will get a second wind when the next campaign begins.

    No wonder Dross is throwing in the towel and burstin the ba. He knows the games over already.

  6. Bob Lamont says:

    Glad to hear of continued recovery and the imminent flit to Buntyland East, you two will be still searching in boxes in July, long after Bunty & Co realise Catholics are coming in via Anglesey and recall Mason Boyne to duty…
    You ignored one minor aspect of “civil unrest” vv Indy/Holyrood elections, by then England will be beyond reaching of aspirin and spitfires for what ails, the DM construct will burst apart…….

  7. Dr Jim says:

    Warm water waggling Paul, many years ago I had a nasty accident which tore muscle from my forearm, apart from the usual tennis ball squeezing that comes later I initially dooked my hand in basins of warm water and found that waggling my fingers was made easier and less painful, it might work for you, you’d have to give it a wee go and see if you get any benefit, but I did find the elastic bands wrapped not too tightly round the fingers helped with the early wagglings, kinda Mr Spock style

    • Liz g says:

      Please don’t do that or anything like that Paul.
      Sorry Dr Jim but you are so very wrong in your well ment advice.
      You are speaking as having recovered from an arm INJURY Dr Jim.
      Nothing has happened to Paul’s arm

      Paul there’s nothing, not a thing wrong with your hand , leg , or vision.
      It’s ( as I hope you’re been told the connection that’s been disrupted).
      How it was explained to me was that it was like a TV set …. if the Ariel is unplugged….. there’s not a thing wrong with the TV and it needs no repair but there will be no pictures till that Ariel connection is established again.

      That’s why you’re tired your brain is trying to connect the pathways OR find another one…..and it will… think of how much brain power is unused in humans evidenced by the elderly being able still to learn.
      Also think of how long it takes a baby to become a toddler… that’s their brain finding and establishing a pathway to instruct movement.
      So keep trying to pick things up with the affected hand and do it in the first instance every time,keep issuing that command to the brain and give it the chance to find the signal path.
      The only time you would need movement of the kind Dr Jim suggests is if your muscles started to atrophy and your physo will be on the case if that looked likely and from what you are saying that’s no going to happen any way.
      Yes your muscle might get a bit weaker from not being used but we do have muscle memory too and you’ve plenty of time to find that as well ..
      Wee bit o patience here Paul you’ll get there 🙂

  8. Alex Clark says:

    So no surprise to hear that London will be going into the most severe restriction Tier 3 from 1 minute past midnight on Wednesday. In effect, this means that all pubs and restaurants will be closed but that’s about it for the difference between tier 2 and tier 3 in England.

    What that means in reality in the run up to Xmas and the Boxing day Sales is that the shops and the main shopping streets are likely to still be overcrowded. People from not just London but the surrounding areas will be using public transport to get in and out of the centre of London.

    Full lockdown is surely unavoidable again in the near future, better to be canny, as is the case in Scotland because this hokey-cokey with restrictions is surely a failure. Do not forget, England came out of a 4 week FULL lockdown just 12 days ago. The peasants are revolting and are just no longer following the guidelines in enough numbers and that’s why cases are on the rise even in tier 3 levels like Kent. Very few are listening to the mixed messages which is not a surprise given the number of members of the cabinet and NO 10 advisors that thought the rules didn’t apply to them.

    England’s Trump and the trumpeteers in his party are the ones responsible, he will pay the price for his folly eventually, unfortunately, it will be the ordinary members of the public who pay the price in the coming weeks nad months.

  9. You seem to be making great progress Paul. Keep up the good work. It was lovely to ‘see’ you take part on the Big Indy Night In on Saturday. Take care.

  10. Republicofscotland says:

    The Tories and the British nationalists in Scotland know that they’re going to lose the next indyref, the only way they can win now is by nobbling the votes, such as the postal votes, so watch out for the British state interfering in that department come the indyref. I wouldn’t be surprised if that how Brexit came about.

    The British state has had years to hone its election interfering skills in countries such as Kenya.

  11. Legerwood says:

    Good to hear you are making progress. When you feel tired then sit down, put your feet up and have a nap.

  12. andyfromdunning says:

    I agree we must use peaceful civil disobedience and disrupt WM when the time is right. We must also do this in England so that the U.K. media pick it up. As an example a couple of hundred people could disrupt an underground train line for 30 mins in rush hour. We will need to stir it up to get our message to a wide audience.

    • How about a Million Scots AUOB march on London at Easter during Easter Week?
      Clog up England’s motorways.

      I am fighting mad. I’d need a wheel chair, but by the Chief I’m up for it.
      Or perhaps I could be part of a motorised support unit paralleling the March to Freedom on England’s A roads.
      Rolls’n’ square slice and tar tea anyone?

      The Scots Spring?

      • Stephen McKenzie says:

        God Jack that’s fighting talk..

        I have some Tunnocks Tea Cakes cakes for when the going gets tough on the long march south, and between you and me I still have some of the old proper Bru stashed away ..

        • And Ayton Sandwich biscuits, and any on Beatie’s Biscuit range.
          And lashings of American Cream Soda, to get all Enid Blyton about it.
          I’m looking forward to the Scottish Spring Action now.
          We are within weeks of crocus speckled parks as I write. The time is now.

    • Welsh Siôn says:

      Let SNP London Branch know when you’re coming … 🙂

      • You’ll hear the thundering of marching feet as far away as Crewe, WS.
        I am really deadly serious.
        We need something bi, and headline grabbing throughout the world.
        Just think how many exiled scots and true English democrats would dip in and out of the March as it passed through their town city or county.
        The Cherry Blossom Army?

  13. Welsh Siôn says:

    I don’t know how this affects you there in Scotland, but be aware of how Westminster under cover of Brexit and Coronavirus are continually chipping away at what democracy we do have.

    I’ll leave you the complete article this time.

    ____________

    https://nation.cymru/news/wales-voice-diminished-number-of-welsh-mps-reduced-by-eight-from-40-to-32/

    ‘Wales’ voice diminished’: Number of Welsh MPs reduced by eight from 40 to 32

    14th December 2020

    New legislation which finished its passage through Westminster today has reduced the number of MPs in Wales by eight, from 40 to 32.

    The Government’s Parliamentary Constituencies Act has received Royal Assent, which means the geographical boundaries of constituencies will be redrawn based on population size.

    Despite Wales losing 20% of its representatives the number of MPs across the UK will stay the same, at 650.

    The independence movement YesCymru said that the change meant that Wales would have less of a voice at Westminster.

    “And so Wales’ voice in Westminster is diminished to the point of inconsequence,” they said.

    “The lie that there’s any form of parity amongst the Nations of these islands is finally put to bed.”

    Plaid Cymru said that “Wales will lose out more than any other nation in the UK as a result of this law – with our voice and representation diminished. Westminster just isn’t working for Wales.”

    The Boundary Commissions for Wales will begin drawing up the new constituency sizes starting in January 2021.

    This will take into account five protected constituencies which must remain as they are out of geographical necessity – including Ynys Môn.

    The Commission must present its final report to the Speaker of the House of Commons by 1 July 2023.

    ‘Fairer’

    Constitution Minister, Chloe Smith, said that the changes would ensure that “every vote counts the same”.

    “Up-to-date, more equally sized constituencies is a sensible policy that will make our elections fairer, ensuring that people from all four nations of the UK have equal representation in Parliament,” she said.

    Other changes will give Prime Minister Boris Johnson the power to call an early election.

    The Fixed-Term Parliaments Act 2011 took away the prime minister’s power to hold an early election without the approval of MPs, but will now be scrapped.

    The next Westminster election is currently scheduled for 2 May 2024.

    • Capella says:

      Let’s face it – Westminster is the parliament of England. None of us should be there at all.
      2021 is the year to quit this pretendy democracy.

    • Dr Jim says:

      Now you know why the populations of the other Nations in the precious has always been deliberately kept artificially low with our populations emigrating to other countries while England were encouraging immigration to theirs, we used to call it the brain drain when I was a kid, work hard pass your exams and go to London for a good job because there are none in Scotland

      That wasn’t an accidental occurrence then and they’re still doing it now

      • In Sean Connery’s Documentary The Bowler and the Bunnet’ describing England’s destruction of Shipbuilding on the Clyde, Connery refers to Scotland’s population as five million. This was made in 1965, and has been dredged up by BBC Scotland, the Poundland of broadcasting, this week as a Christmas Stocking filler.
        So in 55 years, Scotland’s population has remained static.
        I give up checking England’s population in ’65, but in 1971 it was 46,411,000′ Today, 56,287,000.
        And 18% of Scotland has been cleared so that Filthy rich Lairds and the Oligarchy can kill wild animals fo sadistic fun.

        Colonial Clearances by any other name.

        Time to get tae…

    • andyfromdunning says:

      Plan WS is to reduce Scottish MP numbers from 59 to 53.

    • grizebard says:

      As Capella has said. Whether there are 59 or 53 Scottish MPs, the native denizens of the English Parliament will ignore all of them just the same, so democracy is a sham whatever the non-zero number.

      But disruption of proceedings? – oh yes please, high time. Then they’ll notice, and their reaction will open even more eyes up here.

  14. robert alexander harrison says:

    The English politicians are gonna get really desperate to keep Scotland at any cost now the section 30 contradicts the uk governments own words when they rejected a petition to to dissolve the union which they wrote we reject this petition because its a descison for the people of Scotland to decide not the UK government or parliament they put that in writing.

    • Golfnut says:

      Yes I remember seeing that on fb, Dross now saying that Tories will boycott indyref 2 even if the courts judge it to be legal. Point 1, no mention of a section 30, Point 2, acceptance that indyref 2 will happen.

  15. Capella says:

    Great to hear your recovery continues. Don’t stress about posting new articles. We seem to chat amongst ourselves quite easily. If the thread getsTOO long then chuck another article up. There is certainly plenty of material out there from those world beating liars in Westminster.

  16. dorancaird says:

    It sounds to me that you are making amazing progress post stroke. I was involved in stroke rehab and one woman actually went on to independent living after 2 years when very little recovery seemed to be taking place in hospital. I often think of her as an example of the mysterious workings of the human brain. Get better every day Paul. “Your country needs you”

  17. malkymcblain says:

    A human chain along the border in the summer from the Solway to the Tweed would require ~ 80,000 souls spaced at 1 metre apart to cover the length. Bring tents, weans, dugs and supplies. Civil disobedience would be the trespassing on private land but hey it’s Scotland and it’s oor land onyway.

    I could just imagine the world media flying over in choppers and drones filming the event. That’s how we get the attention of the world…me thinks…what say you?

    • That works too, Malky.
      Gather ’round the camp fire. All together now,

      ‘Ging gang goolie goolie goolie goolie watcha,
      Ging gang goo, ging gang goo.’

      • malkymcblain says:

        Jack I’m sure the 155 kilometre long chain of campfires would be visible at night from the international space station….now that would be a sight to behold! Ging gang goolie

    • A Bruce says:

      Good idea malky. If Covid is still with us you would only need half that number with social distancing. You could have a nationwide sewing bee making sections of a 155km long saltire banner that could be tied together by the participants. It would look brilliant and sure to grab world media attention.

    • grizebard says:

      I’m surprised that no-one has already mentioned this, but trespassing has no standing in Scots Law, it’s purely an English notion. Because it really is our land. (In essence, people must only respect privacy space in the neighbourhood of dwellings.)

      A great notion, though. I like the (revitalised) idea of an indy march in London as well.

      Jeez, the very idea of getting together again once we’re “liberated” from the virus is a real tonic. The first such communal event, whatever form it takes, will be an absolute blast!

    • Albis says:

      Like the 3 Baltic states’ human chain in 1989, 2 million people across 420 miles!

  18. Alex Clark says:

    French fishing boats threaten to blockade the port of Calais if they are denied the right to fish in the Channel by the Royal Navy. No ferry’s in or out from Dover.

    Oh dear, I don’t think that the UK government have actually realised that actions have consequences.

  19. Alex Clark says:

    There is a new strain of the virus in London and that South East and according to Hancock may explain the reason for the rapid rise in infections. Nothing to do with the fact that half the population fail to wear masks in shops and ignore the rules to self isolate even when infected.

    That’s not the fault of those that can’t afford to self isolate that’s the fault of government policy. I’m afraid we will keep going round in circles in and out of lockdown for many months unless the government gets its act together. Since that isn’t going to happen we can only hope that the Scottish government remains as cautious as they have been.

    STV reporting too that this new strain of the virus could be “problematic”. It’s Johnson’s government that is “problematic” nothing else.

  20. yesindyref2 says:

    Next important step towards Indy Ref 2, is Mike Russell asking the Electoral Commission if they can test the Question without face to face – and to do so.

  21. yesindyref2 says:

    Nice one. Who can see what’s wrong with this headline dated 6 November 2020?

    Six months until voters go to the polls in Great Britain

    https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/media-centre/six-months-until-voters-go-polls-great-britain

    The Electoral Commission is the independent body which …

    Riiight, if you say so. No propaganda from them, then.

    Incidentally, having the Question validated by the EC will make it very hard for the Tory Party in Scotland to reasonably boycott an Indy Ref with the question approved by them.

  22. Eilidh says:

    I see George Foulkes that twerp of a Labour Lord has raised further complaints about NS fronting the covid briefings on tv. What a despicable bitter old man and what an embarassment to Labour.

  23. Dr Jim says:

    If anyone cares to look closely they will see that George Galloway has finally shown his cards that he is in complete and total agreement with the Bathistan Chronicle and its author and if you check out Utube Mr Galloway even repeats the same rhetoric word for word

    Oh what a surprise I’m shocked stunned and even amazed, eh no I’m not

    • grizebard says:

      When a self-claimed pro-indy site provides the underpinning for a disreputable parasitical washed-up BritNat has-been, you can easily see that something has gone badly wrong somewhere. The only question remaining is whether it’s egregiously misjudged or sinisterly deliberate.

  24. malkymcblain says:

    What a match the latter day reverend I M Jolly of Bath and the twat in the hat Galloway…ye couldny make it up.

  25. yesindyref2 says:

    I was maybe missing the wood for the trees in that Survation poll.

    Nov Table 15: https://cdn.survation.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/06130906/Survation-Political-Poll-06-November-2020-Data-Tables-1.xlsx

    Dec Table 8: https://cdn.survation.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/14100842/Survation-Scotland-Political-Poll-December-2020-1-2.xlsx

    (excluding undecideds)

    Female YES Nov 57.2%, Dec 58% (same)
    Male YES Nov 51.4%, Dec 45% – sharp drop of 6.4% points

    Thanks to “Brian” btl on SGP for that one. I couldn’t even begin to guess why Female has stayed the same, but Male dropped so much. Ho hum.

    • ‘Don’t hit me with those negative waves so early in the morning.’
      yesindyref2, you come on here, regularly, in an attempt to spread negative contamination, from another place.

      We are within days of Eurmageddon.

      Johnson is a madman, and his Followers, including the 6 Jock Placemen, are hell bent on destroying our country, Scotland.
      There is no time to stop by the wayside and discuss your petty, ‘ah, buts’.
      Therefore this is my last exchange with you, and others who have seeped into this excellent site.
      The above is a quote from Donald Sutherland’s tank commander ‘hippie’ from ‘Kelly’s Heroes’.

      There are plenty of Black Arts Brit Nat sites which you can visit if you wish to indulge in ‘SNP/YES has peaked’ crap.

      Away and enjoy Christmas, and hope for a brand bright new day come Scottish Spring.

      Your half empty doggerel would test the patience of Job.

      We shall expend no more energy discussing Self Determination with ‘Yes Butters’.
      There will be serious civil unrest in mid winter.

      • ArtyHetty says:

        The BritNats are terrified, they know that the people of Scotland will vote to exit UK especially when Brexit kicks in and people see the rioting hoards in England, and have to stand in huge queues to get a few basics at the shops. I don’t think too many people in Scotland relish the thought of being imprisoned in an insular, narrow minded, backward, destructive, far right wing UK.

        Was looking at the Ikea site for something and saw they are having problems with some of their distribution and delivery, looks like it’s an issue of queues at the ports in England?

        The idea of independence gathering at the border sounds a good idea, when feasible. I wouldn’t touch London with a bargepole though, they’d just beat people to a pulp given half a chance. Any disruption to their underground etc would not go down well at all and would just lose any sympathy (if it exists) for Scotland’s independence movement?

        Aside the UKEngGov being based in London, it’s not very important to Scotland or independence, focus on Scotland, and bring the border and therefore the fact the UK is not just one ‘country’ (as the BritNats like to fool people into believing) to the attention of people outwith Scotland. It’s the fact that Scotland’s independence movement is peaceful, that garners so much support from rEU etc…I could be wrong, but taking any protests(?) to London might not be worth the time, energy and money. Positivity is key, and likely too risky re agent provocateurs being deployed if demo’s were held in London. It would be easy for the BritNats to orchestrate violence and televise it to label and portray those attending peacefully as anti peace etc. Just a thought.

        Talking of S of England, their numbers of Covid infection are now huge, it’s not so long ago that people were gathering as if there was no pandemic, in cities like London, their government have a heck of a lot to answer for.
        Scotland needs to close the border and anyone coming into Scotland must quarantine for however long is required, it’s absolutely crucial.

        • I am just throwing it out there, ArtyHetty.

          In France every sunmmer, every hamlet, village town and city mounts a music festival.

          One Year, by happenstance, we holidayed in Riec Sur Belon during this fabulous festival of joy ..the early ‘nineties if I recall.

          A Festival of Music for Freedom throughout Scotland in April ’21 would do it for me as an alternative, or in conjunction with other mass events.

          We need ‘something big’, that the Brit Nats cannot ignore or slap a D Notice on.
          The Proclaimers at Murrayfield?
          Through Celtic Connections the Yes Movement could contact musicians from all over the globe inviting them to take part…

          We need to up the ante…A Joyous festival of light, screaming WE ARE SCOTLAND ! can’t hurt.

          A AUOB mass gathering coupled with thumpin’ Bluegrass Breton and Barrowfield tunes would fail to pass unnoticed by the watching world.
          Andre Rieu and his Johann Strauss Orchestra performing in Edinburgh Aberdeen and live at Hampden Park? What’s not to like or dare to imagine?

          But we need more than ‘happy clappy’ events, ArtyHetty.

          I eschew the term ‘civil disobedience’.

          We Scots are not ‘disobeying’ when we assert our basic human right to self determination by refusing to accept the false premise that 56 million English citizens have the right to deny or allow us to hold a plebiscite on Self Determination.
          I need ‘obey’ no English Nationalist ‘junta’ ( who are launching the gunboats now) who frankly consider Scotland to be a militarily conquered colony of the English Empire, and as Rees Mogg and others have demonstrated even more overtly over the past few weeks, will be forced out of Europe and surrounded by Priti Patel’s barbed wire fence and English Homeland Security patrols come 1st January 2021, which is now, 16 days away.

          WE are not disobeying England. We are taking our country Scotland back.

  26. Juteman says:

    I disagree that after a Yes vote the SNP MPs should disrupt the Westminster parliament.
    The day after a Yes vote, every SNP MP should stand up in Westminster, and announce they are leaving to go home and help govern Scotland. The other Scottish MPs are welcome to follow.

    • yesindyref2 says:

      Absolutely not.

      After the YES vote is when the SNP MPs will be their most useful IN Westminster, asking questions, harrying, correcting, voting everything to do with the post-YES negotiations for Independent Scotland. They’ll earn every penny of their wages.

      They will be the frontline, along with the negotiators.

      • Juteman says:

        They would just be ignored, as they are now.

        • yesindyref2 says:

          Hendry did grab the mace on his way out. Maybe the SNP should do an A-team job on actually disappearing it:

          https://www.parliament.uk/site-information/glossary/mace/

          The mace in Parliament is the symbol of royal authority and without it neither House can meet or pass laws.

          I didn’t suggest that of course, it’s probably treason!

          Saw your comment on SGP about SS. The unionists are targetting long-standing posters, trying to discredit us. Good! Let them try. Such a panic is in their breasties. Unfortunately they’re aided and abetted by some paranoid Indy supporters. Shrug.

  27. Capella says:

    ICYMI – I posted this on the previous thread before I realised a new article was up. Seems appropriate here – from the TLS,

    An astonishing demolition of Boris Johnston by Rory Stewart;

    Johnson is after all the most accomplished liar in public life – perhaps the best liar ever to serve as prime minister. Some of this may have been a natural talent – but a lifetime of practice and study has allowed him to uncover new possibilities which go well beyond all the classifications of dishonesty attempted by classical theorists like St Augustine. He has mastered the use of error, omission, exaggeration, diminution, equivocation and flat denial. He has perfected casuistry, circumlocution, false equivalence and false analogy. He is equally adept at the ironic jest, the fib and the grand lie; the weasel word and the half-truth; the hyperbolic lie, the obvious lie, and the bullshit lie – which may inadvertently be true. And because he has been so famous for this skill for so long, he can use his reputation to ascend to new levels of playful paradox. Thus he could say to me “Rory, don’t believe anything I am about to say, but I would like you to be in my cabinet” – and still have me laugh in admiration.

    https://www.the-tls.co.uk/articles/boris-johnson-tom-bower-book-review-rory-stewart/

    • Alex Clark says:

      Rory the Tory sees the light. A bit late, but I suppose he could be forgiven for admitting the truth, that the man he served under in the cabinet is a charlatan, a buffoon and an out and out psychopathic liar!

      You see it on his face every single time he appears in front of the cameras, in every interview he ever gives you will see him lie. A wee hint of a smile appears as the lie begins, his eyes light up and he absolutely delights in telling the lie. Lying gives him great joy, it’s the thought of doing something naughty and getting away with it that tickles him.

      He is utterly incapable of honesty and yet he is Prime Minister of the UK. Go figure.

    • grizebard says:

      The assessment is all very accurate, but one can’t help but observe that were Rory the Tory the PM instead of BoJo the Clown, the position of Scotland in the damned Union wouldn’t be an iota different. Likely worse, since he is far more competent and credible. I might be far more impressed if his honesty extended to an equally-accurate analysis of Scotland’s shabby treatment over the years by London, and most egregiously of late by his own party colleagues (not merely BoJo) in the current UKGov, and publicly conclude that a new independence referendum is not only justified but inevitable.

  28. Republicofscotland says:

    O/T.

    Here’s hoping Trump does the right thing before he leaves.

    https://www.ibtimes.co.in/trump-mulling-julian-assanges-pardon-days-before-leaving-white-house-831185

  29. GEORGE White says:

    when refering to boris we should always say or write boris and his cronies because next year he will be dumped and the shitstorm will be blamed on him while his cronieswill continue to scre w the country

    • Bob Lamont says:

      Very true

    • diabloandco says:

      I think calling him Johnson is better than pretending he’s a pal by calling him Boris. The man is a shit of the first water and that is the nicest thing I can say about him.

      • Bob Lamont says:

        By all means, but I believe the point of “boris and his cronies” was to ensure the entire rotten cabal is labelled and isn’t ignored when the charlatan outlives his “usefulness”, probably directly…

      • grizebard says:

        I always call him “BoJo” or “BoZo” myself, as in “BoJo the Clown”.

        But the point of “… and cronies” is valid. Gove, for example, is far more slippery, even less sincere and far more dangerous. (And I wouldn’t dream of ever referring to him as “Mikey”.)

  30. Dr Jim says:

    The Unionists are as usual using any information that comes out making it appear that the Scottish SNP government and indeed Scotland as a whole is bad, at the moment the drug deaths in Scotland have become a thing again, of course if you happen to overdose and die in England of a GP prescribed drug that death is not counted as a drugs related death because those drugs were legal drugs and so good drugs

    In Scotland all deaths by any drug legal or illegal are counted the same, now I don’t know if there are percentages of more or less of each kinds of deaths in whichever country because that’s kinda not what’s very important, what is important is the government in Scotland says they have a plan to tackle and reduce all deaths in this area but the authority to carry out that plan is reserved to Westminster and they refuse to *allow* permission to the Scottish government to carry out that plan

    It doesn’t take a genius to work this one out I remember vividly when the media just couldn’t stop themselves pointing out that England was dealing with A&E attendances quicker than Scotland’s hospitals until everyone found out that the clock in England didn’t start ticking until after the patient had been triaged but in Scotland the timer begins as soon as a patient registers on walking in the door, meaning a patient in an English hospital A&E could be waiting any amount of uncountable hours before treatment ever began, we don’t know, and that’s the whole point when you set about deceiving the public over figures, you create the system to be unaccountable by making it uncountable

    Julie Etchingham of ITV news did the most heavily edited interview I’ve ever seen with Nicola Sturgeon a couple nights ago wherein Etchingham asked questions and appeared to get no answers from the FM yet we all know that Scotland’s FM is prepared to answer any and all questions on any subject at any time but in this interview where she was attacked on health education and drugs Nicola Sturgeon *appeared* to have no answers, and this is and always was the problem with recorded interviews, the media chop and crop them to achieve their desired effect

    Scotland’s problems with the media and its shenanigans have been long documented but if I were advising our government on media coms I would be strongly suggesting that unless such interviews are being broadcast live they should not take part in them at all because when the media chop and crop them later for reshowing there’s no original reference to prove what they got up to in the edit

    I have been closely watching the EU reps avoiding the same folly when it comes to *British* broadcasters, they must have sussed this out a long time ago, but of course if you’re foreign you can get away with saying the British are untrustworthy but if you’re only a colony of Britain like Scotland you apparently become a Nazi if you tell the truth about British behaviour

    Remember now good people of England every country in the world is out to get you and you’re the bestest country in the world and all the rest are evil and bad especially verminous Scotland who only exists because of your largesse and all they want to do is steal all your money, and that’s why your glorious government right here in England refuses to let them go, because *we love them*?

    Are you still buying that England?

    • Legerwood says:

      Dr Jim,
      I am not sure that you are correct when you say that the drug-related deaths in Scotland include prescription drugs. Heroin/morphine, methadone, cocaine ectasy are among the drugs listed in the report and some benzodiazopams.

      Here is a link to the report, see what you think

      https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/statistics-and-data/statistics/statistics-by-theme/vital-events/deaths/drug-related-deaths-in-scotland/2019

      • Alex Clark says:

        Methadone is a prescription drug and “was implicated in, or potentially contributed” to 560 of the deaths. There are other prescription drugs that have contributed to the total death figures “prescribable’ benzodiazepines (such as diazepam) 195 deaths”.

        Also, the report includes deaths due to alcohol which for 2019 numbered 137.

        • Legerwood says:

          But are the people getting their hands on them via prescriptions? Or is it via some other route? It seemed to me from a very quick scan of the article that ‘prescription drugs’ covered a very limited range and not the whole library of prescription drugs.

          The age ranges were also interesting suggesting that some, possibly a majority, had been long time users. If that is the case then they would be the most difficult to wean off drugs and any intervention to get them off drugs should have been available some time ago.

          The worrying increase is in the much younger age group where hopefully early intervention and new procedures being trialled will nip that in the bud. But the SG is once more hamstrung in its best endeavours by limits on the cash available and limits on the powers available to it. In a word Westminster.

      • Dr Jim says:

        Two years ago Bristol was designated the Cocaine capital of Europe but because far fewer people die of that particular *recreation* drug it’s effects are ignored
        There was so much Cocaine in use that after a weekend when tested, the waterways surrounding Bristol showed a high level of Cocaine content because the sewage systems can’t filter it out

        People were and are literally peeing out Cocaine after a weekends *recreation* in that city

        • grizebard says:

          Hmmm, yeah, there’s definitely an “upstairs-downstairs” aspect to UK drug policy. One can’t help but wonder what the result would be of testing the effluent (liquid, that is, not verbal) emanating from The Palace of Westminster…

  31. Capella says:

    The BBC article “Five ways to tackle Scotland’s drug crisis” does state that drugs law is reserved to Westminster and that Scottish MPs have tried to get English MPs to agree to allow methods known to cure the drugs problem but the English Parliament refuses all appeals.
    The solution is self evident.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-48921696

    Of course there is also the fact that statistics in Scotland are calculated differently. IIRC all deaths where drugs are involved are counted as drugs related, even if you were run over by a car for example.

  32. Alex Clark says:

    Drug abuse in Scotland is a real and increasing problem. It is a fact that how these figures are arrived at differ in all EU countries and that deaths due to drug abuse are not directly comparable between countries.

    However, I believe that in Scotland it is a very serious problem and needs to be better addressed by the Scottish government. It is true that in many areas their hands are tied in what they can and cannot do because drugs legislation is reserved to Westminister.

    There is plenty they can do that doesn’t involve changing the law but that costs money, potentially lots of money and again Scotland is limited by the lack of borrowing power and the fact that they must balance the books and work within the restraints of the pocket money provided by Westminster in the form of the block grant.

    In saying all that though, I think that more should be spent in tackling drug abuse, it is something that needs tackling and we shouldn’t shy away from dealing with difficult issues.

    • Capella says:

      It is well established by research and example, such as Portugal where the problem has disappeared, that decriminalisation is the only answer. That is a solution reserved to Westminster. Currently.

  33. Capella says:

    Looking at the graph on page 9 of the NRS report, there is a steep increase in drug related deaths after 2014. What happened in 2014 and continues to the present that could account for that?
    Hopelessness?
    The solution is self- evident.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-48921696

  34. Dr Jim says:

    Jobs in Scotland are on the up reports the BBC and so good in fact that Scotland is doing better than England
    Now there’s a funny thing because normally at every other time the BBC is never done telling us that Scotland is always behind England on that front so I wonder why the change of fortunes in Scotland, could it be that the SNP Scottish government have been warning us constantly about the job losses to come because of Brexit but the Tories have been telling us the opposite that Scotland will fare well with Brexit

    Am I being media cynical again, you betcha I am

  35. yesindyref2 says:

    Okey-doke. It takes time sometimes reaching the interesting conclusion with “analysis”, which is why it’s far more productive if people interact in an intelligent way, as should indeed happen on forums but these days, very rarely does, including sadly on SGP, the Indy home of poll analysis, despite the best desperate efforts of James Kelly. Even one of its best btl posters (SS) has been sucked in, constantly under attack from trolls.

    Thing is this, that during Indy Ref 1, much was made of the cautious female vote which, in opinion polls and in the actual result, lagged behind the male YES vote. Huge efforts were made to attract that female vote. For that reason, as I have had the feeling for a long time that it is women will lead us to freedom, I was delighted Sturgeon took over, and even voted unsuccessfully for Constance as depute to give it a 1-2. Remember the GFA and the determined and brave women who made it happen.

    It turns out that in both November and December Survation, undecided males were 10% but females 16%. But the far more interesting point is that in both polls only 35% of females were NO voters, and I think that is worth as much as the whole series of YES majority polls. Only just over 1 in 3 are NO voters, and I know several that don’t actually support the union, they just want to be convinced they won’t be worse off. Well, in a few short weeks they should notice that within the Union they ARE worse off.

    Us males are a doddle. When I was single as long as I had enough in my back pocket to go to the pub, whoopee, the world was just fine. Some at least are the same 🙂

    Keep that female YES vote and work on the 16% undecided. Where women lead, men will follow.

    • Dr Jim says:

      It always has been thus

    • grizebard says:

      I’m not convinced that James does consistently apply “desperate efforts” to deal with trolls. He tolerated the odious GWC for ages, and only took drastic action when the trolling became pornographic. He cut off everyone but Google signups thereby pointlessly decimating the positive contributers, and now has a new set of trolls (outright BritNat and fellow-travelling WaS monomaniacs) which he is again allowing to run riot, leaving scarcely more than the admirable SS to rebut. Posting rate of new articles is currently also low. It’s a great shame, I just hope he’s still OK.

      • Dr Jim says:

        It appears to be mostly the same Trolls almost everywhere the word Independence is uttered now and more incensed and vile than ever before

        I reckon that’s frantic panic, if they thought they were winning they’d be mocking in glorious victory but it’s mostly pretty horrible angry stuff and the women SNP reps get the filth aimed at them, A sure indicator we’re winning

        It’s all a bit like the levels of grief and they’re on the last one, abuse!

        • grizebard says:

          How true.

          What beats me are the ones who think that by constantly telling us how useless we all are, they can somehow convince us that we’re all pals together really. They obviously sense a potential weakness in a long-inculcated lack of Scottish self-confidence, but that’s ebbing now and totally absent among the young, so the inherent contradiction is becoming starker by the day. As they become more and more rattled, the mask is slipping more and more, and what lies behind is becoming steadily more visible. And thereby they increasingly undo themselves.

          Then of course we win.

          • Dr Jim says:

            The same policy of aggression is being used by the Tories in Westminster towards our MPs yet another indicator of fear of losing

  36. I wouldn’t take hypothetical planning exercises post May 2021 too far. After the then resident of No.10 Downing Street refuses a S30 order the dynamic will develop into a cycle of response and counter-response. Planning beyond the initial response will likely be useless. Flexibility will be key.
    The most useful model is perhaps the downfall of the Stasi state through mass mobilisation in Leipzig. Every Monday evening peaceful crowds would gather demanding change. Arrests were made and skulls were split, but the crowds just grew. 70k became 120k and the regime fell.
    The main point is to dictate the tempo. Large, periodic displays such as AUOB can be ignored (Daniel O’Connel drew Europe’s largest per capita demonstration at Tara and achieved little, the horrific suppression of the Catalan IndyRef was seen (incorrectly) by Paris & Berlin as a one off event (they could afford to ignore)).
    We have the advantage that Polis Scotland take a vow to the Scottish people, not the Crown. If demonstrations are to be suppressed, Westminster will have to supply the thugs from their own resources.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monday_demonstrations_in_East_Germany

    • grizebard says:

      You seem to be assuming that the only action in the near future will be on the streets, and if the current political stagnation persists, that will surely be a component of resistance to come, at least once people here achieve a similar level of rejection of the status quo as was the case in the late unlamented DDR. But I fully expect that the current political stagnation won’t continue, especially after the May election result, provided that it is decisive for indy. Which is why the BritNats and their proxies are so desperate to undermine that potential outcome right now.

    • Bob Lamont says:

      Any who equate the Catalan scenario to that of Scotland are a screw short of an entire workshop, but to insert the Stasi into the analysis is absurd. There is no similarity WHATSOEVER between the two regimes.
      To commence with “I wouldn’t take hypothetical planning exercises…” then proceed to create such an absurd simile is not pro-Indy, quite the opposite…

    • Hamish100 says:

      East Germany fell 30 years ago. We are not EG. Peaceful may take longer but it is still peaceful. Remember Citizen Smith was really a Tory!!

    • Now listen, Dougal, one last time,East Germany, Catalonia, are far away. Scotland is close up.
      Why let perspective get in the way of a spurious compare and contrast straw man?

    • Vivianoblivian.,..nah…won’t happen like that

  37. Dr Jim says:

    I have a feeling that when the actual campaign begins it’ll really be for the campaign against Independence to make the effort to oppose rather than the Pro side making much out of it, after all YES is now the majority of the will of the people not the other way round as has been in the past, the majority of Scotland has already decided what we are having why do we need to protest, really we should have the attitude towards the NO camp of *go on then show us what you’ve got* and I believe that they won’t be able to

    They can’t promise us our place in Europe this time, they can’t offer the broad shoulders because everybody and their dug knows it’s all borrowed, they can’t offer us the security of *their* economy the ££££ because they’ve bust it, they can’t offer us their defence because they know we don’t want that, they can’t tell us we’ll make our relatives in England foreigners because we know that’s pish, they can’t tell us all the scary health lies that Gordon Brown cooked up from his graveyard kitchen bungalow adjacent the village of Highwater just past Hell

    They’ve got shit all left to sell, they’re a busted flush, are they going to go on the flagship BBC channel 9 that only has 4000 viewers and rant at us while we all laugh and the rest of Scotland is watching Netflix

    Oh while I remember a wee birdy has told me that BBCs other Bird who packed it in is on the way back to the glorious channel, so the Yoonyawn campaign must be about to get underway, what’ll it be Jackie, Scotland Max?

  38. iainmore lost says:

    I would like to believe you. I am short in trust when it comes to the SNP right the now. I also happen to think that the present Tory Govt in Westmidden is being run by psychopaths and sociopaths and they will spill blood to keep us on our knees performing oral sex for them. I am thus not optimistic about 2021.

  39. Republicofscotland says:

    The Lord Advocate is still attempting to block whether or not we need a S30 order, even though it might be outwith his remit.

    I am writing to advise you about a small development in the case.
    As I have said to you on a number of occasions, the Lord Advocate, who was called in this case to represent the interests of the Scottish Parliament by a qwerk of constitutional madness, is also a member of the Scottish cabinet (Scottish Government).
    We called him to represent parliament, not the Scottish Government. This is why we separately called the Scottish Ministers on their own. The reason we did this was to stop a conflict of interest with respect to the separation of powers, namely because the interests of the Government and the interests of Parliament are not always the same.
    The Scottish Government entered proceedings, then dropped out (we don’t have to recount that particular saga for you) but it seems that the Lord Advocate has continued to advance matters of the Scottish Government despite them having withdrawn. The Scottish Government Legal Directorate also seems to be deeply involved in directing the Lord Advocate.
    It is right and proper to be clear as to precisely what “hat” the Lord Advocate is now wearing in his continued defence to this action. The Lord Advocate’s defence substantively mirrors and repeats the now withdrawn defences of the Scottish Ministers. The Lord Advocate in these circumstances is constitutionally obliged to clarify to the court whether he is, in his maintained defence:
    (1) acting as a representative of the Scottish Government (of which he is a member under Section 44(1)(c) of the Scotland Act 1998; or
    (2) distinct from the statutorily guaranteed independence of his decision-making function in his capacity as head of the systems of criminal prosecution and investigation of deaths in Scotland under Section 45(5) of the Scotland Act 1998, he is acting in the broader public interest as defender of the Scottish Parliament independently of the Scottish Government.
    He cannot act as both.
    In a number of hearings (and written documents) we have reasonably asked the Lord Advocate to tell us whether he is acting for the Scottish Parliament or whether he is acting for the Scottish Government (who I repeat have supposedly withdrawn).
    He has declined to answer when called upon to do so.
    We, therefore have concerns that he may be trying to act as a jack of all trades, and a master of none, which could be detrimental to both the Scottish Government and the Scottish Parliament.
    Because the Lord Advocate has, despite repeated invitations, failed to clarify his position on this fundamental constitutional point, I have authorised counsel to intimate the case to the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body (who represent the Scottish Parliament in its day to day operations) so that they are duly and fully aware of this action, and of the arguments being advanced in their name on the matter of its powers and legislative competence which is, or is not being offered by the Lord Advocate – This is so they can decide for themselves if they are being properly represented by the Lord Advocate or not.
    As always, I hope you are all safe and well, and I shall send you more updates as they are forthcoming.
    Sincerely,

    Martin Keatings

  40. grizebard says:

    Apropos of SGP, I see that James has a new article tonight analysing yet another poll with indy in the lead, and already we have a BritNat moron going to “write to the UKGov” – wowie, they’ll just be thrilled, I expect – suggesting that it only engage with pro-indy parties if they have a manifesto committment to a referendum and they get a clear majority.

    Nitwit. The thing with countries who actually know how referendums work – as opposed to that preposterous little ignoramus – you have one whenever there is clearly a sizeable proportion of popular support for any proposition, and that situation with IR2 was reached a very long time ago.

    Double nitwit. If his “requirement” were met in an election, there would be no need for a referendum. The result would already be there for all to see.

    • Alex Clark says:

      Any idea if it possible that more than one person can have a Google account with the name of “Unknown” or is that no longer a requirement to post on SGP?

      • grizebard says:

        Well, you can still only post on SGP via a Google account, so your guess is as good as mine! (Unless James himself is posting with an alias. {grin})

        But this twerp was not one of them, he was more obviously red-white-blue-two.

    • grizebard says:

      Absent an S30 agreement in the immediate wake of a big SNP win in May, I could easily see a new plebiscite election in Scotland as per Paul’s suggestion in the autumn. So the twerp might get more than what he wishes for.

      (Oh, and how about coupled with a simultaneous SNP walkout of WM…?)

      • Republicofscotland says:

        The walk out will never happen, right now SNP MP’s are taking dogs abuse, but walking out for good would mean losing lucrative salaries.

        https://www.thenational.scot/news/18946216.philippa-whitford-definitely-policy-aggression-snp-uk-tories/

        • grizebard says:

          Oh, there you go again. You just can’t help getting in a dig at the SNP whenever you get a chance, however slim. MPs can march themselves out of the HoC chamber whenever they like without losing any “lucrative salary”, and in the event of independence (which you supposedly support) of course every Scottish MP of every party would cease to be paid from WM. So what’s your point, actually? Methinks thou protesteth too much, and it’s only your jealousy showing.

          • Republicofscotland says:

            I’ll remind you that Pete Wishart is now so ingratiated into the Westminster system that he put himself forward as a candidate for Speaker of the House.

            Now does that sound like settling up or settling in?

            • grizebard says:

              Save the empty rhetoric for WaS. That’s their thing.

            • douglasclark says:

              Or, he may see his candidature as yet another way to show just how shallow Westminster actually is.

              It seems to me that the Speaker is pretty much reserved to be a doyen of the big, at Westminster, political parties.

              Same as it ever was.

        • Bob Lamont says:

          Seconded Grizebard, this is tiresome sniping yet again from the Order of the Bath…

          • douglasclark says:

            What I have noticed is that that person appears to be attempting to use other independence web sites now. He is suddenly engaged.There is nothing wrong in principle with that, but he doesn’t seem to stick around when folk point out that his new model army has, in total, less than 1% support.

            We accuse Donald Trump of egoist tendancies.

            If he had played his cards right, he could have been a hero of Independence. As it stands he is carping – he loves carping – on the sidelines.

            I am reminded of Ozymandius:

            “I met a traveller from an antique land,
            Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
            Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,
            Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
            And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
            Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
            Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
            The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
            And on the pedestal, these words appear:
            My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
            Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
            Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
            Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
            The lone and level sands stretch far away.”

            Does it fit, or does it not?

        • Eilidh says:

          Spot the Whingist troll again ROS and I mean you. I have been pressing my imaginery block button all week and your crap still keeps showing up and as usual it is total crap

  41. Alex Clark says:

    The Scottish government are yet to comment but I think we will find that this “backdown” by Westminster is a smokescreen. The clue is in the word “agreed” procedures, meaning Westminster will still have to give its agreement to any divergence from what England wants from the Internal Market Bill.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/15/government-retreat-on-uk-internal-market-bill-ends-lords-stand-off

    This looks to me like another fudge similar to the Sewel convention “not normally” clause which proved it to be worthless.

  42. Hamish100 says:

    Looking forward to the new year. We can win the election and win Independence.
    No excuses allowed.

    Those campaigning for issues of no interest to the general public but only to a small clique are doing the unionists job. Independence First.

  43. ScotsCanuck says:

    …. wise words and a guid Battle plan, Paul …. I only hope the Hierarchy of the SNP are reading your Blogs.

    Take your time on the recuperation road and post what you can, when you can …. your analysis
    of the Scottish political landscape is enjoyable to read

  44. Dr Jim says:

    Kevin McKenna strikes again with his article, yes his article, the one he keeps writing over and over again only changing a few words to convince readers he’s writing something different to the previous drivel he spends his time scribbling, and it’s the one about how the SNP are bad but… we must use them to gain Scotland’s Independence then we must all rush to create the new shiny socialist revolution in Scotland that Jeremy Corbyn should’ve succeeded in winning in England with all the policies he nicked from guess who, the SNP, because apparently had Jeremy Corbyn not been rejected by mountains of voters everywhere he would have been better than the bad SNP and we could have all stuck with the Union that doesn’t work for Scotland in the first place then get Independence when the Tories get elected next time round, I’m amazed the National gives him the space for this stuff, he should be writing for the Socialist Worker if there still is such a thing, we want everything to change so we can make it the same as it was when it didn’t work before, so many of these types pushing old ideas and trying to pass them off as new hoping anybody under 50 hasn’t heard it all before

    Just like these supposed *new* list parties that are really only attempts at SNP high jackers but honest we’re not we promise

    Aye, OK if you say so

    • Jack Collatin says:

      The ‘Drivel Scribble’ of Comrade Kev.

      Lovin’ it, Dr Jim.

      McKenna is to Independence is what Herod was to Childcare.
      Did Robin McAlpine no’ get a mention?

      • Dr Jim says:

        Once McAlpine’s read McKenna he’ll write his article based on somebody else’s article directly lifted from that ever popular need to read magazine *Pigeons Today* a story of the flat cap and how the elite misappropriated its use to disguise Neo Liberalism from the workers

    • Republicofscotland says:

      Oh I thought McKenna’s article was on the mark.

      • grizebard says:

        Well, you would.

      • McKenna isn’t supporting Scottish independence he’s being underhand telling Scottish people what they will do after Scottish independence
        He’s mischief making
        He doesn’t know what we will “rush” to do anymore than the rest of us
        It will be a first , a first independence
        Many changes many thoughts and suggestions and lots of discussion but it will take time before we settle on a route and it may change as we go …..often

        So McKenna is being a fool, I see through him as do many many people
        He isn’t supporting Scottish independence with the guff he writes week in week out

  45. diabloandco says:

    You all know that old adage ‘ curiosity killed the cat’? Well I ventured on to the Daily Mail because someone had mentioned an article there and now I need cosseting and aid.
    Jings! Where do they find the people below the line? Are they real? Thinking adults?

  46. Capella says:

    Singapore on Thames – what those wonderful people who brought you BREXIT have in store for you – if you’re daft enough to still be in the UK. Richard Murphy spells out the future oligarchs’ paradise:

    https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2020/12/16/singapore-on-thames-is-coming-welcome-to-post-brexit-britain-where-only-the-wealthy-matter/

  47. Petra says:

    Thanks for another brilliant article, Paul, highlighting the challenges that we face and setting out clear guidelines to help us to achieve our aim.

    And thanks for the update on your health and house move too. Great to see that you’re continuing to make progress and that you’ve now got a date for moving and settling into your new home. I can just see you and Peter lolling around in your garden come springtime / summer 😀. Meanwhile take it easy and loll around on the couch, when necessary, preparing yourself for the big battle that’s facing us all next year. And yes we know you so well. You won’t give up and neither will we. We’ll be by your side when ”come hell or high water you’ll be playing a full and active role in the campaign that’s ahead of us in 2021.” Bring it on 😎.

    ……………………………………

    ‘Brexit: Scottish independence back in the spotlight.’

    ..”But for some in Europe, a solution may not be so hard to come by. “When you look at the border between Scotland and England, I think talking about making that an electronic border is much more feasible than, for example, the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland,” says Fabian Zuleeg, Chief Executive of the European Policy Centre, a Brussels-based think tank.”..

    ..”[An SNP victory would] evoke the precedent of the 2014 referendum, because that was conceded by the British government after the SNP won a majority in Holyrood, the Scottish Parliament, with a clear manifesto commitment to seek an independence referendum,” explains Professor Aileen McHarg, a constitutional expert at Durham University. “So it’s quite difficult to say, ‘That was regarded as justification for having a referendum in 2014,’ but it’s not justified now.”..

    http://www.dw.com/en/brexit-scottish-independence-back-in-the-spotlight/a-55947152

  48. Republicofscotland says:

    Being part of this god awful union is so bad now that UNICEF have been called in to help feed starving children in the UK.

    https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-for-the-first-time-in-its-history-unicef-will-help-feed-kids-in-the-uk-12163515

    • Petra says:

      Horrendous and it’s only going to get worse 🙄

      ”The UN agency responsible for providing humanitarian and developmental aid to children worldwide has likened the effect of the coronavirus pandemic on youngsters to that of the Second World War.”..

  49. Alex Clark says:

    This is a very good read in the Guardian, has Johnson down to a T.

    Boris Johnson has a habit of delaying tough choices. In a pandemic, it’s lethal

    https://archive.vn/eUU3T

  50. Petra says:

    Setting the record straight.

    ‘Rise in teacher numbers.’

    ”Class sizes lowest since 2012.”..

    http://www.gov.scot/news/rise-in-teacher-numbers/

    …………………………..

    Compare with England.

    ‘JAMIE GREENE SHOULD BE EMBARRASSED…ABOUT TORY ENGLAND’S UNDERSTAFFED, UNDERQUALIFIED TEACHING STAFF AND THE BETRAYAL OF PUPILS.’

    https://talkingupscotlandtwo.com/2020/12/16/jamie-greene-should-be-embarrassed-about-tory-englands-understaffed-underqualified-teaching-staff-and-the-betrayal-of-pupils/

  51. Petra says:

    Emilie-Louise Purdie;-Very disappointing to see @UKLabour in @UKHouseofLords suddenly drop support for amendments on #InternalMarketBill financial assistance clauses – these amendments would have been a step in protecting the #devolution settlement, obviously not important enough for
    @Keir_Starmer.” https://mobile.twitter.com/jesuisELP/status/1338543014583656451

    ………………………………………..

    Joanna Cherry QC: – ”A simple request to meet with the @scotgov Minister for Migration is met with arrogant obfuscation & an asinine remark about Hadrian’s Wall. No wonder we’ve had 16 polls in a row in favour of #Independence. The UK Gov’s Immigration Minister is certainly playing his part.” https://mobile.twitter.com/joannaccherry/status/1338523021603201024

  52. Petra says:

    More propaganda.

    MSM_Monitor:- ”BBC Scotland has known *since November* that the UK Govt is allowing Covid +ve patients to be discharged into care homes, yet refused to mention it when the Scottish Tories were attacking the Scottish Govt for allowing Covid +ve patients to be discharged on clinical grounds.” https://mobile.twitter.com/msm_monitor/status/1338776498430488576

    ……………………………..

    More hypocrisy.

    Grouse Beater:- ”The Man who Cried Wolfson Neil Findlay, Labour lout who denounced Holyrood lobbying scandals, is seeking work as a lobbyist. He’s looking for a job in public affairs while claiming he has “excellent working relationships with Scottish and UK media, stakeholders and politicians”.” https://mobile.twitter.com/Grouse_Beater/status/1338858118118182915

    • But, he’s one of Comrade Kevin’s working clas heroes, surely?

      They are all jumping ship before May. Beats quitting to spend more time with the family?

      ill the Red Tory Northern Branch office have any body left to stand in May 2021.
      Perhaps Comrade Kevin as Dick Leonard’s Communications Officer can yell us?
      Has Larry Militant Flanagan called the teachers out on strike since they voted ‘overwhelmingly’ to abandon the children in their care like good Comrades in McKenna’s Socialist Nirvana yet?

      God, these throw backs believe that they live in Jock land 1963…sorry, Kevin, 1967.

  53. Petra says:

    Tommy Sheridan:- ‘Democracy Denying Tories Must Be Defied – Scotland Free in 2021.’

    ”The mask has well and truly fallen from the ugly edifice of the cruel, callous, and calculating Tory party. Their flimsy allegiance to the idea of democracy is now blown asunder. Asked yesterday if they would participate in a Scottish Parliament organised independence referendum IF it was ruled legal by Scotland’s highest court they said NO, they would boycott such a vote. They are revealed today therefore as an anti-democratic bunch of cowards running scared from the sovereignty of the Scottish people. They are not just unelected to run Scotland they are unfit to run Scotland.”..

    https://sputniknews.com/amp/columnists/202012141081460036-democracy-denying-tories-must-be-defied–scotland-free-in-2021/?__twitter_impression=true

    ………………………………………………………………..

    ‘How North Sea Oil Shaped Britain’s Economy.’

    https://tribunemag.co.uk/2020/12/how-north-sea-oil-shaped-britains-economy

  54. Petra says:

    Please sign the petition.

    ‘New petition calls for introduction of criminal sanctions on MPs who mislead us.’

    https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/new-petition-calls-for-introduction-of-criminal-sanctions-on-mps-who-mislead-us/

    …………………………….

    Check out Ann’s latest links on the Indyref2 site.

    https://indyref2.space/forum/topic/links-wednesday-16-december-2020/

  55. Petra says:

    Philippa Whitford:- ‘Definitely a policy of aggression to SNP from UK Tories.’

    ..”Whitford said it was both “frustrating” and “tiring” dealing with such an opposition, adding: “But watching the UK Government repeatedly go down these wrong turnings and cul-de-sacs, it’s not just a matter of being frustrated. Not locking down early enough is estimated [to have led to] 1.3 million extra cases in England than there needed to be, and that will have resulted in between 7000 and 13,000 extra deaths. That is the point of it all.”

    http://www.thenational.scot/news/18946216.philippa-whitford-definitely-policy-aggression-snp-uk-tories/

    ………………………………

    Aw boo bl**dy hoo.

    ‘Charles and Camilla ‘cancel Scottish plans’ amid claims Nicola Sturgeon made them ‘feel unwelcome.’

    ”The Prince of Wales was planning on spending the festive season and Hogmanay at the Balmoral Estate in Scotland this year, but is reported to have cancelled because the First Minister has ‘made them feel unwelcome’.”..

    http://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/charles-camilla-cancel-scottish-plans-19450985

    • grizebard says:

      Aw boo bl**dy hoo.

      {laugh}

      It’s a hard life being a feckless itinerant with form for covid-spreading.

      (No future damehood for Nicola then. Which takes us back to your comment.)

    • Republicofscotland says:

      Petra.

      I’m sure there are many Scots who don’t want any royals anywhere near Scotland, and I agree with that, I want shot of these cosseted parasites in an independent Scotland for good

    • JoMax says:

      I thought the role of royals was to lead by example! Says more about them than about Nicola Sturgeon, the SNP, the ScotGov or the independence movement in general. So here’s the message to any Tory, Labour or LibDem British Establishment Nationalist mouthpiece in Scotland who dares to open their mouth in support of Charles & Co – Think before you speak for once!!

      • Hamish100 says:

        It’s a load of tosh. They never intended to stay here. Probably got the vaccine and are off. No doubt security will not allow them to travel to the Bahamas!

  56. jfngw says:

    I think we can see the next attack in the making regarding any EU deal, if the SNP vote against they will be trying to wreck the agreement to further their aim, if they vote for it they then why are they requesting a referendum after agreeing to a deal. They see it as a win-win outcome.

    Possibly abstention is the best here, say they will not block the deal but it is in reality unacceptable and has a bad outcome for Scotland. Obviously voting against is what should happen if it is a bad outcome for Scotland but this is politics and sometimes you have to bluff your position.

    • grizebard says:

      Yes, indeed a tricky one. The SG may be mindful of the likes of the West Coast fishermen, whose livelihood would likely be wrecked without a deal. But it’s a deal whose parameters are set by the Tory UKGov.

      Just another reason to be independent, so the SG (any SG of any party) doesn’t have to constantly tack to the whims and preferences of a government we can’t influence or change.

  57. Republicofscotland says:

    Scottish Greens leader Patrick Harvey ( last I looked he was a independence supporter) and Police Scotland are calling on the Lord Advocate to issue a letter of comfort, the letter would allow Police Scotland and those organisations involved in treating drug abusers to implement good ideas and drug consumption rooms that are currently waiting in the wings to be deployed.

    The letter would allow some sort of exemptions in this field, and would ultimately save lives, as of now though the Lord Advocate refuses to do so.

    • Alex Clark says:

      I’m not sure that any letter from the Lord Advocate would allow the opening of drug consumption rooms as the powers to open such rooms reside with Westminster and not the Scottish government or the Lord Advocate. I would be happy to be corrected.

      It is a fact though, that despite being asked repeatedly, the Tory government have refused to devolve the power over drug laws that would allow what is believed to be the best drug treatment, including decriminalisation, in Scotland to be decided by Scottish clinicians.

      In fact, just today at PMQ’s Ronnie Cowan, the SNP MP for Inverclyde asked that exact question relating to drug consumption rooms of the clown in charge at No 10 and was rebuffed again along with being told that the drug problems were all down to SNP incompetence.

      Worth watching, Patrick Harvie might like to watch as well.

      https://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/2579fa12-aef6-43ea-af82-2532aed86c7f?in=12:31:33&out=12:33:32

      I take a different view, give Scotland the powers and we will show Johnson how things should be done.

      • Republicofscotland says:

        Alex.

        I lifted the article, though not all of it, from the National newspaper, the article was written by Pete Wishart in today’s National newspaper, though to my embarrassment I can’t find a link for it on the National’s site.

        I take from it that the Lord Advocate is more concerned about his own reputation than he is about saving lives, if that sounds a bit harsh, then spare a thought for all the mothers, fathers, sisters brothers, etc, that have lost loved ones to drugs over the years in Scotland.

        Just about everyone knows someone whose died from the drug scourge at one point.

        • Alex Clark says:

          Here’s the link to the article by Pete Wishart in today’s National.

          https://archive.vn/i71Ft

          There is nothing in the article though about Patrick Harvie, the Greens or Police Scotland.

          Pete Wishart’s main message is one that I can totally agree with.

          It is the drug laws that create the legislative environment and context that the rehabilitation and support services have to operate in. As long as our drug legislation treats drug users as criminals, all the rehabilitation services in the world will be severely compromised in their ability to make a difference…

          Drug laws are exclusively reserved and it is the view of the Westminster Government that will prevail. If the two governments are aligned then there is no problem, but right now they’re not. The Scottish Government takes a health-based approach to drug use while the UK Government takes an ideological view about drug use based on the personal responsibility of the drug user…

          In our report, the Scottish Affairs Committee recommended to the UK Government that we decriminalise all drugs for personal use and that drug consumption facilities be piloted. This, inevitably, was rejected by the UK Government…

          There is as you point out, mention of a letter of comfort in the context of asking the Lord Advocate just what he believes he can do given that his opinion of a “letter of comfort” would break the law. Wishart continues:

          Then there are the legal powers open to us. When he appeared at our committee, the Lord Advocate could not support the concept of a “letter of comfort” for drug consumption facilities or some sort of “legal exemption” because of his responsibility to uphold and enforce the law. But with the total refusal of the UK Government to accept our recommendations the Lord Advocate should now review what is available to him under his responsibilities and look to solutions that would “allow” a facility to operate.

          It looks very much to me that the Lord Advocate is “refusing to do so” as you describe it because if he did then he would clearly be breaking the law as it stands. It’s really quite simple, drug laws are reserved, consumption of drugs that are referred to as “controlled substances” are reserved. The Lord Advocate rightly draws the conclusion the proposed Drug consumption rooms where drugs could be taken would break UK law.

          Only with Independence will we be able to change laws such as these and give Scotland all of the powers to tackle the admittedly bad drug problem we have here. A “letter of comfort” is but a fig leaf to the real issue of having another country control many if not most of your laws.

          • Republicofscotland says:

            Thank you Alex for providing the article’ I read it in the paper version

            • Alex Clark says:

              No problem, others may have been interested as well.

              I provided it for the sake of accuracy, since your version of Pete Wishart’s article was a bit off the mark as his article didn’t mention Patrick Harvie or Police Scotland. I’m not too sure either why you decided to have a go at the Lord Advocate either. Seems to me he has very little choice in the stance he has taken in this matter.

              Just because he is also a member of the Scottish Government doesn’t mean he should act as a puppet of the Scottish Government who clearly want to trial drug consumption rooms and decriminalise possession of drugs for self consumption. He knows the law and is telling it like it is and that’s what he must do else he is failing to do his job in advising the government.

              Also, it’s always a good idea I think, to be as accurate as possible when commenting about what others might or might not have said, maybe you combined your memory of two articles into one? We can all get that wrong, and it can easily happen.

      • Dr Jim says:

        Ex Labour MP Paul Sweeney is involved in the SNP bad drugs debacle, he’s going around in the safe consumption van preaching to anybody who’ll listen but doesn’t want to be interviewed on camera by the media

        Maybe he’s pulling teeth and selling Dr Sweeney’s cure all medicament while he’s at it

  58. Alex Clark says:

    This is a very surprising and shocking fact about the effectiveness of the new “tougher” Tier restrictions introduced two weeks ago in England.

    Quoting government data for England released last week and analysed by the BBC, Massey said: “Of the 315 local authority areas in England, there are 69 areas where rates went down and there are 246 areas where rates went up.

    Massey continued: “For Tier 2, there are 26 where rates went down or stayed flat and 121 areas where rates went up.

    “In terms of Tier 3 areas, there are 34 areas where rates went down and 123 where they went up.

    https://archive.vn/wip/s8btM

    The real problem I think, is not the restrictions themselves but the level of adherence to those restrictions. It simply isn’t high enough and this has been Johnson’s biggest blunder, a massive failure to take this virus seriously in the first place and consequently the mixed messaging that went out.

    It really doesn’t help much either that so many Tory MP’s are sceptics and see any restriction as a restriction of people’s civil liberties rather than as a measure to save the lives of those same people and their families.

  59. Alex Clark says:

    Oooh what’s all this? Some signs of civil disobedience from the SNP in the Commons LOL

    SNP MP Drew Hendry has been suspended from the House of Commons after refusing to sit down and stop shouting during a Brexit debate.

    Hendry had been protesting against the UK Internal Market Bill.

    As business minister Paul Scully concluded Mr Henry got to his feet and said: “Madam Deputy Speaker, this is an outrage.”

    Having been told to resume his seat by Dame Rosie Winterton, Mr Hendry refused before proceeding to pick up the parliamentary mace and proceeding towards the door of the Chamber.

    MPs across the Chamber could be heard describing Mr Hendry’s actions as “outrageous” and referring to it as “another boring stunt”.

    Dame Rosie remarked that it was “very childish”, before naming Mr Hendry and suspending him from the service of the House.

    https://archive.vn/wip/xCCYi

  60. Alex Clark says:

    This is the moment Drew Hendry is evicted from the Commons, I notice that they deliberately did not allow the cameras to record this, especially him picking up the mace and heading for the door.

    I wonder why hahaha. Can’t be giving these uppity Jocko’s any big ideas eh what!

    https://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/2579fa12-aef6-43ea-af82-2532aed86c7f?in=17:15:20&out=17:18:08

  61. Republicofscotland says:

    Labour and Tory Aberdeen councillor’s want to bypass Holyrood and get their funding straight from Westminster. They’ve already written a letter to Westminster asking for their funding to be sent direct.

    This is a direct attack on devolution by British nationalists within Aberdeen council, no doubt Alister Jack will nurture this seed of discontent, until it blooms into a threat to Holyrood.

    https://www.thenational.scot/news/18948803.aberdeen-council-votes-bypass-holyrood-ask-uk-government-funds/

    • grizebard says:

      And Labour claims to be the instigator and guardian of devolution. “Aberdeen Labour” not so much, it seems. Have that contemptible shower of Tory collaborators even been expelled from the party yet?

  62. Alex Clark says:

    Here is the video of Drew Hendry picking up the mace and heading for the door 🙂

  63. Republicofscotland says:

    Looks like the British nationalist government at Westminster are running scared on this one.

  64. Alex Clark says:

    This is interesting.

    “The Scotsman is partnering with leading research consultancy Savanta ComRes to publish a new series of polls in the countdown to next year’s Scottish Parliament election.

    Monthly polls will be published under the partnership ahead of the Holyrood election scheduled for May 6.

    On Thursday we launch the first results in the series, which will put questions to Scottish voters around a range of topics, including independence, education, coronavirus and the Alex Salmond inquiry.”

    Results will be available from the first poll at 7am tomorrow on the Britsman website.

    • diabloandco says:

      Didn’t that wonderful paper hold a poll before the Indy ref and ultimately didn’t publish the results as they were obviously NOT to their liking?

    • Bob Lamont says:

      Ah, Operation “Pollshit”, an opportunity to they rake over old stories which failed amid hope to breathe some life back into them…. And the results are –
      99% Scots are found not to support independence, believe edumacation has dismally failed, Alex Salmond should have been banished to Mordor, and the Hootsman is the most trusted media in Scotland…

  65. Alex Clark says:

    Questions on education and the Alex Salmond inquiry. A fishing expedition obviously.

  66. Vaccines….they don’t all work as they should

    The one being rolled out in U.K. , pfizer, has been given a special deal by Westminster basically saying that if you take the vaccine and it harms you or kills you or makes you sick in any way Pfizer will not be held responsible

    Would you take it ?
    I wouldn’t ..

    This reported in USA counterpunch mag

    long list of grave questions remains when it comes to the oversight of, and accountability of, those private companies that now hold the health of the world in their hands. Already, the British government has granted Pfizer, which stands to earn billions by beating the competition to market, legal indemnity from any complications that may arise from its vaccine, and the Trump administration has made similar agreements. Much also remains uncertain when it comes to how American-produced vaccines will be fairly distributed, here and across the world, and whether they will be safe, effective, and free. (I recently signed onto a public letter to the incoming Biden administration calling for a “people’s vaccine.”)

    • Alex Clark says:

      Pfizer has been given no “special deal” whatsoever that is any different from what every other vaccine company has obtained in the UK.

      All of the vaccine contracts signed by this government have a clause that indemnifies the vaccine maker if it results in them being sued for anything that might go wrong. This is simply a consequence of the speed with which this vaccine has been approved and the government’s desperation to make it available.

      From the Guardian, an article today explains most of how the deals have been done.

      Current government plans are to vaccinate up to 25 million people with two doses of a Covid-19 vaccine throughout 2021, but these are subject to change depending on vaccine developments, the report said.

      The public purse may incur additional costs because the vaccine contracts each contain a form of indemnity protection for the pharmaceutical companies in case of any legal action arising from adverse effects from the vaccines.

      No cap has been applied to the amount the government could have to pay if there is a successful claim against the companies in four of the five contracts agreed so far, auditors warned.

      https://archive.vn/KJHri

  67. Alex Clark …you are wrong

    There is a list of vaccines administered in U.K. on gov.U.K. Website the list is there to say that government will compensate anyone who suffers ill affects from taking one of the listed vaccines.
    The list exists because it offers confidence to people that strict enough safety measures are in place and compensation in the unlikely event it goes wrong ,unlikely because of strict extensive testing, government offer nothing if this Pfizer vaccine goes wrong , it’s not on the list and won’t be I think for some considerable time because the risk is too high not tested enough not tested long enough

    This Pfizer vaccine will not join the list as it should and that’s because it has been rushed into production and that carries greater risk than is normally accepted so there being greater risk and there being government wishes for quick availability an agreement was signed by Westminster absolving Pfizer of responsibility if it goes wrong , Westminster are not offering compensation either if it goes wrong, this will be an issue if or when it goes wrong for someone

    • Alex Clark says:

      Hahaha you total tit. It is not me that is wrong, take it up with the editor of the Guardian you diddy.

      Show me the link to this UK government website you are writing about. I want to see this list of vaccines administered in U.K that you say “the UK government will compensate anyone who suffers ill affects from taking one of the listed vaccines”.

      Have you saw this list LOL

      When you can do that then I might start to pay attention. Also, just how much relevance do you give to this “counterpunch.org”? Are they a reliable source in your opinion or is it something you read on Facebook and felt you had to share?

    • yesindyref2 says:

      The Pfizer vaccine IS being added to the UK Gov website, according a 3rd December article on the UK Gov website:

      https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-add-covid-19-to-vaccine-damage-payments-scheme

      Press release
      Government to add COVID-19 to Vaccine Damage Payments Scheme

      Alex is right: “Pfizer/BioNTech’s vaccine is now the first COVID-19 vaccine to be authorised for use in the UK, and the MHRA will keep safety under continual review.“, therefore it’s covered – as it’s authorised.

      • yesindyref2….you are wrong It’s Not covered it’s not in the list , get back to me when it’s on the list good luck with that could take years before you see it on the list so meantime no compensation and roll out of the vaccine had started

        You and Alex are wrong
        Alex can’t be bothered to look at gov.U.K.
        You look into the future and pretend it’s now

        Pair of tits

      • yesindyref2 says:

        You’re looking at this “Papers subject to Negative Resolution” on page 14 of this
        commonsbusiness.parliament.uk/document/43573/pdf

        6 Public Health
        Vaccine Damage Payments (Specified Disease) Order 2020 (SI, 2020, No. 1411), dated 2 December 2020 (by Act), with an Explanatory Memorandum and an Impact Assessment (by Command) (Jo Churchill

        in conjunction with this:
        https://www.parliament.uk/site-information/glossary/negative-procedure/

        Negative procedure is a type of parliamentary procedure that applies to statutory instruments (SIs). Its name describes the form of scrutiny that the SI receives from Parliament.

        An SI laid under the negative procedure becomes law on the day the Minister signs it and automatically remains law unless a motion – or ‘prayer’ – to reject it is agreed by either House within 40 sitting days.

        The Referendums (Scotland) 2020 Act has something similar – both the negative and the affirmative procedure for different things. Which is why I was knew to interpret the original press release – from the language it used “to add”. They’re not expecting any objections so the Minister’s amendment to the existing SI will become law.

  68. https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/12/15/brexit-bluster-exposes-the-waning-of-english-power/

    Here we have details about how Northern Ireland is changing because of brexit
    Unionists feel betrayed
    Protestants feel let down
    Reunification Irish people are buoyed because there’s no tangible border across Ireland
    Catholics buoyed by statistics showing they now outnumber Protestants in Northern Ireland

    DUP not in the news these days are they
    No million pound bribes from Westminster for their votes are there

    A reunified Ireland gets closer
    USA Biden and EU now see reunification as the best way forward
    1921 is when England split Ireland and grabbed Northern Ireland to be theirs
    2021 a hundred years later I believe will be the time when reunification happens

    Once Northern Ireland leaves
    Scotland will too
    Then Wales
    Then Gibraltar
    Who will England fight ? that is the question because they will get nasty with someone

  69. yesindyref2 says:

    What an incredibly stupid thing this Brexit is. Raab is saying it could take years to negotiate a trade deal with India – the EU started in 2007, and suspended in 2013. And here’s what agreements the EU has or is negotiating, and it takes years.

    https://ec.europa.eu/trade/policy/countries-and-regions/negotiations-and-agreements/index_en.htm#_in-place

    I think what we’re seeing is the return of the V, and instead of just first names as before the lizards have advanced and realise that calling themselves Michael, Boris, Liam, Priti, Alister with some articifial skin plastered over them, just doesn’t cut the mustard. And, hey, they’re even after our water, same as before.

  70. Legerwood says:

    Looks as if the Scotsman’s decision to hold a poll on independence has not given it the result it maybe hoped for.

    Herald online report that the Scotsman/Comres poll puts Yes at 58% and SNP on course for a majority in May elections.

  71. yesindyref2 says:

    The survey interviewed 1,013 Scottish adults aged 16 or over online between the dates of December 11 and 15“. Also “the first in a new series ahead of next year’s Scottish Parliament election“.

    Good timing, very good after that last worrying poll, with the poll 7 days later. So if there was any short-term negative effect from the SNP conference, it’s gone like the wind. Or it was a blip.

    And support for the Union with 10% don’t knows down to 38%, probably the lowest ever – the Ipsos-Mori was 39% with 9% don’t knows. Add to that, I found that not supporting Independence – yet – is not the same as supporting the Union. Some people just want reassuring they won’t be worse off, they like the actual idea of Indy even if they’re currently NO.

    Basically speaking the Previous Onion is fusked. Boo hoo.

  72. Dr Jim says:

    Pushing the SNP to do better: They claim

    The Labour party in Scotland claim they’re responsible for defending the working *class* and they’ve been responsible for all the *good* things that have been achieved in Scotland despite the SNP
    The Tory party in Scotland claim they are responsible for sticking to the UK government policies and that’s why Scotland isn’t as bad as it could be under the SNP
    The Liberal Democrats in Scotland claim their principles of democracy and fairness keep the SNP honest because without them there would be no transparency
    Comrade Patrick Harvie of the Greens in Scotland claims that *all* green issues achieved in Scotland are as a result of him forcing the SNP into action on climate change

    It appears as though the SNP have never ever done a thing in their time of government and the majority of voters in Scotland are all stupid for voting SNP, and it makes you wonder if all these opposition parties in Holyrood actually understand how politics works

    • Petra says:

      ”It appears as though the SNP have never ever done a thing in their time of government”..

      Oh that must be right enough 🙄. This is what’s actually been achieved over the last five years alone under the leadership of Nicola Sturgeon up until November 2019.

      ‘Start the clock! 50 SNP achievements in government.’

      http://www.snp.org/start-the-clock-50-snp-achievements-in-government/

      • But, Petra, Sturgeon’s Government is a neo liberal Tartan Tory enclave, according to Comrade McKenna, who pines for the return of Mags Curran Jack McConnell and Lord Darling of Flipper…?

        Sorry, can’t sleep.
        It was either get back up or get kicked out of bed by the Light of My Life.

        Police Scotland is the SNP’s private army?
        McKenna will write any old garbage to get clicks.

        How many Dead Tree Scrolls are being sold every day now? 20,000? 25,000?
        Who’s paying to keep them afloat Up Here?

  73. Alex Clark says:

    72% of those polled by Comres for the Britsman say Nicola Sturgeon is Intelligent.
    32% think Douglas Ross is intelligent and a whopping 28% believe Richard Leonard to be intelligent. There was no score provided for Wee Willie Rennie LOL.

    Also:

    “Nicola Sturgeon’s favourability is significantly ahead of other Scottish leaders, for many of whom Scots rarely have a strong opinion on – if they’ve even heard of them.”

  74. Alex Clark says:

    The Scotsmans take on the SNP and their poll.

    With independence sixth on voters’ priority list behind the economy, Brexit, health, jobs and education, and the SNP with 13 years of government behind them, you would expect a closer race in the run up to an election.

    Instead this poll underlines the political strength of the SNP and illustrates that while independence drives the SNP’s rhetoric, it is not necessarily driving voters to the SNP.

    https://archive.vn/CHWs6

    Support for the SNP is reflected in their getting on with the day job. Despite what the media have tried to portray the people of Scotland like what they see and support for the SNP and Independence continues to grow.

    No wonder the other lot are in such a panic, they are losing badly and they know it.

    • Golfnut says:

      ‘ it is not necessarily driving voters to the SNP ‘

      What utter crap, it’s the Scotland is sh##e rhetoric that is driving voters to the SNP, that and a westminster government exposed as corrupt and incompetent.

  75. Republicofscotland says:

    So Johnson is pushing ahead with the Internal Market bill without consent from Scotland and Wales, the Sewell Convention isn’t worth the paper its written on. Johnson claims that leaving the EU is an exceptional circumstance, and that’s why he’s going to ride roughshod over Scotland and the Welsh governments on devolved matters. It makes a mockery of the saying powers devolved are powers retained Westminster can and has changed the goal posts to suit its needs.

    This and countless other infringements on devolution show quite clearly that we (Scotland) aren’t and never were an equal partner in this horrendous union. This undemocratic union is in its final stage of decline.

    https://www.thenational.scot/news/18951785.uk-goes-ahead-internal-market-bill-without-consent-wales-scotland/

    • Golfnut says:

      I think they will regret being so cavalier in their attitude and abuse of parliamentary convention. As for equality, well we are, legally equal, it’s jthe gun pointing at westminster head.

    • grizebard says:

      It makes a mockery of the saying powers devolved are powers retained

      No, it doesn’t – it does the diametric opposite, it proves the saying. The legally-defunct weasel-word “normally” is the visual manifestation of that harsh reality. What is actually being made a mockery of are all the false assurances of Bitter Together back in 2014. With devolution we are always going to be subject to goalpost-moving from London, whatever promises the likes of Federal Broon or Snake-oil Gove may cynically utter.

      That’s why independence is necessary – it’s the only solution that absolutely guarantees we’ll be interference-free. In everything.

    • grizebard says:

      It makes a mockery of the saying powers devolved are powers retained

      No, it doesn’t – it does the diametric opposite, it proves the saying. The legally-void weasel-word “normally” is the visual manifestation of that harsh reality. What is actually being made a mockery of are all the false assurances of Bitter Together back in 2014. With devolution we are always going to be subject to goalpost-moving from London, whatever promises the likes of Federal Broon or Snake-oil Gove may cynically utter.

      That’s why independence is necessary – it’s the only solution that absolutely guarantees we’ll be interference-free. In everything.

    • grizebard says:

      It makes a mockery of the saying powers devolved are powers retained

      No, it doesn’t – it does the diametric opposite, it proves the saying. The legally-void weasel-word “normally” is the visual manifestation of that harsh reality. What is actually being made a mockery of are all the false assurances of Bitter Together back in 2014.

    • grizebard says:

      It makes a mockery of the saying powers devolved are powers retained

      No, it doesn’t – it does the diametric opposite, it proves the saying. The legally-void weasel-word “normally” is the visual manifestation of that harsh reality. What is actually being made a mockery of are all the false promises of Bitter Together back in 2014. With devolution we are always going to be subject to goalpost-moving from London, whatever promises the likes of Federal Broon or Snake-oil Gove may cynically utter.

      That’s why independence is necessary – it’s the only solution that absolutely guarantees we’ll be interference-free. In everything.

    • grizebard says:

      The reality of devolution proves the saying, not make a mockery of it. What is actually being made a mockery of are all the false promises made to us back in 2014.

      That’s why independence is necessary – it’s the only solution that absolutely guarantees we’ll be interference-free. In everything.

      • grizebard says:

        Oops – apologies for the multiple postings. All the variants which mysteriously went right in the dunny at the time have all finally won their freedom!

  76. Old Pete says:

    “Shite over Scotland” full on campaign against anything SNP. Most of the contributers to the blog from Bath are now openly attempting to defeat the SNP any way they can. The SNP are attempting to support all people within Scottish society, something “Shite over Scotland” doesn’t like.
    Great to see Independence support at 58%.

    • Republicofscotland says:

      On the contrary Pete I comment on Wings, but I fully intend to vote for the SNP next May, and from what I’ve read on the blog others are voting SNP as well, a few bad apples within the party doesn’t mean that we should abandon it. Besides its unthinkable to vote for any other party (constituency wise at least) come next May.

      • Hamish100 says:

        A few bad apples within the party.? The comment was about wings. It runs adnaseum bad snp stories and this is the majority. Recently I have noticed a drift away to other sites.

      • Petra says:

        You support a man who seems to support Westminster in using his site to constantly undermine Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP. It’s ALL he does now in fact. The SNP that’s the only political party that’s actually capable of getting us our independence. Explain that and stop trying to pull the wool over everyones eyes.

    • jfngw says:

      Is it a Stuart Campbell column or a Brian Wilson one, the similarity is you don’t need to read the whole article as you’ve already read it in a previous post. It”s almost like a religion now, Bathintology, you just need to repeat the mantra BTL, deviation is excommunication.

    • Arthur Thomson says:

      Wings goes rogue. Support for independence rises.

      Maybe there’s a link.

  77. Dr Jim says:

    While the drug death stats in Scotland have seriously been going the wrong way the politicising of them is proving a useful tool for the man behind that to relocate himself back into a seat in whichever parliament becomes available to him, and that man is ex Labour MP Paul Sweeney, remember him when he lost his warmly padded well paid seat in Westminster to the SNP then informed us he was signing on coz he couldnae afford a loaf o breid, (he never saved anything?) but you won’t see Mr Sweeney giving any on camera interviews on the subject because folk might put two and two together and come up with, well, some kind of an answer that sounds like,

    Aahh r.i.g.h.t………….

    Me cynical? never!

  78. Hamish100 says:

    The drug deaths are terrible. I note most deaths are to 35 year olds and above. 20 years of drug abuse will have its toll eventually. Independence will allow us to tackle this and other health issues differently.

  79. Dr Jim says:

    I just remembered, even if there’s a no deal Brexit Northern Ireland will still remain in the EU and the UK simultaneously, so England gets what it voted for, Wales gets what it voted for, Northern Ireland gets two deals one of which they voted for and Scotland gets screwed, which is not what Scotland voted for, but there are mitigating reasons for Northern Ireland getting everything it wants we’re told, and here are those reasons

    1 Northern Ireland is *unique*
    2 Religious bigotry still remains
    3The threat of violence exists

    These are the official reasons the Westminster government have supplied for their decision making over Northern Ireland, so what’s different about N.I in comparison to Scotland, is Scotland not considered unique, eh we still have religious bigotry, oh right I see we don’t blow people up or shoot folk, so only the one reason then, the violence thing, Ah if that story were only true, but it’s not

    Northern Ireland is being prepared to be *let go* and this is the assistance towards the transition to reunification because Northern Ireland costs the UK money whereas Scotland makes the UK money

    But if the UK government is serious about the violence thing they’re welcome to come round my house and form an orderly queue while I lop their heads off one at a time, I’ll even supply the plastic for them to stand on, we’re very civilised that way in Scotland and our bin guys are used to dealing with rats

    • bringiton says:

      The London government doesn’t give a shit if Irish people decide to kill each other but the prospect of the IRA bombing England’s green and pleasant land again is another matter.

  80. astytaylor says:

    Good reading, Paul, and glad you are on the mend, All the best. Asty

  81. brianmlucey says:

    You need, above all, the police on side. Have you??

  82. Hamish100 says:

    I know some PC’s who are certainly pro independence and some who are not. They reflect Scotland. Next point?

  83. Dr Jim says:

    Am I missing something, what have the police to do with anything

    • Alex Clark says:

      He’s looking at the Scottish situation from an Irish angle, I suspect he is comparing the PSNI with Police Scotland which is a big mistake. We are not Northern Ireland or anything like it.

    • grizebard says:

      I think it signifies that this plonker believes that when all else fails, and independence becomes the demonstrated will of a majority of the people of Scotland, there is going to be some organised coup to thwart it by some organ of the BritNat state. (It’s a wonder he didn’t choose the Army instead. Maybe that would be too explicit even for him.)

      Alex could well be right, an example of NI/Orangist thinking. But very revealing in any case: the diehard Unionists are feeling the tide turn against them, are losing faith in their “Plan A” of “just say no”, and are now frantically casting around for an anti-democratic alternative. The mask slips just a little more.

      • Alex Clark says:

        The poster is a Professor at Trinity College in Dublin, but by raising this question mark over the Police in Scotland he reveals his ignorance not just of the police but of Scotland and her people.

        He needs to do some more research or just keep his nose out of our affairs and his ignorance of them and of our history is apparent. He’s also a cheeky bastard in his assumptions of Independence supporters being ignorant of history.

        Brian M Lucey has been the most ignorant poster on this thread.

        • Dr Jim says:

          I honestly had no clue what he was on about but of course I see it now, the Irish experience was one of the police doing the bidding of the English crown and turning on their own people by being a police *force* as opposed to what we have in Scotland now, a police service and not a local army under the direction of the English monarchial system similar to Spain where they have the Policia local who are the regular service paid for by general taxation and local fines and the Guardia civil paid directly by the Spanish government

          • Dr Jim says:

            The Guardia civil are basically soldiers dressed up in police style uniforms and they live in compounds for their own and their families protection, and of course to be called into action immediately to respond as units, the Policia local are kinda like our cops here who go home after their shifts and deal with general policing, small crimes road traffic and the like and don’t wear armoured clothing or go around frightening folk, the Guardia are very polite always but also very serious and possess very large chips on their shoulders as to their own importance, and they are important which is why football fans who travel to Spain recognise the difference between the two very quickly if they misbehave

        • grizebard says:

          Ah, now you mention it, I seem to have a distant memory he’s been here before. You have to wonder though why he bothers. What is he trying to prove? Does he indulge in a late-night tipple too far then go looking for somebody to annoy?

  84. Julia Gibb says:

    The most effective path to Independence remains being informed and confident of the path AND talking to others about how you feel.

    Nothing is as powerful as the word of a trusted friend, brother, sister, etc

    The gentle drip of water on stone is irresistible and also like water flow around a stubborn barrier, leave it isolated in the middle of the flow. Energy expended debating with a hardcore Unionist is energy and time wasted.

    Better Together put all their energy into frightening the undecided last time. Fear of change is a poor argument given the current UK direction of travel since 2014.

    The reality is simple….if only a few percent of the YES voters work to win over ONE person each then it will be a landslide victory.

    Rightwing Greedy, Heartless, Brexit Bigots are making it easy to say
    ” Scotland can do better than this”

  85. vivianoblivian7 says:

    Johnson’s jotters are marked.
    YouGov, Welsh attitudes to pandemic management (field work 11th to 16th Dec).
    Rating Welsh Government handling of pandemic … net +ve 38%.
    Rating UK Government handling of pandemic … net -ve 34%.
    Trust in pandemic decision making of Mark Drakeford … net +ve 22%.
    Trust in pandemic decision making of Boris Johnson … net -ve 39%.

  86. yesindyref2 says:

    Holy shit!

    https://www.thenational.scot/news/18955091.andy-wightmans-quits-scottish-greens-partys-position-gender/

    ANDY Wightman has quit the Scottish Greens, hitting out at a lack of debate in the party over transgender and women’s rights.

    • Andy Wightman is a man I truly rate.
      I sincerely hope that he considers ephemerally joining the SNP, at least until after Indyref 2, to beef up the left wing of the party.
      For Arvie to drive him to the edge like this seems incredible, but not in the least surprising.
      He’d get this old Land Reformer’s vote, that’s for sure.
      I’ve scanned the Dead Tree Scrolls this morning. They are lying by headline of Brexit.
      It is not ‘fishing’ which is the stumbling block; it’s the level playing field, stupid.
      There is no way on this earth that Europe, my Europe, will budge on this, and allow England (sic) access to the Single Market peddling goods produced in low wage zero hour sweat shops, wire coat hangers welded by workers who had been given a 3 week course in welding 101, and transported across the EU by 66 year old Long Distance Drivers who have driven for 70 hours each week.

      I back the EU on this, not England.
      And there’s the rub.
      I am on the other side of the negotiations table to Lord David Frost and Fishface Gove.

      Johnson is an utter buffoon, who is still smirking swivel eyed on camera, as lorries queue for tens of miles on the M20 as I write, trying to get to Europe to ‘panic buy’ before Jan1st.

      England is the Tribe That Lost Its Head.
      It is led by a group of insane psychopaths now.
      God help them.

    • vivianoblivian7 says:

      What are the rules when a list MSP resigns the party whip? Michelle Ballantyne quit the Tories a number of weeks back and still draws a salary (as far as I know). Surely if a list MSP resigns from their party, the next, no name entity on the list is called to Holyrood.

    • Capella says:

      Well done Andy. Glad to see that at least one Green has some integrity. Alison Johnston could do likewise.

    • Bob Lamont says:

      Intriguing timing with Holyrood elections less than 6 months away, and as always with political parties there will be a lot more to it than the headline, strong-arming for a united front the most common issue, as Labour (even Tories are cracking) are still finding to this day…
      I generally agree with Wightman’s perceptions, certainly on land and property reform, there is so much wrong with the status quo yet political push to redress it is markedly absent.
      It will leave Harvie minus one of his most eloquent and learned MSPs, but I suspect he will find a more comfortable home shortly…

    • grizebard says:

      This does rather illustrate that the intolerance behind this festering issue isn’t exclusive to one party. And I suppose it was always on the cards that it would surface in the most “right-on” party, which seems latterly to have lost focus on its core policy in favour of doctrinaire posturing of no great relevance or interest to the general public. But Andy Wightman effectively being forced out? – that’s unexpected. Pity for the Greens, their parliamentary strength has been decimated by this one departure.

      They, and we in the wider indy movement, can little afford to have distractions like this in the run up to the May elections. One can’t help but wonder if this divisive issue isn’t being deliberately promoted with that in mind. Not a peep from within Labour, for example.

      • Bob Lamont says:

        Whether for Andy it is “the bridge too far” with the Greens or it had been festering for some time only he can expand on at some point, but I doubt given the “continuity game” London have been playing and desperate to ensure keeping all the pieces in playing would welcome this.
        Not so much a distraction BY the London mafia, quite the opposite, a “loose cannon” they could well do without on their battlefield…

  87. yesindyref2 says:

    https://www.thenational.scot/news/18954677.nicola-sturgeon-interviewed-major-european-papers-58-independence-poll/

    SPANISH, French, German and Italian newspapers put Scottish independence in the spotlight this morning following the publication of the latest Savanta ComRes poll, showing Yes support at 58% for the second time in two months. …

    Nicola Sturgeon gave interviews to Die Welt, El Pais, Liberation and La Repubblica on Wednesday with her focus on Brexit, the pandemic and rising support for independence.

    Sturgeon doesn’t support Independence, she must RESIGN.

    It comes a week after the First Minister addressed a massive global audience in an interview with CNN’s Christiane Amanpour.

    Sturgeon should focus on the DAY JOB.

    They write that the First Minister has given frequent “honest explanations” and “has not hesitated to diverge from” the UK Government when necessary.

    Sturgeon is Westminster’s lackey, she’s employed by MI5, or the 77th or (mumbles).

    “This increases the importance of Scotland playing a relevant role in Europe and the world, and reinforces the need to be an independent country,” she told journalists.

    Sturgeon does NOT never support or campaign for Independence. La la la la.

    Asked what would happen if Boris Johnson refuses consent for a fresh independence referendum, Sturgeon explained taking the matter to the courts is “not what I prefer”, but cannot be ruled out.

    Sturgeon is BEGGING Westminster for the gold standard Section 30 and is ruling out, errr. umm.

    Sturgeon responded: “When the corona pandemic broke out in the UK in March , I put the plans for a referendum on hold. We have asked the UK Government to do the same with Brexit and to extend the transition period. But [they] refused.

    See? Sturgeon DOESN’T WANT an Indy ref or Independence! Honest, would I lie? Am I thick as two short, errr, thingies, or what?

    Anyway, MRS MURRELL MUST RESIGN

    • grizebard says:

      I fear you have been dipping into WaS again, dear chap. I recommend a lie down in a darkened room for a while. You’ll feel much better for it. {grin}

      • Republicofscotland says:

        It reads to me as sarcasm of the articles by Yesindyref2.

        • grizebard says:

          Of course. Hence my wee jest (which alas seems to have gone over your head at least).

        • yesindyref2 says:

          RoS
          Thing is the EU has been saying “Scotland will be welcomed as long as Independence is with Westminster’s agreement and in accord with the UK Constitution”.

          Well, without a Section 30 the first part of that isn’t happening, but successful action in court would fulfil the second part. But that’s the important part of the “Rule of Law”. Hence the constant attacks by Unionists or the gullible ignorati on Wolffe, our – our – Lord Advocate.

          Sturgeon has been around EU members a lot over the last few years, raising Scotland’s presence, and annoying Westminster into the bargain, they really don’t like it up ’em. She’s basically been making the case, not just for Independence, but for EU members to recognise Scotland’s Independence, as well as make it easier to rejoin the EU if that’s our will. And possibly to put pressure on the UK, something they might enjoy doing these days.

          Now she’s preparing the ground for the court case and Rule of Law, and we would hope the EU doesn’t worry so much about Westminster’s agreement. After all, the EU has been having massive problems with Westminster’s intransigence over the negotiations, so now it realises how we feel. And note, as well as France and Germany, it’s Italy and Spain newspapers. In Ireland for instance they’re already 100% behind us, I know, my wife’s Irish.

          Sturgeon has never stopped promoting Independence, she’s been doing it where it counts – internationally. And with Trump out and Biden in, that becomes easier.

          It’s up to us, the People of Scotland, to actually support a YES vote and we seem to be doing that of our own free will, YES up to 58% again in the most recent poll, and NO right down to 38% including don’t knows. Better Together said that Indy would be done for a generation if the result in 2014 was 40% or less, Well, the Union is fucked, it’s down to 38%. And it was Sturgeon who introduced the Motion in her name – S4M-01822 – on 26th January 2012:

          https://www.theyworkforyou.com/sp/?id=2012-01-26.38.0

          That the Parliament acknowledges the sovereign right of the Scottish people to determine the form of government best suited to their needs and declares and pledges that in all its actions and deliberations their interests shall be paramount.

          I agree with every word of the article.The velvet gloves are coming off, big time.

          • Republicofscotland says:

            Thank you Yesindyref2 for that reply.

            You really do need to read the excellent Gordon Dangerfield’s blog (The conflicted role of the Lord Advocate) with the current Lord Advocate in mind to see that things aren’t what they first appear to be, and I’m not just referring to his disgraceful interventions against Martin Keating’s attempts to clear up the S30 matter.

            https://gordondangerfield.com/

            The Lord Advocate, should be focusing on carefully crafting a Scottish government Rule of Law bill on independence that can be tested in the courts, he should not be spending his time attempting to suppress a private citizen (Mr Keating) from doing the job that the Scottish government should have done years ago, it leaves a sour taste in the publics mouth.

            On the FM I myself mostly recall her putting a tremendous amount of time, taxpayers money and energy into trying to stop Brexit, yellow bus and all, in my opinion those resources should’ve been used on the independence front. Fast forward four years to today, with an election on the horizon, and its comes as no surprise that the FM is pushing the independence card.

            • Bob Lamont says:

              “in my opinion”
              Precisely.

            • RoS, Nikla Bad.
              Wrong site, look to Bath.
              We are not minded to act as WoS II here.
              ‘Bye.
              No that’s me finished.
              Campbell will let you write reams and reams of this shite….fill your boots

            • yesindyref2 says:

              You really do need to read the excellent Gordon Dangerfield’s blog

              I had a look at it a couple of times before. He has an axe to grind, and opinions to go with it. That doesn’t make him a bad person. He is not, however, some sort of definitive reference source – just an opinion. Nor is he some sort of Constitutional expert.

              He’s a solicitor advocate which means he can do court work, he’s with an estate agent / solicitors, which probably means he doesn’t specialise in court work so is mostly a solicitor, both family and property legal work. He’s regulated and trained by the Law Society of Scotland. An advocate on the other hand, is trained and regulated by the Faculty of Advocates. They only do court work. Most are freelance.

              Both can have views and opinions, and both can diametrically disagree with each other. That’s the point of the word “advocate” – effectively they argue one point of view.

              Wolffe and O’Neill are “top” advocates. They also don’t have to agree with each other – that’s the point of the word “advocate”. If someone is paying for it, they might end up in court facing each other, and arguing their opinions, The judges will then – judge.

              Wolffe has been our man in the Scottish Government interventions, and indeed Scotland Lord Advocate. He does not owe any loyalty to the UK Government, unlike the Advocate General for Scotland who is appointed by the UK Government – the last one – Keen – resigned, and they found one to replace him (forget his name).

            • Petra says:

              ”On the FM I myself mostly recall her putting a tremendous amount of time, taxpayers money and energy into trying to stop Brexit.”

              And wasn’t that because 62% of Scots voted to remain in the EU, independence supporters and not, and that leaving the EU was (is) going to cause economic havoc especially for Scotland? She also had no idea until recently that a majority of Scots supported independence so if she had just sat on her ar*se, done nought about Brexit and then we’d lost Indyref2 people like you would be condemning her for that.

              • Petra, you are much more circumspect and measured than I.
                That we should engage in debate about What Nikla did/What Nikla didn’t with a rogue WoS viral strain contaminating this site matters nought on the eve of Eurmageddon.
                Tiresome trolling of the playground sort here.
                I suggest ignoring this up the garden path nonsense.

                In January, Scotland will be subsumed into England, if we do nothing.

                • Alex Clark says:

                  Agreed, “this up the garden path nonsense” has become very wearisome. It really does get boring and repetitive after a while, I won’t be playing.

    • Petra says:

      Hahaha. Good one highlighting the cr*p that’s being spouted elsewhere 😀.

  88. jfngw says:

    Over forty years of ‘trickle down economics’ so loved by the Tories and presumably Labour as they did little to change it when in office for 13 years. If you want to see how it works just have a look at Philip Green’s yacht, the trickle down is you can apply for a job to swab the deck after a party to clear up all the excrement afterwards. Obviously this is pensionable position but don’t expect to ever receive it.

    • bringiton says:

      Not so much trickle down,more “don’t pee against my leg and tell me it is raining”.

    • ArtyHetty says:

      Yep, you are so right. How many more years will Scotland put up with this BritNat inequality on stilts. It cannot be allowed to continue, the immorality is truly sickening. Scotland has a get out card, better make sure it’s the winning one in May ’21.

  89. Republicofscotland says:

    Andy Wightman a Green’s MSP has resigned from the party over the party’s approach to the transgender issue. I had a lot of time and respect for Wightman, he had solid ideas on land reform etc, of which the Scottish government didn’t go far enough on. However Wightman was a signatory to a certain inflammatory letter recently, which many folk found deflating.

    Still I wish him well.

    https://news.stv.tv/politics/andy-wightman-resigns-from-scottish-greens-over-trans-stance

  90. Republicofscotland says:

    An excellent article by Joanna Cherry, where she points out how Welsh Labour, has more of a backbone than Scottish Labour when it comes to standing up for their respective countries interests with Westminster in mind.

    Cherry also points out that the Lord Advocate is still actively hindering Martin Keating’s S30 court case, when he should be carefully crafting a Scottish government bill on independence for the courts to consider, and I thought Mullholland was a possibly the most insincere Lord Advocate of Scotland in recent times.

    https://www.thenational.scot/news/18953220.joanna-cherry-scottish-labour-stand-learn-welsh-colleagues/

  91. Petra says:

    ”Internal Market Bill: statement by the Cabinet Secretary for the Constitution, Europe and External Affairs. The Internal Market Bill is expected to be passed into law in the House of Commons on 16 December 2020. We therefore welcome and fully support the steps taken by the Welsh Government to notify the UK Government of its intention to seek a judicial review.”

    http://www.gov.scot/publications/statement-internal-market-bill/

    ……………………………………

    Patrick Grady MP:- ”Despite being torn apart in the Lords and rejected by @ScotParl, the UK govt have yet again reinserted devolution demolishing amendments to the #InternalMarketBill which will see @ScotGov bypassed in a Westminster power grab – it’s the Tories’ contempt for devolution laid bare.” https://mobile.twitter.com/GradySNP/status/1339172105494147072

  92. Petra says:

    Jeremy Miles:- ”The #InternalMarketBill is an attack on the rights of @SeneddWales to act on behalf of the people it is elected to represent. I have today notified UK Govt that should the Bill be enacted in its present form, I intend to take immediate action in Court to protect those rights.” https://mobile.twitter.com/wg_CounselGen/status/1339232419430457345

    ……………………………….

    ‘Written Statement: Possible Legal challenge to the UK Internal Market Bill.’

    https://gov.wales/written-statement-possible-legal-challenge-uk-internal-market-bill

  93. Petra says:

    ‘Drew Hendry’s speech.’ https://mobile.twitter.com/FreeThinker2030/status/1339291176076238856

    ………………………………………..

    Amazing don’t you think that we’ve actually seen a video of Drew Hendry walking out of the Commons, however for some reason or another that wasn’t picked up in the Commons at all. Concerted, eh? It’s getting close to the time for them ALL to walk and let the farmyard animals get on with destroying England only.

    https://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/2579fa12-aef6-43ea-af82-2532aed86c7f?in=17:15:20&out=17:18:08

    • Bob Lamont says:

      The actual video linked above suddenly became withdrawn by the You-Tube poster, purely voluntary of course….
      Aye, coincidence my arse. well done Drew Hendry if not for what you tried to do, but exposing the response from England’s “Let’s re-write history” Brigade….

  94. Petra says:

    We’re ”going to prosper mightily”, says Coco the Clown 🤡.

    Ian Blackford:- ”Businesses are facing crippling uncertainty from @BorisJohnson continued Brexit mess. The Scottish economy has lost £billions, with £billions more to come. Scotland rejected Brexit overwhelmingly, yet we are being made to deal with the disaster we all knew it would be. #PMQs.”

    …………………………………

    ‘Scotland has what it takes: the facts.’ 👍👍👍

    http://www.yes.scot/scottish-independence-facts/

  95. Petra says:

    Mair facts.

    90% OF SCOTLAND’S ELECTRICITY DEMAND POSSIBLE FROM RENEWABLES

    https://talkingupscotlandtwo.com/2020/12/18/90-of-scotlands-electricity-demand-possible-from-renewables/

    ……………………………..

    ‘Who owns the media? Top newspaper, website and magazine owners charted.’

    http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/digital-diversity-or-age-of-consolidation-media-ownership-2020/

  96. Petra says:

    Listen to Jacob Beast-Hogg 👺.

    James Felton:- ”Man who said the victims of Grenfell lacked common sense for not ignoring the instructions of the fire brigade says Unicef “should be ashamed of themselves” for feeding starving kids.’ https://mobile.twitter.com/JimMFelton/status/1339538377474002944

    ……………………………………………………

    ‘Waste, Negligence and Cronyism: Inside Britain’s Pandemic Spending.’

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/17/world/europe/britain-covid-contracts.html

  97. Petra says:

    A couple to give you laugh 😀.

    ”With infection rates surging and experts warning of a third wave, this is Boris and the Superspreaders with #DoTheyKnowItsCovidTime.” https://mobile.twitter.com/PoliticsJOE_UK/status/1339525764560134145

    ……………………………………….

    ”Janey Godley. When they stabbed me in the back they all laughed, well they’re not laughing now eh Boris?” https://mobile.twitter.com/JaneyGodley/status/1339571420645502981

  98. Petra says:

    Check out Ann’s links on the Indyref2 site over the last couple of days. Chock-a-block with helpful information.

    https://indyref2.space/forum/topic/links-friday-18-december-2020/

    https://indyref2.space/forum/topic/links-thursday-17-december-2020/

  99. Republicofscotland says:

    Well this is unfortunate, however the Scottish government has gone down the road of blaming Westminster because its not a devolved matter, and all the while our young men and women hooked on drugs are dying far too young and will continue to do so until the FM becomes more proactive on the matter. I said yesterday that the Lord Advocate could’ve issued the letter of comfort and waited to see if Westminster objected, live could’ve been saved in the meantime.

    If I recall correctly the FM has promised to do more with regards to drug abuse and the help folk in Scotland, horse and gate springs to mind, however its never too late to save a life when it comes to the scourge of drugs. in the Scottish government’s defence, I’m sure they’ve issued Police Scotland officers (How many I’m unsure of) with the a type of drug that can reverse the effects of opioid drugs, in the event of a overdose that can save lives.

    https://www.thenational.scot/news/18956165.joe-fitzpatrick-resigns-public-health-minister-drugs-death-crisis/

    • yesindyref2 says:

      “I said yesterday that the Lord Advocate could’ve issued the letter of comfort and waited to see if Westminster objected”

      That’s not what it’s about at all.

      https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201919/cmselect/cmscotaf/44/4407.htm

      In November 2017 the Lord Advocate declined to offer the requested guarantee on the basis that “while the Lord Advocate can make decisions as to whether or not a criminal offence will be prosecuted, he cannot alter the basic quality of the activity as criminal in law”.262 In other words, the Lord Advocate argued that the legal guarantee sought by the Partnership was beyond the scope of the dispensation he was able to offer.

      The activity would still be criminal.

      I’m afraid I’m going to take the LA’s opinion over yours, Terence. He is Scotland’s top Law officer, after all.

      • yesindyref2 says:

        Sorry Terence, that should be RoS not Terence!

      • Republicofscotland says:

        Yesindyref2.

        Yes, I think we’re all well aware of what the Lord Advocate is capable of doing and what he isn’t capable of doing. whilst Johnson’s government breaks International law, rides roughshod over the Sewell Convention, and prorogues parliament, to name a few indiscretions, our very own Lord Advocate who has no problem attempting to block a private citizen who’s doing the Scottish governments job for them, is quite content to standby and watch young Scots succumb to the scourge of drugs.

        “I’m afraid I’m going to take the LA’s opinion”

        Tell that to the grieving families who’ve lost loved ones to drugs.

        • yesindyref2 says:

          You’re wrong with most of that.

        • grizebard says:

          You very obviously don’t actually give a toss about “grieving families”, it’s just another opportunity to attack the SG in a patent echo of the usual BritNat suspects, cynically politicising whatever next comes to hand. Yesterday poor ole mistreated Edinburgh – oops that turned out to be a damp squib – today just one more variation of the usual Labourite mitigation hell. Though the FM faces up to the consequences of the problem without shirking, the plain raw fact is that it’s this utterly failed prohibition & criminalisation policy reserved to the UKGov that is fundamentally driving this misery, and everybody – including you – well knows it.

          This calculated parasitising on other peoples’ genuine hurt is thoroughly shameful.

          • Republicofscotland says:

            Grizebard.

            I have to say that I have lost a loved one to the scourge of drugs, and I’d bet other commentors in here or lurkers have also lost a loved one to drugs, so yes getting it right on the drugs front by the FM means something to me as it does others.

          • Bob Lamont says:

            “…it’s just another opportunity to attack the SG in a patent echo of the usual BritNat suspects..”
            YUP

            • Republicofscotland says:

              Bob.

              If that is the case Bob, then why is Sturgeon holding her hands up and apologising over the drug deaths in Scotland. If it were really all Britnaterry rubbish then why doesn’t the the FM provide the figures to show that it is, and why did she fire Joe Fitzpatrick.

              No Bob I fear that you’re in denial over this one, I’m all for Scottish independence the sooner the better I say, but the Scottish government do have failings and we must hold them to account on them.

              • grizebard says:

                As usual, you latch on to the superficialities (because that’s your thing, and it’s easy pickings) and ignore the root causes (because that’s hard, and doesn’t suit your ever-present agenda). It’s just as well that you’re not in charge of drug policy, because then it would all be purely for show.

                • Republicofscotland says:

                  ” It’s just as well that you’re not in charge of drug policy,”

                  Grizebard.

                  I could hardly do a worse now could I, than what Joe Fitzpatrick has done, and trying to find ways to limit the excessive drug related deaths in Scotland can hardly be called superficialities.

                  • grizebard says:

                    Just try answering the serious points made, even for once, instead of all these diversions for which you are becoming notorious.

              • Bob Lamont says:

                88 word of tripe to support your view against a singular “YUP”, that’s professionalism.
                Whatever you are your “bullshit” games are over.

  100. Petra says:

    MSM_Monitor:- ”Every year the Scottish Govt has to explain that, yes, whilst Scotland does have a drug problem, it looks much worse than other countries because Scotland records *all* deaths where *all* types of drug are found in the system.” https://twitter.com/msm_monitor/status/1338785336273539074?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

    …………………………………….

    https://talkingupscotlandtwo.com/2020/12/15/drug-deaths-how-they-want-us-to-think-of-ourselves/

    • Dr Jim says:

      I spoke about this very thing the other day, the drugs deaths are serious but the story surrounding them is a monstrous concoction and fabrication of the truth which is that Scotland has good outcomes for those who wish to engage in help and that’s why folk travel from different countries to Scotland to get the free benefit of it, in Scotland everything is counted, in other countries not so much, as some of you know I lived in Spain for a number of years and Alicante is a virtual plague of the zombies just a hundred yards from the main tourist shopping streets with milk colour eyed women already zoned out of the planet and babies in their arms begging for money for drugs, go to the Midlands in England, you’ll go once and you won’t go back, it’s a nightmare

      There’s counting and there’s counting, remember the A&E figures until those turned out to be yet another different *method* of counting then England ceased counting altogether

      All is not quite what it seems and the only reason for the noise at the moment is because ex Labour MP Paul Sweeney is travelling around in the van bumping his gums to whoever will listen, but not on camera, this is his way back into standing for a parliament near you, any parliament near anybody if he can create enough attention around his current wee project to make himself look like a good guy instead of a W

      • Alex Clark says:

        Dr Jim I have to tell you that in my opinion you are wrong. The help people might seek is not there waiting at the end of a telephone line. I have personal experience of this in trying to seek some help for someone that wanted it.

        I hit a dead end and I don’t give in lightly, the fact is, there is very little to no rehabilitation places available in the whole of Scotland. The main support comes from charities and similar self help type groups and despite their best efforts, they alone cant help as much as we might wish.

        This is not good enough in my opinion and I take it the FM agrees that Scotland must do much better, since she has decided to replace the Minister responsible for the failure to get a grip of the rising numbers of deaths. I know they are trying. but it really needs someone to get a grip and demand the funding that can make a difference. Tinkering around the edges as the numbers of deaths rise is no good and I really don’t care how these are counted or who we are compared with.

        The drug problem in Scotland has to be tackled and I think only now has that been recognised with the action taken today, It’s not just the deaths, that is waht makes the headlines but the true tale of misery that drugs leave in their trail would be difficult for most to even imagine.

        We can do better, far better.

        • yesindyref2 says:

          Till today I’d never really heard of Fitzpatrick, and that tells its own story.

          • Alex Clark says:

            Me neither.

            • yesindyref2 says:

              That was a good posting of yours by the way.

              I’ve been lucky I guess, early years all the time in pubs wacky baccy the worst of it really, and then married, kids and away from it all. But even then a friend died young of drugs (not the official cause of death) and a pal of his had a few years before. I’d stayed over there (Edinburgh) and we went out for a drink. Great people, just the drugs. I often wondered if I could have done something. Thing is, that can then take over your own life. I think, often, you just have to take people as they are.

        • grizebard says:

          We can do better, but what you are talking about here – fair enough as it is – is picking up the pieces after the smash. Essentially treating the symptoms, not the causes. We can do better at the former, as the FM clearly recognises, but you can only get so far without being able to truly tackle the latter also, and currently that is kept carefully outwith our purview. Just another example of fighting with one hand tied behind our back, accompanied by a dire chorus of complaint at how poorly we perform.

          I don’t even mean the wider societal problems that suck people under, just “the basic rules of the game” for starters. It may be rather trite to say we can only do that when we have total autonomy, since other “proper” countries have these problems also, but some of the more enlightened ones (eg. Portugal) can at least show us the way forward when we have the power (and political courage) to choose.

        • Republicofscotland says:

          Well said Alex.

        • Petra says:

          ”We can do better, far better.”

          I’m sure that we can Alex and that we will do when we get full control over drug policy in Scotland. Add to that the ability of the policy makers in an independent Scotland having the power to do something about eliminating some of the complex key factors that lead to addiction in the first place.

          ..”Most psychological addiction begins with feelings that are out of control. Strong emotions like rage, jealousy, fear and hopelessness make some people feel helpless. To quell these uncomfortable feelings, abusers turn to drugs or alcohol.”..

          http://www.beliefnet.com/wellness/health/the-psychology-behind-addiction.aspx

  101. yesindyref2 says:

    I missed that the Infernal Market Bill received Royal Assent yesterday, with Hendry grabbing the Mace, I was wondering how long it would take to become an Act:

    https://services.parliament.uk/Bills/2019-21/unitedkingdominternalmarket/stages.html

    Wales is already putting in a challenge – and that’s Labour, while Westminster Labour are patting themselves on the back for getting some amendments. Scotland is supporting and watching. I personally think their challenge might be different, but who knows! Anyways, nothing could be done before that Royal Assent which is likely to Herald the end of the Union. GSTQ!

    Some interesting stuff in this, perhaps particularly from the LD Chamberlain.

    https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2020-12-16/debates/0345D537-1535-4E8F-9106-82A7057C30E3/UnitedKingdomInternalMarketBill

    Unfortunately, as I pointed out yesterday, these changes, while positive, are too late, because the damage has already been done. The Minister heard the speeches of SNP Members yesterday, but I wonder whether he listened.

  102. yesindyref2 says:

    Okey-doke, this article clarifies the Welsh challenge is to the Administrative Court, which is England and Wales. Presumably at its Cardiff location. Which means I guess the Scottish one would be to the Court of Session. Oh, goody goody gum drops, to coin an expression!

    https://ukconstitutionallaw.org/2020/12/18/kenneth-armstrong-governing-with-or-without-consent-the-united-kingdom-internal-market-act-2020/

  103. “Second, the power of UK ministers to adopt regulations under the Act is now subject to the requirements to seek the consent of the devolved administrations. If consent is obtained then the prerogatives of the devolved institutions would be protected without the need for judicial protection. If consent is refused it is clear from the Act that it is not unlawful for a UK Minister to make regulations notwithstanding that refusal. It may not be apparent what sort of anticipatory guidance the Administrative Court will be able to offer on the interpretation of any such regulations, leaving any judicial review application vulnerable to the claim that it is premature.”

    Bang goes Holyrood.
    Aye, right.
    The Final Straw, Scotland.
    This makes a mockery of ‘consent’. The double cross; double negative of “‘not unlawful’ for a UK Minister to make regulations not withstanding that refusal”.

    They can privatise out Health Service on Monday morning and there’s fuck all that we can do about it. Pardon the French, Diggers, But this is where we are; sleepwalking into becoming a militarily occupied colony of England, on Monday morning.
    No wonder they are laughing at us in WM.
    Time to get going.

    • yesindyref2 says:

      Sorry Jack, that was me clarifying the article from Aileen McHarg – very much one of ours – which I forgot I’d not posted about.

      https://www.thenational.scot/news/18955368.internal-market-bill-chaos-display-unionism-unleashed-brexit/?action=success#comments-feedback-anchor

      or if it works better https://archive.is/02S4P

      That Armstsrong article reflects the English and Welsh legal system – and the Wales Act rather than the Scotland Act. We are in a bit of a different position, and if that makes any difference, we might soon find out. I don’t think anyone is sleepwalking into anything – this has been the endgame – if there is one – for 4 years I think.

      • yesindyref2 says:

        It’s very possible that a lot of what’s been going on is like dancing on the head of a pin, while the real action is elsewhere. In which case the question is – which is the pin? And who’s got the fecking hammer?

        Anywas, zzzzzzzz

        • From McHarg’s article:-

          “Such legal action (Welsh) is unprecedented, and its chances of success seem slim. But the turn to the courts is symbolic of a profound loss of faith in the ability of political constraints, such as the Sewel Convention, to protect devolved autonomy against the “muscular” – and centralising – Unionism that has been unleashed by Brexit.

          The UK Government maintains that it is still committed to the Sewel Convention – and indeed the consent process does appear to be operating normally outwith the context of Brexit-related legislation. Nevertheless, a constitutional rule which contains an undefined exception, which can be invoked at will by one party to disputes over its application with no prospect of any appeal to an independent adjudicator, scarcely deserves to be described as a rule at all.”
          ‘Consultation’ and ‘consent’ against the ‘muscular’ might of England, is a farce, is scarcely a rule at all.

          Can’t sleep; body clock all to pot from 9 months confinement.

          Looking forward to Scottish Spring when we rise from a year’s slumber and take back our country from the Iron Heel Oligarchy and their Jock Puppets Up Here.

  104. Ken2 says:

    The Tories will make the biggest mess and shambles. Then be voted out. Others will have to clear up their mess. They are only in power to line their pockets wasting public monies.

    Who wants the poisoned chalice. Not Labour. They campaigned to lose an election. They will be in the EU for another three years because of legal challenges

  105. Republicofscotland says:

    The Electoral Commission, which I say is a British state captured body, is delaying the independence party (AFI) Action for Independence registration until next year. (AFI) have already waited eleven weeks for the go ahead from the state captured EC to register.

    We are not playing on a level field here, the EC’s impartiality is a threat to our indy minded parties that want to take List seats from the British nationalists at Holyrood.

    • grizebard says:

      Well, they won’t take any seats from BritNats anyway, except in your dreams. More likely they’ll even gift one or two.

    • AFI …who are they ? one person ? Where did they come from what have they done ?
      We know nothing about them
      Don’t ever vote for people you know absolutely nothing about

      SNP both votes

  106. Hamish100 says:

    BBC world service playing “Disunion”, Worth listening to if not agreeing with it. Noticeable that after discussion over Scotland, Northern Ireland Wales the presenter moves onto to discuss Britain and the regions!

  107. Dr Jim says:

    Greater Manchester police fail to record 80.000 crimes, Chief Constable resigns claiming insufficient resources from government, the Mayor makes a statement and it all goes away

    See this is how England do it just don’t record anything, you can’t count it if you make it appear it didn’t happen, 80.000 crimes eh

  108. Petra says:

    ‘The Scottish General Election (Coronavirus) Bill ahead of stage 3.’

    https://spice-spotlight.scot/2020/12/18/the-scottish-general-election-coronavirus-bill-ahead-of-stage-3/

    ……………………………………………….

    ‘Guest blog: Troubled waters? Enforcement of fisheries and vessel conflicts in post-Brexit seas.’

    https://spice-spotlight.scot/2020/12/18/guest-blog-troubled-waters-enforcement-of-fisheries-and-vessel-conflicts-in-post-brexit-seas/

  109. Petra says:

    ‘Joanna Cherry: Scottish Labour could stand to learn from their Welsh colleagues.’

    ..”This is very significant because it raises the question of whether the Westminster Parliament is really as supreme as its aficionados claim. Can any Act of Parliament be overruled by a subsequent act or are some acts of such constitutional significance that subsequent acts must be read in such a way that they don’t undermine the previous act?

    The answer to this question could have considerable significance for the Scottish Parliament in defending Scottish devolution, but it could also have wider significance in relation to the status of the Act of Union and the circumstances in which the British constitution might admit of the dissolution of the Union.”..

    http://www.thenational.scot/news/18953220.joanna-cherry-scottish-labour-stand-learn-welsh-colleagues/

    ……………………………………………..

    ‘Miles of lorry queues in Kent again as businesses stockpile before Brexit.’

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-kent-lorry-queues-b1776517.html

  110. Petra says:

    ‘Boris Johnson is as incompetent as General Haig at the Somme – the price is 50,000 unnecessary deaths this year.’

    ..”Nobody knows how many more British soldiers would have survived if Haig had not been the ultimate decision maker at the Somme, but in Johnson’s case one can be more precise about his lethal influence. On 29 May, the former chief scientific adviser to the government, Sir David King, said that, “40,000 excess deaths could have been avoided if the government had reacted responsibly”. ”..

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/boris-johnson-covid-unnecessary-deaths-b1776164.html

    ……………………………………………..

    ‘Andy Wightman. Resignation letter.’ https://mobile.twitter.com/andywightman/status/1339933494231904257

  111. Petra says:

    ‘On what planet is a Tory boycott of an indyref, guaranteeing a Yes majority, a bad thing?’

    https://scotgoespop.blogspot.com/2020/12/on-what-planet-is-tory-boycott-of.html

    ……………………………..

    ‘An average of all twenty-three polls conducted this year puts support for independence at more than 53%.

    https://scotgoespop.blogspot.com/2020/12/an-average-of-all-twenty-three-polls.html

  112. Petra says:

    David Phinnemore:- ”A quick look at the German press today and it’s the question of possible Scottish independence and a ‘return home’ to the EU that’s getting more prominent coverage than the state of play in the UK-EU negotiations.” https://mobile.twitter.com/DPhinnemore/status/1339841677662547968

    …………………………………………

    Scottish Government:- ”First Minister @NicolaSturgeon has marked #MigrantsDay with a message for EU citizens. “Scotland is a better place with you living here … We really want you to stay.” https://mobile.twitter.com/scotgov/status/1339859016953065473

  113. Petra says:

    Scotland versus New Zealand. Facts 😀. Check them out.

    Plus check out IndyPosterBoy’s Independence posters, flyers, cards and banners.

    Colin Dunn:- ”Been a bit tardy lately in getting my newer material up online and available for download. New A3 poster/A6 card designs now added, and more to come. https://indyposterboy.scot/a6-cards/

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Zarkwan/status/1339888326321565698

    • grizebard says:

      This kind of direct comparison, one that cuts right through all the turgid economic smokescreens beloved of BritNattery and the BBC, and which is readily understandable to the wavering voter, is exactly the kind of re-framing that we need. A great graphic there, Colin.

      • Petra says:

        I totally agree with you grizebard. We need more of this type of data, far more, to get the message across, instead of people being bombarded with ”financial blackholes”, dodgy graphs and propaganda like gobbledygook. Right now we really need to get more information out there, imo, about our NHS. That’s a key issue that really concerns most people including the elderly No voting BritNats living in Scotland. I posted the following on the indyref2 site earlier and will repost it here.

        ………………………………

        ”Thanks for the links Ann, especially Indyposterboy’s visual chart making comparisons between an independent New Zealand and a shackled Scotland. That’s the kind of data that we should be getting out there to convince the ”undecideds” that Scotland is economically viable enough to go it alone.

        Next up the visual reality (on tv) of England’s NHS attempting to cope with the Coronavirus. We’ve witnessed winter scenes previously of stretchers lined up in hospital corridors, people lying on hospital floors, ambulances lined up outside of hospitals and the Red Cross outlining that the ENHS was facing a humanitarian crisis as seemed to be the case in 2017/18/19. One wonders what we’ll be exposed to on the BBC etc, that is if they don’t try to cover it up, this winter. Point being to all of this is that with the Internal Market Bill being passed now Westminster has the power to totally destroy our NHS in Scotland and replace it with something akin to England, or worse still. That’s what we’ve got to get across to the people of Scotland, imo, as they watch the ”horrors” unfold across England over the next few weeks or so.”

        ‘Warning: Tory Brexit legislation could be Trojan Horse for NHS privatisation.’

        ..”Blackford said: “This Tory power grab is a Trojan Horse Bill, which could open Scotland’s NHS and water services up to the kind of creeping privatisation and deregulation that we are already seeing under the Tories in England.”

        Warning: Tory Brexit legislation could be Trojan Horse for NHS privatisation | Left Foot Forward

  114. Petra says:

    ”When Scotland Rises:- The first casualty of Brexit will be Britain. Scotland is on its own path for the first time since 1707. When Scotland becomes independent, it will trigger enormous economic and political changes up here in the North West Atlantic. Mark Blyth, Professor at Brown University helps us to tease out the economics of Scottish Independence and what’s ahead for Scotland, Ireland and England.”

    http://www.stitcher.com/show/the-david-mcwilliams-podcast/episode/when-scotland-rises-80213308

    …………………………………..

    David McWilliams (born 1966) is an Irish economist, writer, and journalist. He is a faculty member of Trinity College, Dublin business school. McWilliams initially worked as an economist with the Central Bank of Ireland, UBS bank and the Banque Nationale de Paris. Since 1999, he has been a broadcaster, writer, economic commentator and documentary-maker. He has written five books, The Pope’s Children, The Generation Game, Follow the Money, The Good Room and Renaissance Nation, writes two weekly economic columns and has made various documentaries.

    McWilliams has coined several terms which have become part of everyday Irish speech, such as “breakfast roll man”. In January 2007, McWilliams was selected as one of 250 Young Global Leaders by the World Economic Forum and is a regular in the international speaker circuit.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_McWilliams_(economist)

  115. Petra says:

    MSM_Monitor:- ”Glenn Campbell is to be BBC Scotland’s next Political Editor. This 17 minute compilation of his worst anti-SNP broadcasts suggests he should be nowhere near such a role. As manipulative a reporter as we have ever seen. Watch and retweet please. Thanks.” https://mobile.twitter.com/msm_monitor/status/1339630904461959168

    ……………………………….

    More facts from Professor John Robertson.

    https://talkingupscotlandtwo.com/blog-feed/

    • For those who may have considered that I have been unduly harsh in my outright condemnation of Glenn Campbell in particular, BBC North Korea in general, over the past 5 or 6 years, I recommend that you watch this searing condemnation of the man in this 17 minute compilation of Campbell’s constant attack on what he consistently refers to as ‘the Nationalists’.
      What’s happening to the Hon Sarah Smith?

      I’ll dance a tune as they lower them doon, come independence.

  116. Petra says:

    Unicef UK:- ”A statement from Unicef UK on Funding of UK Food Programmes.” https://mobile.twitter.com/UNICEF_uk/status/1339579425483083776

    …………………………………………

    Check out Ann’s latest links on the Indyref2 site.

    https://indyref2.space/forum/topic/links-saturday-19-december-2020/

  117. Hamish100 says:

    Oh, how I wish Alex Salmond was still FM, because let’s be clear, we would already have had our referendum and be independent.

    No this is not me. On a blog emanating from Bath. It seems to have been lost on the individual blogger on the site that we already tried that, had Salmond as leader, but lost the referendum.
    There is no next time.

    As a fact check under any leader of the SNP, Wolfe, Wilson, Salmond, Swinney and earlier when have we ever had such good polls for Independence. When will the ducks in a row be lined up so fortuitously for us.

    2021 the year of SNP and an Independence win.

    • Dr Jim says:

      The current FM has done and is doing the groundwork and not doing deals with Westminster
      and that’s how Scotland will win, preparation preparation preparation

      The Brits and their media have embarrassed themselves today by not reporting that the whole of Europe’s press is talking about Prime Minister Nicola Sturgeon and Scotland, did they think we wouldn’t notice

      Alex Salmond allowed Westminster and their media full control to run the last referendum that’s why they knew from the start they would win it and why Nicola Sturgeon said she wanted to win the next referendum not just hold one, maybe now some of them will realise the importance of that statement and what it cost her

    • They have all been good
      There is no either or as far as Nicola Sturgeon and Alex Salmond are concerned
      Both are absolutely superb leaders both clever astute and honourable people

      I’m tired of people trying to say either or
      I’m tired of people saying one is better than the other
      There’s no competition between them none whatsoever

      They are both Scottish independence stalwarts life long commitment I adore them both

      • Hamish100 says:

        My admiration is clear for both. AS let us down though.

        • grizebard says:

          Ach, that’s a little harsh, Hamish. It could reasonably argued that it was the very inverse, that it was the people of Scotland who let AS down. I suspect he thought at the time that the opportunity for IR1 when it came was somewhat premature, but that he had to take it, and that he could swing enough voters over to win it anyway. And he nearly succeeded despite (or because of?) the negativity of Bitter Together and its media collaborators.

          One crucial consequence being that it forced Unionism to nail its colours to the mast with all those promises of great wonders to come, all of which have been conclusively proved by subsequent events to have been nonexistent. Scotland gave Unionism a last chance that it arrogantly spurned, so it will be coming to the next confrontation with absolutely nothing to offer but empty negativity.

          Scotland has somehow always moved at the second attempt, so nothing new there. No wonder the BritNats are totally funking it.

      • Republicofscotland says:

        Terence.

        The only thing I can add to that is that Salmond has form when it comes to independence referendums, he’s the only FM ever to take us to one. As the saying goes he talked the talk and walked the walk.

        • Dr Jim says:

          He talked the talk and walked the walk and never prepared and Scotland lost

          • Republicofscotland says:

            Dr. Jim.

            That’s extremely harsh if you ask me, Salmond was up against the entire British nationalist establishment, not just in the rest of the UK but in Scotland as well, he took us from the mid-twenties percentage wise to forty-five percent at the end, whilst fighting one of the most powerful propaganda machines on Earth, I thought he did remarkably well under the circumstances.

            It would be more than fair to say that he (Salmond) has laid the ground work for any future referendum.

            • Dr Jim says:

              Nicola Sturgeon is up against the entire British establishment and the home grown variety as well
              His remarkably well was to sign Scotland up to a referendum that Westminster controlled and made no formal complaint about the UK government ignoring and breaking the fundamental principles of referendums as set out by the UN as to no direct political interference in one country or region seceding from another

              When it comes to the former FM I will always be harsh, the SNP isn’t and wasn’t Alex Salmond’s party, the SNP is my party and I was paying for it before Alex Salmond, I paid him to represent me and he got paid to do it, he held the highest political position in Scotland and abused it, “I admit I’m no angel” that let the entire Nation down, it’s not about whether he was a nice man or a likeable chappie with a good sense of humour who just slipped up, we all know that but he had a job and a responsibility to all of us 5.5 million people and I’d love to have a long talk and a pint with him as a man but as a political figure I’m glad to see the back of him and pray he stays in the background lest his presence and now notoriety destroys Scottish Independence

              If Nicola Sturgeon had behaved similarly I’d be saying the exact same thing, party first, if people step out of line they know how it goes

            • Petra says:

              “Salmond was up against the entire British nationalist establishment”, as is Nicola Sturgeon now or hadn’t you noticed? Add to that you and your mates seem to have turned coat and have united with the BNE in attacking Nicola Sturgeon. Somehow or another I doubt that AS admires you lot, including your boss, for doing that.

              • Republicofscotland says:

                Petra.

                I have no idea what BNE stands for, as for turncoat Petra, I, and I’m, sure the majority of other who criticise Sturgeon, vehemently support Scottish independence, the debate surrounds whether or not Sturgeon is willing, or even capable of delivering it.

  118. Alex Clark says:

    Is this even remotely possible? Is Johnson the most useless PM ever? No need to answer that.

    Britons have been left furious by Boris Johnson’s plans to cancel Christmas for millions in London and the South East with just a few days’ notice.

    The PM has summoned an emergency press conference this afternoon after holding crisis talks with Cabinet – with signs that swathes of the home counties, including London, will be shifted up to a new ‘Tier 4’.

    That bracket will potentially include closing non-essential shops and travel restrictions including ‘stay at home’ order for Christmas Day itself, even though Mr Johnson insisted just days ago that five-day festive ‘bubbles’ would go ahead.

    https://archive.vn/wip/2TNhe

    Warning link above is to the Daily Fail.

    He’s due to give an “emergency” briefing at 16:00 on the telly, described by Sky News as “the most significant press conference he’s given to date”.

  119. Jacksg says:

    Nicola Sturgeon is holding a press conference at 5.30 BBC Scotland Channel. Guaranteed that she will turn up on time and her message will be precise and to the point.

  120. grizebard says:

    It seems that England will now copy Scotland in its levels (but of course there will be no public recognition of that).

    • Bob Lamont says:

      Even in forums such as these, there will be a drone along shortly (RoS ?) to ensure that doesn’t happen, more likely “Disrespecting Schotchland” will have a feature shortly with the views of the Titmeitser himself DRoss explaining everything 🤣.
      I’m convinced the electorate are a lot more savvy, spin as the media will, they lost trust along with the Tories quite a ways back…

  121. Petra says:

    It looks as though Nicola is closing the border. No travel between Scotland and England and vice versa (unless considered to be essential). Backed by the Law. Mainland Scotland going into level 4 from Boxing Day. Guidelines about International travel into Scotland being announced tomorrow. Kids not going back to school on the date announced previously.

    • And no’ before time, Petra.
      I loved the hacks ‘what do you say to people who have already bought presents and made their travel plans’, themed moan at the Briefing.

      Scotland’s infection rate half that of England’s, a third that of Wales….
      Thank the Chief that we have NS and a fabulous medical team managing this terrible time for us.
      Cue the Dead Tree Scrolls front pages with photies of families in Canada Leamington and Torremolinos who have booked flights to visit Granny…NS the Grinch…
      Comrade Flanagan will be calling the teachers out on strike…

      • Bob Lamont says:

        Enter Northern Guvnor General Jack stage left on Pacific Quay in his best LeMesurier pose to deliver in the usual tired manner “Honi soit qui mal y pense”, believing it means “don’t damage my pennies”, Ian Murray enter stage right clad entirely in RWB not feeling in the slightest a pense yet looking entirely the part uttering the immortal words “Ug”, and Glen Campbell wondering whether a 3 piece camo suit would be going too far for his next Fife OB…

      • Petra says:

        BBC online reporting that hundreds of cases of the new virulent strain of the virus is being reported in Wales. Head over to BBC’s English section and there’s no mention of the stats there at all, surprise, surprise, even although we know from other sources that it’s rife now in London and the south and east of England.

        Then they interviewed individuals on the street (London?). Three out of four of them said that they wouldn’t be abiding by the new rules. Adamant smart Alecs. Now if that was someone identified as endangering someone’s life at a football match the Police would be hammering on their door. The same should apply to these selfish bast*ards. I’m also the last person to advocate propaganda by omission, however the BBC reporting this as being a majority view at this time just encourages others to follow suit, imo.

        Thank God Nicola Sturgeon has decided to close the border and loooong may it continue. And yes we know that the BritNat politicians and journalists will try to undermine her in every possible way but I reckon that millions of Scots will be breathing a sigh of relief tonight due to knowing that they have a leader that they can trust and rely on which will hopefully lead to that border being closed for evermore.

        • grizebard says:

          The broadcast media’s use of “vox pops” has long since been utterly discredited, I would claim. Even if you merely catch the first three or four people who happen to pass by, there’s no way they are likely to be fairly representative of any range of common sentiment, and there is a growing suspicion that they’re more often selected at edit time to support whatever editorial line is being pushed.

          Frankly, I believe they should be outlawed by journalistic ethics. Personally, like phone-ins, I just automatically switch off/switch over, whatever the subject(s).

  122. Petra says:

    ‘Covid in Scotland: ‘Strict’ travel ban between nations.’

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotland-55377804

    • Republicofscotland says:

      Yes Petra, STV news carried the story as well, back to Tier Four come Boxing Day for a minimum of three weeks, no cross border travel either unless its essential. A new virulent strain of Covid-19 is the culprit, as far as I’m aware it first arose in London and the South East, several cases were reported in Glasgow earlier this week, the shutdown is to stop it spreading and overwhelming our NHS.

      The 18th of January is the date touted to exit Tier Four, we shall see if mainland Scotland comes out of it on that date or not.

      • Bob Lamont says:

        “A new virulent strain of Covid-19 is the culprit, as far as I’m aware it first arose in London and the South East, (nowhere else across the entire globe apparently and which no scientist has yet been able to identify only Matt “Crying” Handcock) several cases were reported in Glasgow earlier this week” – BY WHOM ?
        Have you got the faintest idea how long genomic sequencing takes to complete ?
        What are your motives for this nonsense ? Seriously.

        • yesindyref2 says:

          Steady on.

          According to the BBC “the discovery of a virus mutation which has taken hold in the south of England

          From the dictionary:

          “arose
          (of a problem, opportunity, or situation) emerge; become apparent”

          The use of the word “arose” in the sense “became apparent” was completely appropriate.

          • Bob Lamont says:

            Steady on IR2 ?

            Repeating what Hancock and the media say without any scientific verification, proof, etc is what got the rUK into this mess in the first place, science following the politics.

            Most scientists are still scratching heads over this alleged SE England mutation, but all are agreed it is unlikely to be much different to what is known already, no more infectious nor troublesome, if it indeed exists at all other than in the fevered minds of the political spin machine, who have reason to create a NEW threat to mask their failure to deal with the existing.

            Yet what RoS alleges is “several cases were reported in Glasgow earlier this week”.
            I say again – PROOF.

            • yesindyref2 says:

              New strain of covid found in nine Glasgow cases Nicola Sturgeon confirms

              https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/new-covid-variant-strain-glasgow-19462555

              With attacks on posters outside the six pack, this blog below the line is becoming more and more unwelcoming to new posters than even the previous most unwelcoming one. One new poster was driven off by the grammar police for missing out an inverted comma and has never been back, and another one was gang-banged about something unimportant, I forget what, it was so unimportant.

              Now, if you like, you can apologise to RoS, for your attack, instead of digging yourself even deeper. But I doubt if you will.

              If the undecided or soft NOes ever ventured on here to seek opinions and debate, they’d run away screaming with their tails between their legs, and vote NO for the next 313 years if they lived long enough.

              • yesindyref2…I see what you are saying but Scottish independence supporters put up with a lot and have done for a long time starting from a point where the whole media provide disinformation day in day out ,this results in them being on their toes ALLTHE TIME ready for the next disinformation representative, if it happens to be you, watch out , they will let rip but it doesn’t last , from what I’ve seen people here are looking for discussion and opinion even if it’s different.

          • Republicofscotland says:

            Yesindyref2.

            And your 8.24pm, you’ve obviously read similar article on this to me, thank you for pointing this out as well.

        • Legerwood says:

          Bob,
          Genomic sequencing is now automated therefore does not take as long as it previously did when it was done manually – pour the gel, allow to set, etc etc. A hellish process which took several days and only revealed partial sequences therefore took a long time to process an entire genome. I know because that is how I had to do it when I was doing my PhD.

          A percentage of Samples of the virus from those testing positive are sent to Porton Down for sequencing in order to identify and track which strains are circulating around the UK. That is how they identified this variant and identified its locations across the UK.

          A few -3 or 4 I think – it was announced that 9 cases had been identified in Glasgow and that has now increased to 17. Note that that will be in a small set of the samples sent to PD. Therefore there is likely to be more cases as yet unidentified but I expect that they will be looking for it more widely now. Probably in Care homes and hospital outbreaks especially from what was said in the briefing tonight.

          Here is a useful article from the BMJ on the new variant:

          https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4857

          • Bob Lamont says:

            Cheers for the BMJ info, didn’t realise there were so many variants in circulation, this particular variant identified late September now maxing at 20% population in Norfolk.
            What I found most striking was ““This variant is strongly associated with where we are seeing increasing rates of covid-19. It’s a correlation, but we can’t say it is causation. But there is striking growth in this variant, which is why we are worried, and it needs urgent follow-up and investigation” – Granted, but that is a far cry from the dangerous mutation Hancock implies.
            The political choices which failed controls in England are having far reaching consequences, if only the politicians were actually following the science….

            • Legerwood says:

              Bob,
              There are quite a few variants. Often the mutations that allow them to identify different strains occur in non-coding part of the messenger RNA of the virus so make no difference to its performance or effect and the virus does have some proof reading capacity which also helps to limit mutations. But sequencing is a useful way of identifying different strains and, importantly, where they came from. The current major strain in circulation in the UK seems to have originated in Spain in the summer and entered the UK via returning holidaymakers. is a useful. It made up about 80% of the strains in circulation up until recently.

              I watched the Devi Sridhar interview that you provided the link to. During the course of the interview she mentioned that in Scotland by June/July genome sequencing showed that all of the imported strains ie the strains that came into Scotland in February/March and spread through the Country had all but been eliminated. Thus any that were in circulation at that time at a low level were ‘homegrown’ variations. Quite a thought how close we came in the summer to elimination in Scotland.

              • Bob Lamont says:

                Indeed, the genomic tracing work has proven quite fascinating, but as Sridhar also pointed out in the interview, touching on our current circumstance, how England behaves ultimately dictates our own condition, we can only mitigate the effects.

        • Republicofscotland says:

          Bob

          Motives?

          • Bob Lamont says:

            Ah yes, “motives” was perhaps harsh, but thanks to links provided by Legerwood and IndyRef2, the “new virulent strain of Covid-19 is the culprit” is indeed nonsense.
            In context the new strain forms a tiny fraction of tested cases, only found in Greater Glasgow and Clyde, virulence and infectivity as yet unknown, it is general levels of Covid which are causing the lockdown, not Hancock’s excuse for systemic failure in England.

            • yesindyref2 says:

              The Scottish Government and the First Minister disagree with you:

              Restrictions tightened due to spread of new variant of COVID-19.

              Scotland will significantly tighten protections against Coronavirus (COVID-19) to prevent the spread of the new, highly contagious strain of the virus.

              Following confirmation that the new variant of COVID-19 spreads substantially more quickly, the First Minister announced that Scotland needs to act now.

              https://www.gov.scot/news/new-guidance-issued-for-the-festive-period/

              • grizebard says:

                Yes, from Saturday’s briefing, this is clearly her justification. Hospital cases in Scotland, though, have been on the up again for near the last fortnight, as I mentioned a few days ago, so it was overdue on that account alone. But kudos for doing it anyway, because doing something which goes right against the grain like that at a time like this takes a lot of courage for any politician.

                The analysis of infectivity comes from England, of course, but I think we can trust that it’s purely science-based, and its implications heavy-duty enough down south to even make BoJo the Clown do something.

              • Republicofscotland says:

                Yesindyref2.

                You seem to be on the ball Yesindyref2, well done.

      • grizebard says:

        We call it “levels” here. But then you’re in (tune with) England, aren’t you?

        • yesindyref2 says:

          Nicola Sturgeon announces new Scotland-wide lockdown from Boxing Day with most of country in tier four

          Daily Record, 1 hour ago.

          • grizebard says:

            The >>BritNat<< press. QED.

            I prefer myself to get my information and terminology direct from the SG.

          • Golfnut says:

            Nicola announced level 4, as did Swinney, even the bbc managed to get it right.

          • yesindyref2 says:

            Level 4 is the correct term in Scotland, and I’ve complained about this btl on The National. They get it right. Readership 11,626.

            Much of the press in Scotland gets it wrong, maybe deliberately who knows,, and since for instance The Record has a readership of 103,222 in 2020 (compared to 227,639 in 2014), they’re entitled to get it wrong also – and perhaps people who post there btl. If you post in places like the Express or DT, you tend to speak the lingo.

            • grizebard says:

              Or indeed the other way round, if you commonly get it in from the BritNat media because that’s your regular go-to news source rather than the “upstart” in Bute House. You can get tells about the leanings of people from the vocabulary they (choose to) use.

          • Petra says:

            It’s not Scotland wide as far as I know. Mainland Scotland only. Not the islands.

  123. Golfnut says:

    I have said this before, but it’s worth repeating. The media, particularly in Scotland, have a lot to answer for. Was it not just a few days ago that the bbc were referring to covid19 in Scotland as the Scottish strain.

  124. Alex Clark says:

    This seems quite unbelievable to me and then I remember it’s Johnson we are talking of. For two weeks Imperial College and Edinburgh University have been investigating this new strain of the virus. He knew that on Wednesday when he said he wanted everyone just to have a “little Xmas” but that the 3 household bubble with unlimited numbers was still OK. Less than 72 hours later that has been turned on its head.

    “Just so you know, the work to identify the worry increased transmissability of the new Covid-19 strain was done by a team from Public Health England, Imperial Coll and Edinburgh Univ over past two weeks, working flat out. They calculated it increases R by 0.4 or more and…”

    He will fall on his sword soon, his own party and the media will be baying for his blood.

  125. Alex Clark says:

    Guess it comes up twice if you don’t put the link on a line of its own. Lesson learned.

    By the way, I was certain that this “new strain” being more infectious was a political angle being used to cover up the failure of the Tories to get the numbers down in England even with a 4 week full lockdown. Now that more information is coming out I’m not so sure that my original opinion was the correct one. I do believe the scientists but not the politicians but it is only now we are getting to hear of their work on this.

    By the way, Nicola Sturgeon said on Thursday that 10 cases of the new strain had been identified in Scotland, and today she said there were 17 cases now but thought that was likely an under estimate.

  126. Hamish100 says:

    Och weel, Prince Charles and his bidey in, will need to stay where they are. Makes the royal train nonesense with his son & co seem even more pathetic.

  127. Capella says:

    Euronews says that they have known about the new variant since September. It’s related to the variant found in mink.

    https://www.euronews.com/2020/12/19/what-we-know-about-the-uk-s-more-infectious-coronavirus-strain

  128. Petra says:

    Starts around 12 minutes in.

    ‘Scotland’s First Minister Nicola Sturgeon news briefing.’

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQxx5xKq0Es

    • grizebard says:

      That website – and all its many related spawn – is a notorious conspiracy-theory rabbit hole (at best). Here’s eg. what rationalwiki.org says (in part) about it: “Globalresearch is an “anti-Western” website that can’t distinguish between serious analysis and discreditable junk — and so publishes both. It’s basically the moonbat equivalent to Infowars or WND. […] Globalresearch acts as both a fake news clearinghouse, and as a source for originally-written fake news.”

      You can easily check for yourself, just google “globalresearch” and “conspiracy theory” together and you can count the number of hits literally in the hundreds of thousands.

      Rationalwiki also comments: “Whenever someone makes a remarkable claim and cites GlobalResearch, they are almost certainly wrong.” Keep that in mind and you’ll stay both sane and credible to your peers (if your peers aren’t rabbit-hole tunnellers themselves, that is). Trust me on this.

  129. I seriously believe that what’s left of Scottish Labour Branch Office must mount a ‘Caine Mutiny’. and depose the clearly deranged GMB Shop Steward Commie , that Dick Leonard, before he presides over the End of Socialism in Scotland; that would be Scotland, the ‘nation’, not the ‘separate state’ ( meaning ‘separation’ from the non State/ non Country/ non nation, that is the ‘UK’ , or ‘Britain’, presumably).

    McNab in the online Sunday Hootsman, (circulation 1750?) indulging in the tired old ‘cut and pastry’ constitutional convention nonsense, yet again.

    As Leonard demands proof that the whole world’s Draconian Christmas Lockdown is justifiable, and his declaration via McNabb’s cut and paste Brit Nat Tomfoolery that he and he alone should chair a Constitutional Convention once Keir (or is it ‘Kier’?) Starmer is elected as PM in 2024, I am reminded of the ‘strawberry investigation’, in the Caine Mutiny during which the officers of the Caine must watch while a clearly insane Captain Queeg (an excellent Humphrey Bogart) ‘proves’ that there is pilfering in the galley as he orders a galley steward to count out portions from a tin of strawberries as ‘evidence’ that pilfering on the USS Minesweeper is rife.
    This man Leonard is clearly Labour in the Branch’s Captain Queeg.

    On any level this man Leonard has been thrust forward as the Commie Shop Stewards’ Placeman to finally destroy New Labour and Blair’s doppelganger, the millionaire knight, Starmer.

    MacNab even squeezes in the notion that old Clunking Fist Brown will champion Brit Nat Federalism and, wait for it, a ‘Reform of the House of Lords’.

    You have to wonder; have the Brit Nat Jock Hackery really lost their collective marbles, or are they under threat to write such clearly arrant nonsense or be sacked?

    A band of Winston Smiths, or more prosaically a House of Lords Haw Haw.

    Of course, we should not dismiss the distinct possibility that some of them actually believe the dross which they churn out diurnally.

    Not.

    Seriously, days ago, Monica Lennon was the Great Red Hope?
    The woman who tweeted that the Louisa Jordan was a waste of money?

    Stay safe, everybody.

    • ArtyHetty says:

      It’s certainly very odd, Jack, but the fact that Labour in Scotland are a UK, England HQ’d party is the problem, they take their orders from London. Looks like it’s a case of ordering them to self destruct in Scotland. Dick Leotard is not a very effective puppet, but they have no one else. The Tories have self destructed in Scotland, LibDums hardly count. Makes you wonder if the BritNat agenda might be to destroy these factions of the England HQ’d parties, deliberately.
      That Jo whats her name back in 2014(?) said ‘ the Scots are not genetically programmed to do politics’. How she is still ‘doing politics’ is quite a mystery, taking a lucrative wage from the public purse to boot. To have actually publicly said that about Scotland, should render anyone unfit for public office, anywhere.

      Devilution was a con, a trap, a scam. The BritNats thought they could keep full control of Scotland my how that was not to be though. It has to end, devolution is no longer enough for Scotland, and independence is crucial to Scotland’s democracy and in fact survival. The fact that live forever Betty signed off the internal market bill, was a slap in the face to Scotland, for banning her lot from swanning into Scotland at will, spreading a bloody deadly virus! These jumped up greedy, selfish, entitled to everything on a gold plate types are a disgrace. Whoever says she has no power and just waves from her limo, is living in cloud cuckoo land. She may have just signed away Scotand’s right to self determination. However let’s see what happens when Scotland regains their independence, because another countrys’ royals will be surplus to requirements in a true democracy.

  130. jfngw says:

    It’s hard to not see the current UK cabinet as a particularly bad season of The Apprentice, a stream people with woefully meagre ability parading before you recanting scripted claims of their extraordinary business acumen, overseen by a purveyor of crap hailed as a guru by his media devotees. Every task turning into a shambles, running around like headless chickens then claiming it was a unparalleled success. And at the end of it someone pockets a good reward.

    • ArtyHetty says:

      That really does sound like the UKok reality, who is really running the show, whoever they are, they are certainly taking the p**s out of the people. Brexit is the most backward, idiotic, stupid, dangerous, destructive act and it’s being forced onto Scotland, bloody tragic, if Scotland does not escape the scam that is the UK, very soon.

    • Julia Gibb says:

      A frighteningly accurate picture of the current UK Government!
      Unfortunately that image is now locked in my mind 🙁

  131. jfngw says:

    Wow, just had my first visit to WoS BTL for a while. It’s like United We Stand by the Brotherhood of Mad over there. Some seem to have a chip on their shoulder so big I would think it is improbable they can stand up straight.

    • Petra says:

      It’s become an absolute farce now between their obsession in getting rid of Nicola Sturgeon and replacing her with Alex Salmond and Stuart Campbell 🤣, bickering amongst themselves and becoming virologists overnight. I don’t have much time for Craig Murray either but he at least has some fairly intelligent individuals contributing to his site.

  132. Republicofscotland says:

    Well the Tory branch manager in Scotland is at it again claiming that his branch office would boycott any independence referendum that doesn’t have Johnson’s consent, in effect Ross is saying we’re not participating in a democratic referendum on independence because we know we’re going to lose it.

    In my opinion the Tory branch office in Scotland cannot be allowed to hold an entire nation hostage when it comes to holding of a second indyref.

    https://www.thenational.scot/news/18957511.scottish-tories-holyrood-ballot-boycott-could-dent-indyref2-expert-warns/

  133. jfngw says:

    I see Neil “I’m not having it” Oliver is revolting, but what I really need to know is, is he using Harmony Hairspray.

  134. jfngw says:

    Such a day of entertainment, following on from ‘The Oliver’ we have ‘The Galloway’:

    “I’m crossing it on Monday. Sturgeon won’t stop me.”

    That’s George ‘The Cat’ Galloway, as he tries to skulk back into Scotland in his disguise under a hat. I see him as The Bambino of cats.

    • Dr Jim says:

      Don’t let that get wet and don’t feed it after midnight

    • Republicofscotland says:

      jfngw.

      Galloway’s party for next years Scottish elections has had its name rejected by the Electoral Commission, he’s since changed it and is awaiting consent to use the new name by the EC.

      Galloway once said, that if you see me standing under the Union Jack shoulder to shoulder with the Tories shoot me, or words to that effect. He’s well aware of the machinations of Westminster, yet he hope to keep Scotland chained up in this horrible union.

  135. Petra says:

    If Police Scotland doesn’t step up to the plate and deal appropriately with this critical issue the Scots will NEVER forgive them. And if they don’t, maybe Brian Lucey had a valid point to make after all when he said (Dec 17 at 11:08 pm) …

    ”You need, above all, the police on side. Have you??”

    ‘Covid in Scotland: Police say travel ban will be ‘last resort’.’

    ..”Assistant Chief Constable Alan Speirs has now said enforcement of the travel restrictions would continue to be a “last resort”. He added that the force would not change its approach to policing the restrictions.”..

    http://www.thenational.scot/news/18957437.covid-scotland-police-say-travel-ban-will-last-resort/

    ………………………………………………………..

    Then ACC Alan Spiers boss, Chief Constable lain Livingstone, says “highly visible patrols” on roads will be used to “deter anyone who night be considering breaching the coronavirus travel restrictions”.

    ‘Covid-19 variant: Police doubling patrols on Scotland England border.’

    http://www.thenational.scot/news/18957987.covid-19-variant-police-doubling-patrols-scotland-england-border/

    • yesindyref2 says:

      Petra, as well as Alex’s perfect summary of him above, he’s an agitator, would like nothing better than to see posters talking about violence on the streets so he could write a blog about how violent we are and there will be blood running in rivers of his furtive imagination, and back in the day in the good old days of Wings, his comment in 2016 about SNP on “we will declare UDI” – got the reply from Rev Stu “BZZT! You lose the game.”.

      https://wingsoverscotland.com/waiting-on-the-guns/#comment-2188145

      • Petra says:

        He’s a bl**dy psychopath and if ever there was an excellent example, as to how much he gets wrong and twists and turns, that article that you’ve just posted must be it. WELL worth a read keeping in mind that we still don’t know if there’s to be a deal or not FOUR years after he posted that article! And that applies to Nicola Sturgeon too of course.

        ”Because if an independent Scotland was going to be staying in the EU, then the trade deal with the rUK would already be in place, because the EU would just have negotiated it for us. And if – as is now the prevailing wisdom – that deal turned out to be basically “Bend over, Britain, this is going to hurt you a lot more than it hurts us”, then the economic arguments in favour of independence would be the strongest they’re ever likely to be in the lifetime of anyone reading this site.”..

      • grizebard says:

        Ah, so that’s where my dim memory of him comes from. He does seem to harbour a deal of barely-suppressed ill will, as if he wishes Irish history of 100 years ago to be literally replicated here. Oddly atavistic, especially for a scholar.

    • yesindyref2 says:

      Oh, yeah, I got taken in a bit at the time. Smacks own head.

  136. dannybaws says:

    Will we see any papers or parties (or at least a faction) turning before the next ref? I doubt it. Doubt even Henry McLeish will come out for indy. Eugh. Can’t even get anyone to report properly on the power grab!

  137. Dr Jim says:

    Dross says Unionists will boycott any referendum on Independence held in Scotland thus making any result null and void, in other words they will ignore democracy just like they ignored the result of Scotland’s democratic vote on the Brexit referendum that Scotland didn’t want to take part in

    Whether Scotland votes for or against something it matters neither way to the British Nationalists
    proving that Scotland should have a vote on anything it wants, just because the British don’t want to engage in democracy because they don’t care for the answers is the very essence of why we must present the opportunity for democracy for all to take part in or not, and when you come to think seriously about what Dross is saying, his political argument is about intending to instruct people not to vote in a democratically arranged referendum, that’s a wee bitty 1930s Germany sounding isn’t it ?

    • bringiton says:

      England’s Tory party think they have a veto over democracy in Scotland
      Unless we do something about it,they will.

    • jfngw says:

      It’s irrelevant what the Tories/BritNats say, it’s how the international community view the result that counts. If they say they will respect the vote then they and their masters in Westminster can go whistle for all I care. Maybe having it overseen by an international body would work in our favour, less likely to be disregarded then, gaining international support is important. I think that’s what NS and the SNP have been working on since 2014, despite what the WoS crowd think.

    • Bob Lamont says:

      Yup. Between herd immunity, dairy farms, and democracy, the Forres Gimp is the gift which keeps gabbing…

  138. Republicofscotland says:

    Tory John Lamont from the Scottish branch office is demanding to know why Police Scotland are to double up patrols on the border with England.

    I myself would’ve thought the answer to that would pretty obvious, to stop unnecessary cross border travel, and if Lamont would’ve taken a minute to think it through rather than railing over this logical move he’d realise the doubling up of officers is to keep Scots in, as well as keeping out folk travelling without a good reason into Scotland.

    But of course Lamont is a typical Tory, screaming down anything that’s beneficial to Scotland that’s not first had consent from his boss Johnson or Westminster in general.

    We could well do without people like him in Scotland come independence.

    https://www.thenational.scot/news/18958134.coronavirus-scotland-tory-mp-demands-know-police-doubling-border-patrols/

    • Petra says:

      Child of Alba 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿:- ”I’ve just had a horrific thought. Johnstone’s Internal Market Bill comes into effect on January 1st. Which suddenly gives him power to overrule ScotGov on pandemic policy. I hope Scots refuse to accept him taking over management of C19 in Scotland. 😳” https://mobile.twitter.com/ChildOfAlba/status/1340380046582837250

      …………………………………

      ‘The sooner we are in charge of our own future, the better.’

      http://www.snp.org/the-sooner-we-are-in-charge-of-our-own-future-the-better/

      • Republicofscotland says:

        Indeed Petra, its all about rolling back devolution for Johnson and his Scottish lackey Ross, with the EU out of the way, who’ll stand up and fight our case. I know you don’t want to read or hear this Petra, but Sturgeon will need step up to the plate next year, not just on independence but on fighting off Johnson and Ross and the Scottish Office, all of which will be trying to negate Holyrood’s powers.

        Next year is a monumental year for Scotland and its future.

        • Petra says:

          Nicola Sturgeon has been ”stepping up to the plate” since she took over from Alex Salmond, RoS. Polling results alone highlight that fact. Not forgetting either that she’s had to contend with the same massive network of enemies that Alex had to deal with plus the Ming over Scotland posse. Alex didn’t have to deal with Brexit or a Coronavirus pandemic either, but still lost in 2014.

          It’s high time that you, and your ilk, stopped running her down to the ground elsewhere and got right behind her. It’s that kind of action that she’ll need to fight off the British establishment, per se, and lead this country to freedom. You should also take a look at the article that yesindyref2 posted at 5:42pm, for ONE, to see how your boss been leading you all up the garden path. The latest of course is that we have gone from NS being one of 3 women involved in the AS cabal (dropped now) to NS should resign because she knew about AS 5 days before she said she did. If that’s the best that he can come up with it’s pathetic and his days are numbered. What’s he going to write about when it becomes clear that Indyref2 will be held next year? What will his groupies have to complain about then? I suppose that he can still cram in even more shit stirring lies between now and the 6th May, with 137 days to go, in an attempt to bring the SNP down and scupper Indyref2, but I don’t see it working as he’s becoming a laughing stock online now. An ar*e in other words.

          • Petra says:

            ‘Broadcasting Scotland.”

            ”Broadcasting Scotland is growing. 2021 is going to be an important year for Scotland and we need your support to be able to report on all the major events. We have the technical ability and capacity to report live from our studio and have remote feeds from every count for the Holyrood Election in May and Indyref2021 when it is called, but what we need now are to people to produce the programmes made in Scotland for Scotland, that people in Scotland want to watch. If the news from Pacified Quay can get 4000 viewers (allegedly) then surely an independent Scottish Broadcaster can do better, with your support.

            Last year, we invested heavily in our facilities but this year, we have an ambitious crowdfunding target of £100,000 so that we can recruit the journalists and production staff to produce quality live television news.

            Please use the button below to donate to Broadcasting Scotland to help us achieve our goals.”

            http://www.broadcastingscotland.scot/

          • Republicofscotland says:

            Unlike you Petra, I don’t have blind faith in Sturgeon leading us to an independence referendum, oh don’t get me wrong I sincerely hope she does, but with an election on the horizon talk of independence is rife from all the usual suspects within the SNP ranks, so forgive me if I’m not one- hundred percent on Sturgeon’s wagon, as we’ve heard it all before Brexit being the most notable.

            As for fighting the establishment Salmond, as I said in an earlier comment left her on forty-five percent in 2014, we’ve climbed now into the mid-fifties which is good not because of what Sturgeon has done, but because of Brexit, and because Johnson is the most inept and nasty PM in years, add that Covid-19 has been a boon to Sturgeon politically, she’s never had so much airtime, and its been reflected in her popularity ratings.

            Take Brexit the virus out of the equation, and the nasty inept buffoon that is Johnson, and I doubt Sturgeon would’ve had the charisma to add much more to Salmond’s forty-five percent.

            in my opinion, Brexit should’ve rigger an indyref, why wait another four years, knowing that come the 31st of December, we’d have no protection from the EU, however the four years wait conveniently ends with a rallying call from Sturgeon to vote for the SNP and independence.

            As I said I hope you’re right and I’m wrong.

            As for Wings Over Scotland, I comment on it as I do here and other blogs, why are folk in here so obsessed by it, strange.

            • Petra says:

              ”In my opinion, Brexit should’ve rigger an indyref, why wait another four years.”

              Because we would have lost 4 years ago. That’s why.

              ”knowing that come the 31st of December (2020) we’d have no protection from the EU.”

              No one knew how this would pan out and when it would end not even Bath’s answer to the Westminster Messiah.

              You don’t just comment on there at all. As I’ve said already you are party to bringing Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP down.

              • Republicofscotland says:

                Petra

                “Because we would have lost 4 years ago. That’s why.”

                Really, and you know this for sure, yet in your next sentence you say” No one knew how this would pan out”

            • Republicofscotland…..why do you always refer to Nicola sturgeon as “ sturgeon” ?

              The only other group of people I see doing that

              Are the britnat reporters or union supporters

              Suspiciously strange

          • Capella says:

            Well said, Petra. There’s a definite whiff of misogyny about the constant whining that the “wee wumman” just isn’t up to it and the big man should take over and lead us into the battle. “Move over Nicola, thanks for getting us to 58% but it’s time the blokes took charge of the wagon.”
            Well you’re either with us or against us IMO. Soon everyone will have to choose which side they’re on. Westminster or Independence. That’s the only choice ahead of us.

            • grizebard says:

              Yes, there does seem to be at least a hint of that from some. Nobody comes straight out and says it, probably because it would immediately backfire, but it’s there. The motivation is probably complex, though: the “alphabet women” business may well have played a part – that seems to have hit a nerve with some – but the frustration we all feel to some extent with the degree of SG caution and apparent slowness of progress probably plays a gender-related part too. (I’m thinking of my reaction when I’m backseat driving with my sis!)

  139. Petra says:

    Here we, bl**dy well, go again! Broon’s to be in on the act as well 🙄.

    ‘Sir Keir Starmer to give major speech in Scotland: will he propose a constitutional convention?’

    ..”Sir Keir is expected to outline a course of action that could eventually lead to the creation of a federal United Kingdom, where the nations and the regions would share sovereignty and power with the national state.”..

    ”Fast forward to December 2020, and the South Yorkshire mayor Dan Jarvis organised a letter from 40 local leaders, urging the prime minister to take action to save “our precious United Kingdom”. Without fundamental changes, they concluded, “the current relationship between our central government and the constituent parts of the UK is incoherent, often unjust and ultimately unsustainable”.

    https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/sir-keir-starmer-to-give-major-speech-in-scotland-will-he-propose-a-constitutional-convention/

    …………………………………….

    There’s further ”comments” about Tim Farron outlined in this link but I’ve got no idea if they are true or not. I’ve searched but can’t find anything online to support them.

    ‘YES, BUT IS LEAVING THE UK A SIN?’

    ‘Headlining in the Herald today: A LEADING MP has called for Scotland to stick with the union and not abandon the north of England with Boris Johnson. Tim Farron made the plea after 17 polls in a row showed majority support for Scottish independence, with the SNP on track for a major victory at the Holyrood elections next year.”

    https://talkingupscotlandtwo.com/blog-feed/

    • grizebard says:

      Yup, you can just see it now, “please, please, kind generous open-hearted Scotland with all your resources, don’t leave poor old England in the lurch now that we’ve dug ourselves into this deep hole” then if the soft-hearted and gullible are fooled by this sentimental guff and agree, the day after, as before, the tune changes to “right, England is back in charge again, and never mind what you want, here’s what you have to do…”

    • grizebard says:

      … that could eventually lead …

      “eventually” is as weasel-worded as “normally”. After everything that has happened, you have to be terminally gullible to buy that fantastical Red Tory pig in a poke. Vow Mk.2. The English electorate and their Blue Tory MPs will never agree, ever. It’s play by their rules or go play somewhere else. We need to take the latter and safer way now. Stop being somebody else’s poodle.

      • Oh yes
        England will plead for Scotland to stay one day then threaten Scotland the next if we don’t just do what we are told

        Nothing has changed

        It’s what England did to Scotland hundreds of years ago and they’re still doing it

  140. Republicofscotland says:

    “‘Sir Keir Starmer to give major speech in Scotland: will he propose a constitutional convention?’”

    Petra.

    Its a sign of sheer desperation from the ennobled multimillionaire knight of the realm Starmer, he’s well aware that the polls indicate that Scots want to ditch this obscene union for good, and he feels that Labour are the saviours of it.

    Labour are as everyone knows the Red Tories, we should completely ignore this man’s intentions, and continue on with our quest for independence.

    • Legerwood says:

      And how is he going to justify crossing the border at this time. Is his journey in any way essential? Maybe he could just post the speech – 2nd class stamp of course.

    • Labour the same as the tories

      • Republicofscotland says:

        Legerwood, Bob and Terence, apologies for the late reply.

        I think we’re all tired of Red Tory (Labour) promises, Sir Keir Starmer an ennobled millionaire knight of the realm who isn’t even in government is the latest to push more powers for Scotland, if we’ll only continue to remain on our knees in this God awful union, and allow Westminster to drain our assets and use Scotland for whatever purposes (nuclear weapons and subs) it deems fit.

  141. Petra says:

    That’s exactly where we would be if we could get out of this damnable Union 🥺.

    ‘Ireland has second-highest quality of life in the world, according to UN report.’

    ..”The new Human Development Index from the UN places Ireland second-highest in the world for quality of life, which is based on health, education and income in each country. Ireland has moved up one place from the 2019 Index, going from third place to second, overtaking Switzerland. The Republic is now second only to Norway, which has been deemed the best country in the world for quality of life.”

    http://www.irishpost.com/news/ireland-has-second-highest-quality-of-life-in-the-world-according-to-un-report-200228?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=article&utm_medium=web

    ………………………………………….

    And this is what you get for being part of this damnable Union 🙄.

    ‘Northern Ireland leaders engage in coronavirus finger-pointing.’

    ..Irish government leaders taking part in Friday’s summit — held by video to avoid infection risks — stressed the need to help Northern Ireland get its runaway infection rate under control. Cases are currently four times higher north of the border, where restrictions have been imposed more slowly and fleetingly than in the Republic of Ireland.”

    http://www.politico.eu/article/northern-ireland-leaders-engage-in-coronavirus-blame-game/

  142. Petra says:

    Move to Scotland Sasha 👍 You’ll get a warm welcome here 😀.

    ”Tory MP’s wife Sasha Swire says she would fight for Scottish independence,”

    http://www.thenational.scot/news/18958189.tory-mps-wife-sasha-swire-says-fight-scottish-independence/

    ………………………………………

    Check out all of Ann’s latest links on the Indyref2 site.

    https://indyref2.space/forum/topic/links-sunday-20-december-2020/

  143. Petra says:

    Is Westminster breaching the 1801 Treaty or not? Thoughts on this anyone?

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/aip/Geo3/40/38/part/6

    • bringiton says:

      We Scots are not Subjects.
      No doubt the new Act of Union currently being cooked up by Westminster will contain references to that however.
      A great message for our campaign.
      Do you wish to be a subject of Greater England or a citizen of Europe?

    • JB says:

      No, because that Act does not implement a Treaty.

      The Union of Ireland and Great Britain was not a Treaty, merely domestic legislation whereby the Monarchy merged two of its realms (kingdom of Ireland, and Kingdom of Great Britain).

      So the usual rules of implied repeal apply, especially given that the EU Withdrawal Act is inherently a Constitutional Act.

  144. Arthur Thomson says:

    Well, things really are hotting up, lolz.

    Is there anyone left who doesn’t see that it is impossible to predict with any degree of confidence where the next crisis is going to come from?

    The times immediately ahead are potentially extremely dangerous in my view. I thank goodness that we have Nicola and her team (mainly of superbly able women) at the helm at these times.

    I consider their level of competence and the sheer volume of difficult work they undertake daily on our behalf – and compare it with the miserable, snarking, nit picking output of those no marks who think it clever to try to diminish them.

    I suppose it takes all sorts.

  145. Dr Jim says:

    Citizens of nowhere Theresa May said
    They want Scotland to show *solidarity* with England one minute so we can be a *subject* of England the next, are they a Monarchy pretending to be a democracy or the other way round because you can’t be both even though they’ve been selling this shit for hundreds of years and getting away with it
    We’re all subject to the laws we make but England wants us to be subjected to their artificial Monarchial dictatorship where they make all the laws to suit any given moment that’s suitable to them and Scotland can’t *reasonably* object and is outvoted every single time we do

    Keir Starmer by his own words admits that Scotland is not treated equally because if we were he wouldn’t have to promise to make it so some time in the future if or when the Labour Tories ever win and election in England that Scotland’s votes have not contributed to since 1955, so once again they’re saying that England will decide if or when or never if Scottish people are ever equal in status to citizen subjects of England

    They’ve got no case, no truth, no promises they can make that they can or will ever offer that they won’t in turn *reasonably* deny us later, because the *British* people voted and if people in Scotland don’t understand by now the word *British* only ever applies to Scotland when the English want to take something from us by telling us we’re included then when they have it we become nuisance Scots citizens of nowhere and that verminous race all over again till the next time England decides to take take take take take

  146. Tatu3 says:

    A few comments, like the one below, on fb these past couple of days from union supporters complaining that “Nicola” and the “SNP ” have £300+m of covid money that they are not spending on those that need it. Anyone know the truth?

    “If you are a small business that is required to close on 26th December the SNP Government will financially compensate you with SWEET FUCK ALL! ………
    Nicola Sturgeon has closed their businesses without a thought for the owners financial well being. All while Nicola is sitting on a £330m cash mountain intended for Covid Support she refuses to spend. ”
    Posted by “East Ayrshire Cooncil” on fb!

    • malkymcblain says:

      I would suggest that this sort of stuff be left where you found it on fb and not quoted here using the excuse of asking people if it’s true or not. Perhaps some genuine research on the veracity of the claim by yourself would be better.

      • Tatu3 says:

        Wow! So rude. It was a genuine question.

        • malkymcblain says:

          Apologies…I’m a bit pissed off about all this Sturgeon negative stuff on Indy blogs and I assumed this was another being posted in a way that made the poster seem innocent by posing it as a genuine question.

    • grizebard says:

      It’s just another desperate Labourite slander tactic. They positively hate the relative competence of the SG, and would prefer that we’re all badly served and people would suffer lots more just so their useless bunch of nobodies wouldn’t seem so irrelevant. It’s shocking really how awful they would prefer things to be, but that empty negativity is all they have left. People though are getting savvy, and are tuning them out. SLab are in a hole of their own making but just can’t stop digging.

      • Tatu3 says:

        Thank you

        • grizebard says:

          You’re very welcome.

          Questions of this ilk appear in the Covid briefings from time to time, and the FM’s response is typically (and reasonably) “why would I have any reason not to use all the available money…?” The implausible underlying premise seems to be that Nicola is a kind of Wicked Stepmother always trying to harm somebody or another merely as an exercise in spite, and it withers in the light of the transparent openness and honesty that she constantly displays.

          The absurdity of the tactic is compounded by the contrarian perspective simultaneously being attempted: Nicola the Fairy Godmother who should be personally curing Covid in between curing cancer and halting drug deaths instantly with a wave of her magic wand. It’s all so pathetically infantile, and it impresses nobody, not even the media presstitutes who shamelessly purvey it.

          • Tatu3 says:

            Thank you again. The fb comment comes via my very staunch unionist elderly cousin who lives in Ayrshire. I try and rebuke/show up any other comments/posts he shares, but this one stumped me as I could not find a definite answer. I know he is wrong, I just like to provide evidence as to how wrong he is.

            • grizebard says:

              Ah, those staunch (a telling word) elderly Unionists in Ayrshire, they’re a dying breed. Reminds me of what Einstein once said – in a scientific context, but in the domain of politics it’s arguably even more apposite – you don’t convince your diehard opponents, they just die off. Sad but true. Because the evident new reality continually garners fresh adherents while its contrary gains few, and withers.

              So good luck with your efforts, but some are always going to be unconvinced, alas. One might almost wish that such folk never “see the light”, because the bitter realisation by the last of the holdouts that they have been so mightily fooled might be personally crushing. (In fact, they probably realise it themselves, and the person each is trying hardest to keep onside against mounting evidence is him/herself.)

  147. Republicofscotland says:

    LBC news.

    The French have closed the border with the UK due to the new Covid variant, delivers in and out of the continent will be affected, LBC stating that there might be a shortage of fruit and veg in the coming days, and the Brexit tailbacks at Kent haven’t even taken hold yet.

  148. Petra says:

    FGS! Can this get any worse? Aye I hear you saying.

    ‘Covid: Chaos as France bans UK lorries and countries line up to ban British travellers.’

    ”COUNTRIES around the world have banned travellers from the UK with France banning British lorries coming into the country for 48 hours following the discovery of a more infectious mutant coronavirus strain. Amid chaos at the port of Dover – which is stopping millions of pounds of Scottish exports reaching their destination – Nicola Sturgeon will attend the UK Government’s Cobra civil contingencies committee later today. France last night shut its ports to UK freight and joined Ireland, Italy, the Netherlands, Belgium, Austria, Bulgaria, Germany, Finland, Denmark, Israel and El Salvador in banning all flights carrying passengers from the UK.”…

    http://www.thenational.scot/news/18959054.chaos-france-bans-uk-lorries-countries-line-ban-british-travellers/

    …………………………………..

    ‘Nicola Sturgeon calls for Brexit to be delayed as Covid-19 variant sparks chaos.’

    ”Nicola Sturgeon has called for Boris Johnson to extend the Brexit transition period, saying it was “imperative” after the discovery of a faster-spreading coronavirus mutation led to much of Europe closing the door on the UK. At an emergency meeting this morning, it’s likely that the European Council will ban all flights, ferries and trains from Britain.”

    http://www.thenational.scot/news/18958756.nicola-sturgeon-calls-brexit-delayed-covid-19-variant-sparks-freight-chaos/

    Now you would think that in light of what’s happening right now what Nicola Sturgeon is trying to do makes sense, but No the man who comes across as someone who is due to be dragged off in a straitjacket is whipping up hatred against her again, comparing her to the leader of an Independent country and so on 🙄. You couldnae make it up.

  149. Republicofscotland says:

    AUOB has cancelled it planned demo outside Holyrood today due to the Covid variant, AUOB were planning to have a silent demo to try and force Sturgeon’s to act on her fine words on independence to be matched with action.

  150. Petra says:

    ‘All UK should follow Scottish model in Covid variant fight, Devi Sridhar says.’

    http://www.thenational.scot/news/18958016.uk-follow-scottish-model-covid-variant-fight-devi-sridhar-says/

    …………………………………………..

    ‘George Kerevan: There’s a new Scottish uppityness about – and it’s bringing indy closer.’

    ..”Independence is not won by parliamentary manoeuvres. It is achieved when a whole people refuses to bow the knee to foreign control. Freedom begins with collective action, not petitions to the oppressor.

    Today is the winter equinox, the shortest day of the year. Tomorrow we start the journey to summer sunshine and independence. Be optimistic, Scotland. Now is the day. Now is the hour.”

    http://www.thenational.scot/politics/18958432.new-scottish-uppityness—bringing-indy-closer/

    • Legerwood says:

      Solstice not equinox.

    • By accident I accessed England’s BBC Breakfast TV this morning just before 07.00 hrs to get a quick heads up about the weather today.

      With not a little alarm I found myself confronted with the Lone Red Britter Ian Murray, puffy faced and hirsute, ‘live’ from his book shelf, ostensibly invited on to comment on Brexit, now that all the deadlines have passed ,without comment by Johnson and Co., and Murray asked to comment on Nicola Sturgeon urging for a Brexit extension because of the Covid crisis and Europe closing its borders to Kentland.

      Murray barked that Johnson should accept his ‘oven ready’ deal within the next 48 hours, revealing that he did not have a clue about Brexit, and the current state of play, and that even if The British Junta recalled its fishery patrol boats, Brexit will close the borders in 10 days time, and that there will still be 7000 lorries parked in Kent, Scottish langoustines will rot in trucks, and the EU 27 borders will be closed to Scottish citizens (the people whom he is supposed to represent) virus or no virus.

      The man is clearly a buffoon.

      On NS demanding a Brexit extension, the Walking Butcher’s Apron declared that when Starmer won in 2024, there would be a Constitutional Convention, and Federalism will triumph.

      He is an idiot.

      They are getting desperate.
      This paunchy little nobody gets on prime time English TV to peddle the Federalism nonsense ‘nationwide’.

      One Red Tory MP in 59, yet there he is, front and centre, speaking for Scotland.

      They must know now that they have scraped the bottom out of the Brit Cracker barrel, surely.

      Brown and Gove fronting the Better Together II Push?
      Lovin’ it.

      • grizebard says:

        A tag team of Federal Broon and Snake Oil Gove – I’m lovin’ it too Jack!

        The Labourite “eventually federal” Vow Mk. II is an insidious poison arrow, but when we look at how much has not merely stagnated from promises broken, but actually gone into abrupt reverse in just a very short time, not even the BBC in propaganda mode can hide the unpleasant truth: we’re not safe in the damned Union, and never will be.

        I’m just longing to see a campaign going where the shameful record of these roasters can be cast back in their lying faces like political custard pies.

  151. Petra says:

    ‘NI 100: Who were the major players in 1920?’

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-55311419

    ……………………………………..

    ‘NI 100: The new state emerges from a tumultuous decade.’

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-55265799

  152. Republicofscotland says:

    I’m absolutely flabbergasted that Sturgeon is still continuing to plead with Johnson to call for an extension on the EU deal if there is a deal that is. I’d have thought that by now she would’ve realised, like the rest of us do, that Johnson doesn’t care what she thinks nor what anyone in Scotland thinks about the Brexit deal.

    Now we have the Mayor of London agreeing with Sturgeon on the matter, the same mayor who called those who support independence racists. Sturgeon needs to focus on the virus at the moment, but she really needs to grip the bull by the horns soon, and call an indyref next year by doubling up the Scottish elections as plebiscite for independence.

    • grizebard says:

      Oh, GTF. Maybe armchair warriors like you ought just for once to go and talk to all those people like the West Coast fishermen whose livelihoods are directly threatened by a no-deal Brexit. The FM has to act on behalf of everyone in Scotland, not just pander to a minority of Nirvana fantasists with no popular support.

    • weegingerdug says:

      Oh for gods sake I get it that you think Sturgeon is Satan, but this criticism of her from you veers over into parody.

      Get a fucking grip. If she had said nothing about Johnson’s refusal to ask for an extension of the EU transition period you’d be criticising her for rolling over and doing nothing to defend Scotland.

      Piss off back to Wings with this sort of inanity, because frankly I’ve had enough of it.

      • Republicofscotland says:

        weegingerdug.

        Surely it must be obvious to you as it is to others that we’re well past the point of asking Johnson for an extension, in the last four years Scotland hasn’t had a say on which direction Brexit was taking, asking for an extension now seems to me at least as playing to the gallery don’t you think?

        Infact Johnson appears to ignoring Scotland in general, we have minister not showing up for Q&A sessions at Holyrood, and if memory serves, Mike Russell said recently that the Scottish government hadn’t received any consultation on Brexit in any form since the 19th of JUly 2019.

        I don’t think Sturgeon is Satan but I do think she’s missed a glorious opportunity to Brexit to bring independence to Scotland.

    • yesindyref2 says:

      This is hardly a plea. more like a command:

      It’s now imperative that PM seeks an agreement to extend the Brexit transition period. The new Covid strain – & the various implications of it – means we face a profoundly serious situation, & it demands our 100% attention. It would be unconscionable to compound it with Brexit.

      And the Herald reporting this:

      “OMG , this is a disaster, Vivier trucks loaded with hundreds of thousands of pounds heading to Dover right now !!! What the hell are we meant to do,” Loch Fyne tweeted.

      “There will be Vivier trucks from all over Scotland heading in that direction, millions of pounds worth of seafood at the time of the most important market of the year the last one before Xmas.

      “Jesus if BREXIT wasn’t going to put us out of business by Tuesday this week we will be.

      “Even if we get through 48 hours later we will miss the Xmas deadline, this is unbelievable.”

      And Starmer the shadow colonial tiffin governor saying “Boris Johnson should not give you sweaties a referendum” it’s all food for Indy support – and pressure.

  153. skintybroko says:

    Even the NY Times can see how corrupt the UK government is

  154. Republicofscotland says:

    “West Coast fishermen whose livelihoods are directly threatened by a no-deal Brexit.”

    Grizebard.

    I might be wrong, but I’m under the impression that the majority of Scottish fishermen voted for Brexit, of course now its beginning to dawn on those folk that they might not have any EU market to sell their catch to, or at the very least it will be held up by and reems of red tape, possibly spoiling their produce that they’re now concerned, a bit late I might add.

    On Sturgeon paying lip service isn’t acting on everyone’s behalf.

    • weegingerdug says:

      West coast fishermen mostly catch shellfish. They overwhelmingly live in communities which opposed Brexit.

      I repeat – you are criticising the first minister for doing something which you’d have criticised her for not doing. So really all you want to do is to carp, complain, and undermine,

      take it elsewhere I have run out of patience, and if you think that you are being censored, frankly I don’t give a toss.

      • Republicofscotland says:

        weegingerdug.

        I did state the majority of fishermen and not all of them, and I’m criticising the FM for going down a route that we all know fine well is a dead end. I have on occasion given praise to the Scottish government on this very blog when they get it right.

    • Hamish100 says:

      RoS you are wrong. Different type of fishing. Different type of catch.
      You also know to sell any catch requires a market to sell.

      You know that of course.

  155. jfngw says:

    I see necromancer Keir Starmer (knight of the people) is to unleash the Vowfinder General upon the Scots. He will root out Scottishness and Independists and put them to the sword for Britain. If you think a couple of these words are just made up you are probably correct.

  156. Dr Jim says:

    Sir Keir Starmer this morning was verging on insanity as his position on Scotland worsened every time a journalist asked him a question, his replies now are (paraphrasing) I don’t care what Scottish people voted for or against because we British people (translation: English people) voted for something else and we’re too busy right now to be bothered with Scotland so shut up the now and we’ll talk in another 20 years if or when I ever become a leader of something in England and then I’ll break whatever promises I’m not making right now

    This man’s a lawyer, in fact he was a very senior lawyer and this is the best he can come up with?

    Kinda demonstrates very clearly what England’s intended best would be for Scotland if we’re forced to hang around in his Union any longer, deary deary me

    • jfngw says:

      In 2014 they sent out Brown to promise federalism, they were only joking obviously. Next time Keir Starmer is sending him out with the promise of vassalage, they think they can deliver on this one!

      Of course his speech wasn’t really aimed at Scots but his own countrymen, he was telling them he will tame the Scots and put them back were they belong. He as a knight of the realm will defend the kingdom, he will be the modern day hammer of the Scots.

      • grizebard says:

        Well, that’s the dilemma that all Labour leaders face these days, if they give any succour to Scotland, the English tabloids and the Tories will accuse them of being in the pocket of those vile seps. Like it or not, there is no way out of the dilemma except to pander to dominant English (nationalist) sentiment while trying to placate us with cheap promises of sunshine & flowers sometime, maybe, “eventually”.

        Basically though they have written us off as worth nothing to them, the consequence being that people in Scotland are increasingly willing to reciprocate. The only reason that Labour hasn’t sunk completely without trace here yet is because of all their lingering placemen in the “Scottish” media. And even that life support is running on an near-empty tank.

    • yesindyref2 says:

      Starmer said: “And just as in 1997, we will make a devolution a reality under the next Labour government. This will of course take time,but I expect the Scottish section, working with Scottish Labour and our leader, Richard Leonard, to be completed as soon as possible”.

      In other words, do as you’re tellt Lynyrd Rykyrd “Sweaties Home Rule Alba”, or you’re fired.

      • Starmer demonstrates the unswerving superiority of the English Ruling Class. We know what’s best for you, Scottish plebs.

        He actually uses the verb, ‘grant’, to declare as our colonial masters, that an English PM should not permit the militarily occupied colony of Scotland to exercise its democratic and human right to determine its own future at the ballot box.
        That Richard Leonard will be at the helm in 2024, that by then, 74 year old multi millionaire Gordon Brown, friend of the Failed Banks and Filthy rich, would somehow convene and chair a UK Constitutional Convention in, say five or six years time, and we Scots just sit on our hands and be raped of our resources, and plunged deeper into colonial penury following another 5 years of Blue Tory fascism, is laughable.
        Of course the dead Tree Scrolls and the obliging TV channels give this garbage fuklk coerage.
        WE go in 2021.

        England is dying, and sinking beneath the waves, as I write.
        Bloody fools from Thatcher onwards.

        I am fighting mad now.

        Murray at 06.54hrs on BBC English Fool Breakfast this morning was an embarrassing joke.
        They really don’t get Scotland, do they?
        Come on Comrade McKenna; Give us your take on this born again Left wing ‘surge’?

        • Check out the typos, my ‘rage-ometer’.

          What an arrogant bunch of sludge English politicians are.

          • diabloandco says:

            I like that descriptive sentence and may steal it as it is superior to the one which I use which is full of Anglo Saxon and some.

            I never used to swear – I blame Westminster for my lapse into crudity and abandoning my usage of elaborate English.

            Merry Christmas to one and all , may you stay well and sane !

        • jfngw says:

          Starmer has no interest in the people of Scotland but he is interested in what we live on, it will finance his ambitions for his own country. The unionists in Scotland are just mere carpetbaggers, happy they can pick at the scraps from the table.

          ‘Land is the only thing in the world that amounts to anything, for ’tis the only thing in this world that lasts.’

          If you think I’m being anti-English (I actually have more English ancestry than Scots) then what exactly does this indicate:

          Colin Mackay STV news: “Shouldn’t the decision whether or not Scotland should be independent be in the hands of the Scottish people?”

          Keir Starmer Labour leader: “No”

          • grizebard says:

            They surely haven’t a clue how that sounds to Scottish ears. Before it was “we’re all pals together really, solidarity with the people of Liverpool, blah-de-blah”. Which to many was plausible enough, at least at the time. Now the velvet gloves are slipping and the iron fist is showing, and we can see for ourselves that we’re not pals together at all, these arrogant sods believe they own us. (Or more accurately, I suppose, they believe they own the land, and we the natives are merely an inconvenience and in the way.)

            A neo-colonialist Labour Party, whouda thunk it? How they can possibly believe that such an attitude is democratically sustainable is beyond me. If their Plan A is merely to deny us our rightful due and promise wonders at some unspecified time in the never-never, we should be demanding of them what their Plan B is…

      • Petra says:

        Trying to pull the wool over the Scots eyes as per usual!

        ”Starmer said: “And just as in 1997, we will make a devolution a reality under the next Labour government.”

        …………………………………………

        ‘Scottish Independence and Scotland’s Future – Scotland in the World – The Scotland-UN Committee – The Story in Brief.’

        ..”There is therefore no truth whatsoever in the assertion that the devolution of political power to Scotland, and the restoration of the Scottish Parliament and Government, was an initiative by the Labour Party. The full story of Labour’s attempts to retain power in Scotland by any means whatsoever has still to be told, and indeed these tactics (including the suppression of the real facts of devolution) were successful to the extent that they enabled the party to cling to office for a further eight years. Truth may be a philosophical concept, but the hard fact is that the restoration of democratic government in Scotland was forced on London by the international authorities as a foreign policy commitment that had to be implemented under the implied threat of international sanctions.”..

        http://www.electricscotland.com/independence/uncommittee.htm

        • Jim says:

          Wow! What a terrific piece. Every day’s a school day right enough.
          I don’t know where you find all these links Petra but my god you do sterling work in ensuring the truth gets out there.
          It makes you wonder if this is the real reason behind Brexit. That they can hold on to Scotland’s wealth and enact their ‘Final Solution’ .

          Keep up the good work Petra, your links are invaluable.

  157. Dr Jim says:

    The FM made a joke today at her briefing when asked what would she give Boris Johnson as a Christmas gift, without a second’s hesitation she replied “A hairbrush” then because of the amount of animosity the press loves to generate over these kinds of things she is forced to clarify that her joke was humour just humour and she in fact had sent him a Christmas card

    That exchange right there should tell everyone all they need to know about the level of pressure the FM is under second by second to guard her words so carefully and mollify everybody from being so ridiculously stupid and inventing even more animosity where none was intended

    Quite often a joke is just a joke

  158. Alex Clark says:

    Johnson to hold another press conference from Downing Street at 17:00

    “The risk of “significant disruption” at Channel ports in Kent has sparked concerns about the UK food supply and the rollout of the Covid vaccine although ministers have moved to dispel these.

    Johnson will now hold a Monday evening press conference in Downing Street in a further attempt to reassure the nation.”

    https://archive.vn/KPgyP

    Panic buying across the UK expected to commence about 10 minutes after Johnson gives his reassurance that it’s all going to be fine, there is no need to panic, honest!

  159. Petra says:

    O/T

    Take a look 👀 😀.

    ‘For the first time in 800 years, you can watch a “great conjunction” of Jupiter and Saturn.’

    ..”Jupiter and Saturn are due to converge in their orbits on Monday, appearing as a double planet in the night sky — the first such occurrence in almost 800 years (4 March 1226 ).”..

    http://www.vox.com/2020/12/19/22190612/jupiter-saturn-align-great-conjunction-double-planet-800-years

  160. Petra says:

    ‘Christmas Star 2020: Jupiter, Saturn to meet in rare “great conjunction.”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93rvebnl-_U

    • ArtyHetty says:

      Check out Scott Manley on YouTube and twitter, a Scottish astronomer living in San Francisco, always has some great vids and info. ‘I’m Scott Manley, fly safe!’. Always love that at the end of his vids, he has a great voice.

      https://www.youtube.com/user/szyzyg

      As for Tory Starmer, Scotland will not listen this time to England HQ’d Labour, or Tories for that matter, undermining devolution and denying the people of Scotland their right to decide their own future. How dare he swan up to Scotland and dictate, how bloody dare he. He could hardly be less socialist, such a lying trougher if ever there was. Labour are such a con, CONLabour, that is what we should call them. Biggest scammers of the century.
      I can see why Jack is raging! Scotland get the hell away from the dangerous cabal in Westminster pronto.

      Great comments and analysis re the cheek of the BritNats bullying Scotland. Scottish wit is just brilliant.

      • Petra says:

        He’s great ArtyHetty at explaining things in a simplistic way. Too bad however that so many talented Scots leave our shores behind 😒. I’m hoping that will change following us getting our independence.

  161. Alex Clark says:

    A Prof. Dingwall from NERVTAG on BBC News seems to be demolishing the idea that the new strain of the virus is greatly more infectious than earlier versions. He describes their own report into the new strain as “a fairly bland document”.

    Johnson over egging it again for political reasons with unforeseen circumstances the result? Like the closure of borders with most of the EU and much of the rest of the world. I guess we will find out soon enough, liars always get found out in the end.

    • Bob Lamont says:

      Exactly, but in this case their “Look, a Squirrel” game has the attention of Europe and the rest of the world.
      Oops…

  162. Petra says:

    Good!!

    ‘Police chief warns English cars will be stopped to enforce travel ban.’

    http://www.thenational.scot/news/18959971.police-chief-warns-english-cars-will-stopped-enforce-travel-ban/

    ………………………………………..

    ‘Gordon Brown: SNP slam former Labour PM over Scottish Child Payment claims.’

    ”The SNP have hit out at Gordon Brown, the Labour party’s headline appointment to its Constitutional Commission, after he said he doesn’t “see why” Scotland is administering its own benefits when it could be done by Westminster.”..

    http://www.thenational.scot/news/18960293.gordon-brown-snp-slam-former-labour-pm-scottish-child-payment-claims/

    • grizebard says:

      Ach, Federal Fantasist Broon may have the unquestioning support of Glenn Campbell BBC, but he’s surely set himself on the road to trashing what’s left of his tattered reputation. Somebody should do a CNN on him, make a video that places him uttering his fatuous assurances in 2014 back-to-back with the fatuous promises he’s making now.

      Crash and burn, Gordy. You’ll be taking your precious party down into the crypt with you when you finally go.

      • For the absence of any doubt, Brown scrapped the 10% rate of tax so that he could reduce B.R. Tax from 22% to 20% in 2007 in one of his many Red Tory cons to woo middle England Tories ‘Til They Die voters.
        Lord Darling of Flipper introduced the tax as Chancellor plunging many of the UK poorest into New Labour inspired poverty.
        He’s the man who saddled us with PFI Schools Hospitals and Prisons, 25 year contracts with off shore tax haven venture capitalists, who are still coining it in for schools that would have cost a fraction to finance and build publicly, all those years ago, when Brown was selling off Gold at a loss, and taxing pensions.
        The man is and has been a disgrace to humanity, never mind Scotland.
        Lest we forget, he was the man who bankrolled the invasion and genocide of Iraq.
        Son of the Manse, my arse.

        We ask no English man or woman for permission for anything. Brown is an ‘Englishman’, like Oliver, a North Briton. They deny Scotland’s very existence as an independent nation.

        Racist xenophobe, he demanded ‘British jobs for British workers’ remember.
        If Brown is a socialist, King Herod is a childminder.

        Even Peter Mandelson thought him to be as mad as a hatter, allegedly, reportedly.

        That Starmer believes that Dick, Leonard will still be round in 4 years time says it all.
        The punctuation after ‘Dick’ is intentional.

        • ArtyHetty says:

          Aye, Labour, biggest scammers of the century. Taking the absolute p**s out of Scotland. Can’t even imagine what state Scotland would be in now if they had their mucky paws on the tiller, hardly bears thinking about.
          Yes indeed, Tory Starmer was very high up in police complaints commission, his record there is very telling.

      • Petra says:

        A wee reminder 🙄.

        ‘Gordon Brown interview: Scots being offered ‘home rule within UK’ | Channel 4 News.’

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwfvL4jQVDA

        • grizebard says:

          Thanks for that wee reminder, Petra. That garrulous jaw-dropping arsehole – we got “change” all right, only it wasn’t anything like he promised – now it’s the very reverse. Strutting his vainglorious stuff in his exclusionary little media bubble in front of a bunch of Tories including the now soon-to-be Baroness Boughtup. All of his fancy rhetoric long since turned to dust.

          Cathy Newman should haul the lying b’stard back for an interview and confront him with the reality of what we now want, in part thanks (perversely) to him.

          IRREVERSIBLE SEPARATION – no more being interfered-with by a bunch of hopeless right-wing posh twats – hell yes!

        • grizebard says:

          Thanks, Petra. After watching it, I posted an earlier more-extensive reply, but I fear I went “the full Collatin” and it’s gone into the dunny, possibly never to return.

          (If only the same could be said of lyin’ b’stard Broon.)

  163. jfngw says:

    Shapps & Johnson on the same briefing, that going to confuse those trying to spot the liar.

    Johnson’s best ‘one solitary driver is no risk’. He’s giving the impression the issue is someone from the EU bringing in the virus. What they are worried about is the driver contacting possibly hundreds of people as he drives around the UK then takes the virus back. And there are hundreds of drivers doing this. It’s the same story they are trying to sell about Brexit, the EU are just being unreasonable.

    • Dr Jim says:

      Maybe the French are worried about lorry loads of English people trying to escape from England into the EU

      • Doubtless with pockets stuffed full of jars of Marmite and penguin biscuits, with which to barter with the indigenous population.
        The West European Trading Company?

        • Bob Lamont says:

          Don’t forget ham and cheese sandwiches…

          • Bob, ‘ham and cheese sandwiches’; that’ll be Croque Monsieur, wrapped in cellophane and stamped with the rouge blanc et bleu du Drapeau Francais, mon brave.

            I make a mean Croque Monsieur, with home made bread

            There is also Le Croque ‘Madame’ which is like the ‘monsieur’, but with a fried egg on top; although in these trying PC times where one misspoken word can see the utterer or writer clapped in irons, if a ‘Monsieur’ without a fried egg chooses to self identify as a ‘madame’ sans oeuf, or a ‘madame’ wishes to be identified as a ‘monsieur’, avec oeuf or with the oeuf surgically removed, it is not for this humble scribe ,who feels that he/she/it is walking on coquilles d’oeufs the longer he/she/it clacks this bit of whimsy…
            A bientot, mes braves.

            From Albert Camus ‘La Peste:-

            ““What on earth prompted you to take a hand in this?”
            “I don’t know. My… my code of morals, perhaps.”
            “Your code of morals. What code, if I may ask?”
            “Comprehension.” ”

            We know what’s going on. We understand why very wealthy Brit Jocks attack their own country like this.
            Because their English Masters have showered them with riches beyond their talent, merely to belittle Scotland, to lie about its wealth, and threaten bully and crush the population into colonial subservience.

            Covid is getting the blame for Brexit. When la peste dampens down, the Jocks will be next in the blame game.

            My ‘code of morals’ is understanding.

            They are among us intent on destroying Scotland.
            For money.

      • jfngw says:

        It’s strange, they complain about EU citizens coming into the UK, now they are complaining they are not, they just can’t be pleased.

        And for those talking of bartering, can you barter arrogance, does it have a face value?

  164. Dr Jim says:

    When Independence is all done and dusted we should award Theresa May a Scottish honour for her *Now is not the time speech* things were dodgy then but her advice on timing fits perfectly now

    It’d be a nice gesture when we win to publicly thank that wummin, maybe give her the keys to a Scottish wheat field to run through along wae a jar of Scottish jam

    We’ll have to think of a present for Sir Keir Longshanks as well, maybe a wee foty of him releasing Jimmy Saville to *earn* his knighthood

  165. jfngw says:

    George Galloway livid, Lembit had said they were meeting up with a couple of cheeky girls

    • Dr Jim says:

      Couldn’t they remember their names?

      • ArtyHetty says:

        Too past it for sure. Galloway, a loose cannon, back forever in Scotland, gross.
        Why do these BritNats think anyone in a million years is bothered where they are on planet Earth, or whether they go to planet zog in fact it would be fantastic if they did, there are roadsigns, not in Gaelic, to it somewhere I’m sure.

  166. Arthur Thomson says:

    Has Labour regressed back to the 1950’s to find their new “leader”? Every time Starmer makes a speech I half expect him to take out his pipe! And his backing group all look to me like they should be wearing twinsets or short sleeved pullovers. I sense they are looking to find their roots, that they are trying to find that time when they were actually relevant. 70’s man Corbyn was obviously too modern for today’s world.

    Anyway we’ve been told by Sir Keir. It’s back in the box for us. You can’t argue with a Sir.

    The more so when he has the support of a twat in a hat. I just love that picture above.

    Aren’t Slabber simultaneously the most ridiculous and the most despicable protection racket ever? Champagne ducking socialists – and they don’t even bother to hide their disdain for democracy and basic human decency.

    I really don’t like them.

  167. Arthur Thomson says:

    So that Sturgeon woman has appointed two more women to her government.

    What exactly has she got against all male government?

    This must be proof of something. Her motives are always open to question.

  168. Dr Jim says:

    This morning sees the Westminster government implementing its *Dennis Norden* policy of *It’ll be alright on the night* in respect of the whole of the UKs lorry transport system to and from the EU
    and in the greatest traditions of the UK pantomime season of *who’s that behind you* Oops it’s a thousand lorries queuing up to deliver and return to all parts of everywhere with fresh everything turning to not fresh and completely ruined everything including lively hoods and businesses we see the Sky news and BBC news filling the airwaves with England’s Tory politicians desperately trying to look like they’ve read the script for the rest of this pantomime, so much so they cross their collective fingers hoping for Aladdin and a magic carpet to fly them over the ocean but instead have lumbered themselves with the Jack and the Beanstalk script, but their Jack is Boris Johnson and he didn’t even sell the magic beans, he gave them away for a bet, but not to worry the English show must go on because they’re *British* and they’ll do the show right here

    Any minute now some Tory has got to mention the war and how England stood alone and defeated everybody and they have yet another contingency plan in the form of Captain Mainwaring and the rest of the cast of Dads Army who’ll direct traffic up and down motorway diversions going nowhere, but at least it’ll give the impression the traffic is moving and we’ll all be satisfied that Clown Minister Jack has reclaimed control of his magic beans

    The French don’t have Panto season, they have *we can be awkward* season, and everybody in the British Isles knew that except apparently for PM Beanstalk man, Brexit hasn’t even begun yet and this guy has left us with no cow to sell and his magic beans can’t grow cucumbers or tomatoes or well anything really

    Time to bring on Twanky Gove for a collective booing from us all

    Get your toilet rolls before you leave the theatre but don’t panic buy there’s enough to last for a whole day and there are plenty of potatoes

    • Priti Patel on Fool English Brexit this morning..’interviewed’ (aye richt) by a bearded guy on the sofa..all about the Kent lorries and Vietnam deaths trial.

      Nothing about Brexit.

      BBC clearly under strict instruction not to mention that in 9 days time, the lorry queue at Dover will be exacerbated by No Deal Brexit.

      Priti Patel with that constant superior grin, this awful person whose habit of dropping the ‘g’ in her present participles, making her sound even more like a ‘our John’s got a new motah’ dodgy Hackney used car salesperson, was given a 15 minute free ride, mouthing and repeating the ‘line to take’ script issued from No 10’s SPADS..

      This is the woman who heralded the end of Freedom of Movement…and the lad on the sofa was not allowed to question her on Brexit?

      The new improved BBC North Korea…they interviewed a wee 100 year old woman who got a wee Xmas pudding apparently prepared by the Battenbergs. Lizzie, Charlie, Wullie and his boy..can’t remember the sprog’s name…

      England is hiding under the duvet now, hoping that it will all just go away.

      I’m not comfortable about the weather lass talking about a white Christmas these days.

      • Dr Jim says:

        They interviewed Professor Linda Bauld the health expert from Scotland and asked her what folk should do to get them through the current crisis and she said, “Stop watching the overload of news”

        The interviewers dashed to save themselves from that comment by telling us No no no the Telly’s great and there’s a new Wurzel Gummidge show coming so we’ll all feel much better about everything now, so wow thank God eh

        • jfngw says:

          I watch Linda Bauld’s often deflect a loaded question trying to have her criticise the Scotgov, it’s the usual attempt to generate a ‘expert criticises SNP response…’ headline. She is too clever for them, I haven’t seen her caught out yet, unlike Jason Leitch who often just walks into their traps.

  169. Petra says:

    Probably the plan from day one!

    ”Farage: ‘If Brexit is a disaster, I will live abroad.” https://en-gb.facebook.com/Channel4News/videos/farage-if-brexit-is-a-disaster-i-will-live-abroad/10154693792241939/

    ………………………………………………

    ‘Keir Starmer just wiped Scottish Labour off the map.’

    ..”I watched Braveheart for the first time ever on Sunday 20 December. Historically laughable, dubious in its stereotyping with equally bizarre accents to boot, it fails to stand up to scrutiny over why it won so many awards nearly 25 years ago. But for me, it contextualised the current Scottish independence debate quite well. As King Edward Longshanks said in the film:

    ”The trouble with Scotland is that it’s full of Scots.”

    The same English mindset that was shown in Braveheart still somewhat exists today. That is, many English politicians have an almost inherited, colonial (and in some cases possibly subconscious) mindset that they are born to rule over Scotland and can do as they please. The idea that Scottish people are somehow lesser humans may not be acutely present – but in the darkest depths of the English establishment class’s DNA, it’s there. Many Scottish people feel the English consider them inferior and something that needs controlling and ruling – and pillaging and exploiting, too. They’d be right. No amount of sugar-coated, polished spin from Starmer about a new and shiny form of devolution will change this. And the sooner Scotland can evacuate itself from Westminster, the better for them.”

    http://www.thecanary.co/opinion/2020/12/21/keir-starmer-just-wiped-scottish-labour-off-the-map/

    • Dr Jim says:

      It really annoys me when everybody criticises Braveheart for it’s historical content, it was a movie, a film, an entertainment to convey a story based on history, it wasn’t a documentary and Mel Gibson never claimed it to be so I wish folk, even some of us Independence folk would stop cringing about it and maybe think for a second why British Nationalists hate it so much and how insulting to us and stupid it is of them to believe we Scots would make our life choices based on a movie, after all how many English *we won the war* films have there been that are absolute tosh from beginning to end and we didn’t hear Scots moaning our heads of at the brobdingnagian inaccuracies of those movies, nor did we believe that John Wayne killed all the Indians or won all the American wars single handed

      The British Nationalists despise Braveheart because despite the the same inaccuracies that appear in every movie pertaining to history the feeling and emotion of that historical time was pointedly conveyed, and that was of oppression by the English, were we not murdered, were we not abused, were we not denied our culture, were we not driven from our homes and many more abuses of Scots too numerous to mention, we bloody well were and that my Scottish brothers and sisters is and was 100% damn accurate

      Why do the English and Americans enjoy *Brig o Doon* so much, why don’t they criticise that eh, because just like films they made of Irish life those films cartoonised Scots and Irish to be mocked and laughed at for their amusement in the same way they portrayed all foreigners as people to mistrust, or cast white actors in black make up, or white actors painted yellow with made up slant eyes to convey Chinese or Asian people usually with buck teeth and glasses

      Todays Brexit is yet another incarnation and demonstration of insular exceptionalism and more a reflection of the character of English Nationalism that has almost nothing to do with modern Scotland, we are Internationalists in Scotland, we’ve successfully travelled and integrated ourselves with every country around the world without ever attempting to conquer anybody and everywhere we go no one ever says they dislike the Scots

      There’s a damn good reason for that and it’s lack of arrogance, as Scotland is destined to grow England continues to decline smaller and smaller, *Nae body like us we don’t care* is hardly an anthem to be proud of

      Braveheart was a Hollywood movie but in essence it was no less us

      • Well said Dr Jim , braveheart is a good film the points you make about why the britnats don’t like it are spot on

        • Arthur Thomson says:

          I first saw Brave Heart when I was on holiday, at a cinema in Fort William. At the end of the film the whole audience stood up and clapped! We all thought it made sense.

          I absolutely love the fact that the Brits hate the film. The more they hate it the more I love it. They HATE it because they are rightly presented as the baddies. They don’t like that. They are used to defining rather than being defined. They get to write history their way – except that now they don’t. Their victims are increasingly speaking out and exposing the truth – that they have been a blight on the world, a pernicious, violent tribe led by a series of celebrated psychopaths.

          How long before the French are employing wave machines to stop little boats of Brits trying to get into Europe undetected? Lolz.

  170. Petra says:

    ‘Why Labour leader Keir Starmer’s devolution speech was abysmally bad.’

    ..”He finished the speech by compounding all his previous errors with the only definitive statement in the whole thing: that he would oppose a referendum on Scottish independence. Not just oppose independence but a referendum on the question. That is, after promising to tune in to Scotland’s national conversation, to immediately tell the majority of the country’s population that their opinion just doesn’t matter. So much for making a start of winning them back. So much, indeed, for “listening to the British people”.

    https://nation.cymru/opinion/why-labour-leader-keir-starmers-devolution-speech-was-abysmally-bad/

    ………………………………

    Let’s not forget, folks 🙄.

    Colin Dunn:- ”The strategy of Labour’s ‘new’ devolution commission, as always, will be “What is the absolute minimum devolution we can get away with offering Scotland?” https://twitter.com/Zarkwan/status/1340997940219944960?s=20

  171. Petra says:

    46 minutes of guff from SIR Keir Starmer.

    Keir Starmer:- ”LIVE: A socially just Scotland in a modern United Kingdom.” https://mobile.twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1340977141207486465

    ………………………….

    🙄🙄🙄

    Richard Leonard:- ”Delighted that @Keir_Starmer has announced Gordon Brown will head up our constitutional convention. Labour introduced devolution and Labour will defend It.” https://mobile.twitter.com/LabourRichard/status/1340991514068066304

    • Petra says:

      Richard Leonard in dire need of being educated or outed for telling porkies … AGAIN.

      ‘Scottish Independence and Scotland’s Future – Scotland in the World – The Scotland-UN Committee – The Story in Brief.’

      ..”There is therefore no truth whatsoever in the assertion that the devolution of political power to Scotland, and the restoration of the Scottish Parliament and Government, was an initiative by the Labour Party. The full story of Labour’s attempts to retain power in Scotland by any means whatsoever has still to be told, and indeed these tactics (including the suppression of the real facts of devolution) were successful to the extent that they enabled the party to cling to office for a further eight years. Truth may be a philosophical concept, but the hard fact is that the restoration of democratic government in Scotland was forced on London by the international authorities as a foreign policy commitment that had to be implemented under the implied threat of international sanctions.”..

      http://www.electricscotland.com/independence/uncommittee.htm

      • Dr Jim says:

        We’re not supposed to speak ill of the dead but I knew Donald Dewar and he was not a hero or Scottish patriot, he was an employee of the English Labour party and Scotland is now educated to who those people were and are and Sir Keir Longshanks Starmer is confirming that daily

        In their overwhelming panic to retain control and ownership of Scotland their very own big mouths are betraying them

  172. Grassroots Oban is hosting a two-part event on Annual Ground, Roof and Floor rent with Graeme McCormick, who will be joined by Kate Forbes (SNP Finance Minister) for the second meeting. The first part is tonight at 7pm.

    Check the website for details and to register.

    https://grassrootsoban.scot/2020/12/21/local-tax-reform-for-an-independent-scotland/

  173. Petra says:

    That’s it. Let’s stand together until we can get out of this union 😀.

    Seafood Scotland:- ”Calling all #seafood companies ‼️ A Scottish firm with significant cold storage facilities has offered to open up during the ongoing border crisis. If any businesses would benefit from these in the coming days, they are making this capacity available free of charge.” https://mobile.twitter.com/SeafoodScotland/status/1341034894588334083

    ……………………………………………

    Oh crikey. Too bad Broon didnae think of doing ”Britain Better’, instead of fronting ”Better Together”, when Bliar was in power (1997-2007) followed by himself (2007-2010), eh?

    ‘We are seeing rising dissent in Wales’ says Gordon Brown.’

    ..”In the Sunday Times, Mr Brown said: “We can ‘do Britain’ better than this. The pandemic means that this is no longer just a Scottish issue: we are seeing rising dissent in Wales and a new northern revolt in England. We must now see Whitehall and Westminster pay heed.”..

    https://nation.cymru/news/we-are-seeing-rising-dissent-in-wales-says-gordon-brown/

  174. Petra says:

    If you want to know what’s really going on, check out Professor John Robertson’s site.

    https://talkingupscotlandtwo.com/blog-feed/

    AND Ann’s latest links on the Indyref2 site.

    https://indyref2.space/forum/topic/links-tuesday-22-december-2020/

  175. Petra says:

    And then check out The National. The only newspaper that supports independence.

    ‘Wee Ginger Dug: British rule began in triumphalism, but it won’t end that way.’

    ..”British rule in Scotland began in triumphalism, but it will end with a sectarian bigot on social media trying to make people feel sorry for them.”

    http://www.thenational.scot/news/18961022.wee-ginger-dug-british-rule-began-triumphalism-wont-end-way/

    ……………………………………………

    It’s just one big laugh as long as you’re a millionaire / billionaire.

    ‘Boris Johnson sparks anger by laughing about No-Deal Brexit at Covid conference.’

    http://www.thenational.scot/news/18961525.boris-johnson-sparks-anger-laughing-no-deal-brexit-covid-conference/

  176. Petra says:

    Like this lot 🙄.

    ‘William and Kate breach Rule of Six Covid restrictions at Sandringham event.’

    http://www.thenational.scot/news/18961878.william-kate-breach-rule-six-covid-restrictions-sandringham-event/

    ………………………………

    http://www.thenational.scot/news/

    • Legerwood says:

      It’s Ok – apparently it was inadvertent- aye right.

      Media pretty quiet about the Marquis of Bute and his fellow travellers (family, friends?) being charged with breaking the travel restrictions.

      On the subject of travel bans. The map of the world once more painted red. Not so much Empire though as Empire Strikes Back!!

      • Petra says:

        SEVEN of them, no doubt, spreading the virus around.

        ‘Marquess and socialite daughter charged after travelling from London to Bute.’

        ”London is in the new English Tier 4, indicating a high prevalence of the virus. Bute is in the relatively low Scottish level 2.”..

        ..” A Police Scotland spokesperson said: “On Monday December 21 2020, we received a report of a group of people travelling to the Isle of Bute in contravention of alleged breaches under the coronavirus legislation. Inquiries were carried out and three men aged 32, 62 and 69 years, and four women aged 21, 29, 60 and 90, have been charged and will be subject of a report to the procurator fiscal.”

        http://www.thenational.scot/news/18962456.marquess-socialite-daughter-charged-travelling-london-bute/

  177. grizebard says:

    I see that Ricardo Leotard the bouncing acrobat was back on his Nicola-the-Christmas-Fairy routine in Parliament today. The FM has apparently to magic 70% more vaccines out of nowhere now. What made his carefully-calculated UK/reserved blindness worse on this occasion was the self-satisfied smirk on his face after he got another life lesson from a visibly-exasperated FM.

    I’m so looking forward to May when (among other benefits) the elections will surely deliver a much harsher life lesson and wipe that smirk off his face.

    • Capella says:

      That was a truly abysmal performance from Richtea Lightvessel today. Nicola proclaimed herself “speechless” nevertheless summoned up the energy to reply. No she can’t increase the vaccine roll-out by 70%.
      What an idiot he is.

      • Dr Jim says:

        I bet Longshanks Starmer wrote Ronald Limpwrist’s wee speech today, remember he finks weer aw edyookayshunly schupit heer in Scotchtown

    • JoMax says:

      The problem is that some folk actually pay attention to these numpties at Holyrood as well as the EBC (Scotchland sub-division) and the newspapers (Aberdeen P & J, for example) as I found out while chatting to an old, but still NO, friend the other day. Talking about the restrictions on family visits and the border closure etc, but without saying too much (she knows what side I’m on) I got the distinct impression from her that the blame for this whole covid ‘fiasco’ lies with ‘she’, she being Nicola Sturgeon. I gently pointed out that the whole of the UK is affected, some parts much worse than Scotland, as well as countries around the world, to which she had to agree, but …. ‘she’, it seems, is personally putting this lady’s life on hold and is on the telly too much.

      What does this lady think any other Party would be doing at this time? It concerns me that so many folk still can’t see beyond the end of their Labour (other Parties are available) noses, reinforced by a media with no moral compass. No wonder Scotland’s stuck in a time warp with Englandshire because these are the people who risk holding us back again if we’re not careful.

      • grizebard says:

        You make a fair point here, there are such people/attitudes, and they will always be with us, I fear. It is clearly the self-assumed job of the (Labourite-populated) BBC and the Tory press to keep as many of these people as possible onside for the Union. Insulate them from the uncomfortable truth. They would clearly even blame the SG/SNP for the effects of Brexit if they possibly can.

        There are some reasons to be positive, though. There is anecdotal evidence that the transparent honesty and effectiveness of the FM is turning at least some of these blinkered “Bain Principle” folk, and once the blinkers are off, they are off for good. The change, once it comes, is remarkable.

        At times like these, people need positivity and hope. The Labour Party offers neither. It isn’t even a convincing proponent of the Union, caught in the middle trying to defend a failed devo that neither polarity now believes in.

        Sustained media bias is an ongoing problem, as we are all acutely aware. During a campaign, however, the independence side finally gets the access it is otherwise routinely denied. Provided we are organised (and funded) properly for the opportunity – unlike last time – it is a considerable asset. Last time it turned a substantial lag into a near win. With all the evidence of the last 6-7 years, it can be even more effective next time, which it will have to be to turn enough of the more cautious waverers and rally the recently-gained soft-yeses in the face of the expected tide of BritNat negativity.

        There will always be narrow-minded doubters and scoffers, and come the crunch they may even make up 40% of the vote, maybe even a tad more. But that’s not enough to stop us winning. We don’t have to get 100%. Even 55% is a “decisive” win, remember?

        • Grizebard …..people at the BBC don’t vote for Labour they vote Tory not only are they unionists but they are Tory minded
          They give Labour an easy ride to try and persuade people in Scotland to vote Labour but that’s not because they themselves would ever vote Labour or because of anything other than their hatred of Scottish independence and the SNP

          It’s because they know most of the people of Scotland will never vote Tory
          they are doing their utmost to persuade Scottish people to vote Labour instead of SNP

          The BBC would rather you vote unionist Labour than SNP

          These people in the BBC are enemies of Scotland

          • grizebard says:

            The various old-pals-and-relations connections between BBC insiders and the “Scottish” Labour party is well-documented. (No doubt someone will have a link.) Kirsty Wark-Clements and ex-FM Baron McConnell of Glenscorrodale (Jack McConnell to you and me) being just one example.

            Plantation Quay is the last bastion of the “Scottish” Labour Party, which adds a personal grudge on top of the usual Unionist motivations.

  178. grizebard says:

    You have to wonder how Starmer-Broon are ever going to explain how their beloved never-never federalism would manage to deal with another situation like the English-driven Brexit into which Scotland is being unwillingly dragged. Or another spat of overseas military adventurism, say. Would their back-of-envelope pretty promises ever countenance Scotland or Wales having a veto over English intentions? More importantly perhaps, would the English?

    Times and attitudes have changed. Devolution has failed and this federalism we’ll never get is obvously unfit for purpose, and simply illustrates just how far behind the times the Brenglish Labour Party has sunk. They will be lucky if they get anyone else to join their useless little “convention” bubble, except maybe some hangdog FibDems.

  179. Hamish100 says:

    The rich will worry about the fines, not. https://www.thenational.scot/news/18962456.marquess-socialite-daughter-charged-travelling-london-bute/

    All what is to be detested by the privileged classes.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9078805/Marquess-Bute-62-socialite-daughter-21-charged-alleged-lockdown-breach.html

    Apparently helicopter flights from Glasgow or Bute are not irregular late at night.
    Cant imagine the sent on a hamper first.

    When the Chancellor of the Exchequer went to Bute this year his entourage prevented Islanders getting on the ferry I believe. Did he drop in in the Marquis?

  180. https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/12/22/brexit-billionaires-and-the-little-people/

    INEOS the chemical empire owned by MR Ratcliffe the great supporter of brexit
    Yes INEOS who replaced SKY in the tour de France

    He has relocated to Monaco
    Nothing to with avoiding tax of course of no no no but all to do with patriotic belief in U.K. ? But hang on can that be true ?

    Not according to this report above

    • grizebard says:

      CNN was interviewig Andra Neil the other day, and thanks to the webcam connection we could see that the blighter was in Nice. These right wing hypocrites are all the same, they want the UK (with the likes of you and me) to be left adrift in mid-Atlantic, but for their own business and pleasure they are all nicely set up on the Continent, thank-you-very-much.

      • Lewis Hamilton was crowned BBC SPOTY on Sunday apparently.
        He is described as a British Driver and never ceases to wave the Butcher’s apron when on the winning podium. He lives in Monaco, has an apartment in Manhattan, and a ranch in Colorado to which he declares to retire when finished zooming around in circles.
        He is as ‘British’ as a Mongolian goat herder, and lives in Monaco to avoid paying tax in UK. He even gets a mention in the Tax Dodgers Panam Papers list.
        The rich can do what they like, live where they like, and laugh at us, Ol Polloi, from their lofty towers.
        We in the meantime must bow our heads when millionaire Starmer tells us off for being uppity little Jocks?
        WE are at war with the Iron Heel Oligarchy. A cold war, but a war nevertheless.
        I didn’t tune in to FMQ today.
        This will be their last Christmas spouting sh1t in Edinburgh.
        We go in 2021.
        Let’s have a Highland clearance. Tax the Lairds and the Tax Evaders off the land and return it to the people.
        Freedom !

      • Yes , they want the U.K. where they make their money but don’t want to actually live in the U.K.
        Like gambling businesses who make their money in U.K. but are registered in Gibraltar

  181. Derek says:

    “if turnout is 55% and there’s a Yes vote of 90%”

    Call me a picky bastard if you like, but that gives a yes vote of 49.5%…

  182. Eilidh says:

    I see that Tory rag the Sun got a picture of Nicola not wearing a mask for a short period of time at a funeral wake. when rules say she should have.There is a special place in hell reserved for anyone connected with Murdoch’s newspapers. NS isn’t perfect but i am sure loads of Sun journalists have broken the covid rules plenty of times. What normal person thinks it is ok to take photos at a funeral wake

    • Dr Jim says:

      Two ways to look at a story:

      They follow the FM all day and all evening every day then stand outside her home to make sure she doesn’t emerge before bedtime then they’re there first thing in the morning again specifically to photograph her

      It’s a testament to the FM that there are so few pictures of her doing anything that can be spun as being wrong, and a testament to how British Nationalist the press are for NOT reporting the engagements she actually does attend working for Scotland

      • Eilidh says:

        I am surprised they havent tried to get photos of her through her bathroom window as the scummy press did when poor Freddie Mercury was dying. Just had to endure Dicktwerp Leotard the Scottish Labour leader banging on about people having their human rights abused. Well I have my human rights abused on a daily basis by Dicktwat that little lying moron Willie Rennie Ruth the mooth the scumbag mainstream media including the BBC and every Tory politician. I am so sick of the situation Scotland is in politically and culturally just now most days emigration seems a realĺy good idea although I don’t think the planet Mars is far enough

      • P Harvey says:

        There is a distinct difference between Nicola’s momentary lack of forgetting the Face rule – who hasn’t done this?
        And twice driving to your holiday home or going for a long drive to test your eyes – both of which are premeditated acts
        If this is the best the combined might of the biased media can find on Nicola she deserves a Sainthood!😂
        And a Referendum!

    • Golfnut says:

      The picture I saw has Nicola 2 metres away and outside, neither of the 2 pensioners had masks on, why? Because it’s allowed. Even inside your allowed to remove journals once seated, appropriately distancing of course.

    • jfngw says:

      It’s obvious BritNat nonsense, if she had just sat down on the seat she was leaning on then there would be no story. No doubt the Sun had someone outside the toilet door listening to the tap running to ensure she washed her hands for 20 secs as well, that’s about the veracity and newsworthiness of this story.

      What it does reveal is the paucity of journalism at the BBC that they believe it is headline stuff. Also scoffs the myth the BritNat are really closet NS supporters wanting to keep her in power, so beloved of the Wangs over Scotland crowd.

    • Capella says:

      The Express has it as well. It’s the TOP NEWS ITEM on BBC Scotland’s web page. I haven’t bothered listening to them today, interviewing Tories all day long as they do.

      Nothing of any importance has been brought to their attention today, clearly.

      • Legerwood says:

        Indeed Capella nothing of importance to report as the MSM see i such as:
        A) The UK Gov refusing to say how many doses of the vaccine have been delivered over and above the initial 800,000
        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/22/nhs-leaders-raise-concerns-pace-covid-vaccine-rollout

        The story above is NHSEngland related but has obvious implications for Scotland.

        Or

        B) That the UK Gov is considering reducing the Pfizer vaccine to one dose. Reported in the Telegraph so no link…paywall. according to the BBC one T Blair is also touting this idea. Well known for his astounding knowledge of Virology and medicine NOT.

        Take the two stories together add in blockages at ports etc and what does that suggest?

    • Bob Lamont says:

      Indeed, comically featured by BBC Scotland allowing James (I’ve seen the email) Cook to wang on about Scotland internationally not doing so well over Covid, Dr Calderwood, etc., etc..
      It’s a glaring pattern, much as the QEUH “scandal” is regurgitated with monotonous regularity no matter how tenuous the link, it’s an opportunity to recycle old SG smear attempts rather than present news, that’s not journalism but propaganda.

  183. Arthur Thomson says:

    It’s only right that the various shades of Tory and their super sleuths should be accusing that Sturgeon woman of being flawed. Someone has to expose her lack of perfection and the louder the clamour the more people will have to face the facts. She is just a very smart, very caring, human being working her heart ❤ out for her fellow Scots. Not infallible at all. Let those who are perfect throw the first stones.

    For my part, I forgive those who are attacking her. They know not what they do.

    Heads we win, tails they lose.

  184. bringiton says:

    Willie Rennie frothing at the mouth during FMQ today regarding the current independence campaign being carried out by the FM during a Pandemic.
    According to Rennie,she should be fixing schools,hospitals,unemployment etc and not running a political campaign.
    What campaign?
    Perhaps something is going on in the Kingdom of Fife that the rest of us don’t know about?
    I suppose he has to be outraged about something.

  185. Dr Jim says:

    BBC news tells us that Singapore a country the same size as Scotland has only 29 deaths from Covid 19 and aren’t they doing so well, well yes they are but of course Singapore isn’t the same size as Scotland is it, because at 278 square miles and Scotland at 32 thousand square miles is a more than slight difference, also Singapore is an Independent country able to set all of its own boundaries rules and laws as it chooses without being connected to any other country who has control over its finances

    So what the BBC NEWS is saying is that because Scotland’s population is the same as Singapore that’s the criteria for measurement which of course is the whole basis upon which England bases its dominance of Scotland’s affairs

    Too wee means less populated in the English version of the English language, and they wonder why the rest of the world has no time for a country that can’t understand its own language, or can it?

    but thanks anyway BBC for reinforcing the absolute imperative of Scotland’s Independence

  186. Dr Jim says:

    FMQs today featured the self important wee school prefect, then the tall small petty wee man followed by the wannabee comrade, and trailing in last place the wee girn man, the last match in his box unable to outshine the FMs 500 watt floodlight

    Wee Willie in his efforts at least confirmed what we on this website all know there was supposed to be a referendum this year which the FM shelved because of Covid and there will be one next year because the English government refused to shelve their plans, so Goose Gander

    What will they do over at the Bathistan Chronicle to spin this into bad Sturge bad Sturge lies cover up conspiracy I hate folk who don’t hate the same folk as me Aargh head burst

    And the FM soldiers on

    • Legerwood says:

      Particularly so since she was at a funeral when your thoughts are on the person who died and on their family and friends not your bl**dy mask.

      For the MSM this is all about clickbait.

  187. yesindyref2 says:

    Sturgeon did break the mask rules, she was inside the pub as can be seen from a Sun photo she’s resting her hand on a chair at a table, it wasn’t the wake part of the bar it was the public part, she was standing whereas the pensioners who had nothing to do with the funeral, were sitting at a table.

    She apologised straight away, she even made a statement and apologised again at FMQs before after asking the PO, apparently nobody after that asked a question.

    James Cook of the BBC said that on the scale of severity it was minor, with Cummings being more like major. And here’s what an arch-Unionist posted on the Herald (he also used to post on the National):

    Can we move on please? I have nothing but contempt for Sturgeon, but please, this is a big box full of nothing.

    Honesty is the best policy, which Sturgeon transparently followed. If like some of her supporters she had tried to say “It was nothing”, she’d have blown it, big time. As it is, I doubt it did any harm at all, and maybe even further enhanced her standing.

    She blew it, small time, owned up and apologised.

  188. Bob Lamont says:

    Janey nails it…

  189. Petra says:

    That’s youse telt 😀.

    Lochfyne langoustines Ltd & Lochfyne seafarms Ltd:-”Message for ⁦@BorisJohnson and @MichaelGove⁩ Access to markets is key for our business we have been telling you this for months.” ⁦https://mobile.twitter.com/LochfyneLangous/status/1341414272853794823

    …………………………………………….

    And that’s us telt 😀.

    Phantom Power:- ”‘The Vow was actually delivered.” Gordon Brown telling a most extraordinary lie earlier today.” https://mobile.twitter.com/PhantomPower14/status/1341484267092766724

  190. Petra says:

    ‘Information warfare spy tech firm Palantir lands £23m NHS data deal.’

    ”TruePublica Editor: The article below is more alarming than many people would give credit to. Whilst it highlights yet another scandal, yet more law-breaking and immorality at the heart of government, it doesn’t quite tell the reader who the company that supposedly won this contract really is. Palantir Technologies is not just ‘controversial’ – it is much worse than being a bit dubious or questionable. For instance, Palantir has a suite of three companies operating in the USA. One is involved in counter-terrorism, another in information warfare and one used by hedge funds, banks, and financial services firms. It should be noted that Palantir also has its tentacles reaching into the CIA, NSA, FBI, and most of the military.”..

    https://truepublica.org.uk/united-kingdom/information-warfare-spy-tech-firm-palantir-lands-23m-nhs-data-deal/

    ……………………………………………..

    Lord Speaker:- ”Mr Johnson has added 16 to his list of appointments bringing the total for the year up to 52 new peers over two lists. This list will bring the total in the House of Lords to over 830 – almost 200 more than the House of Commons.” https://mobile.twitter.com/LordSpeaker/status/1341391884644704262

  191. Petra says:

    Check out Professor John Robertson’s latest articles.

    https://talkingupscotlandtwo.com/blog-feed/

    ………………………………

    Check out Ann’s latest links on the indyref2 site.

    https://indyref2.space/forum/topic/links-wednesday-23-december-2020/

  192. Petra says:

    ”Covid-19 variant: New strain from South Africa discovered in the UK.”

    ..”The Tory minister said both cases and close contacts of the cases have been quarantined, there are immediate restrictions on travel from South Africa and the Government is telling those who have been in contact with anyone who has been in South Africa in the last fortnight that they must quarantine.”..

    http://www.thenational.scot/news/18965910.even-infectious-covid-19-variant-discovered-uk/

    ………………………………………………….

    And you wonder why we’re encountering so many problems here? For one, take a look at the map.

    http://www.kayak.co.uk/travel-restrictions

    • Bob Lamont says:

      Re – ”Covid-19 variant: New strain from South Africa discovered in the UK”, it seems damned strange after near 9 months of effective blackout on Covid detail in England, the Tories are suddenly anxious to talk to the media of disaster unfolding because of a, b, c, etc..

      The “NEW” variant (which caused sudden chaos re channel etc travel) was known about since September, it would not surprise if this SA variant proves similarly known before.

      This looks increasingly as if the Tory Covid strategy is finally unravelling in London and SEE. and the Tories are getting their excuses into circulation.

  193. Dr Jim says:

    The European Union delivered devolution and not as the lying Labour party claim *we dun it*

    The Labour party built themselves a Holyrood castle in Scotland that they thought would secure their Kingdom forever then sat on their Arses lappin up the cream until the SNP took it from them and informed Scotland it was the people of Scotland’s castle and they would defend it and work in it on their behalf, it was at that moment the Labour party revealed their true colours as drones of the Conservative and Unionist party and spat their hatred out all over Scotland’s people for having the temerity not to vote for them

    Vote Labour and get spat on again

    We all know what the Tories are they don’t try to hide it, but Labour are worse, they are the Snottery wee brat in the playground sent out by the big boys to whisper trouble in other kids ears to cause fights between friends, they’re the wee Nyaff at the dancin sent to break up the couple twistin the night away on behalf of their drunk gang leader, they’re the Snidy committee man in the Social club sitting in judgemental power over a member who broke a rule, they’re the bent local councillor who receives brown paper envelopes for favours granted to building companies, they’re the smirking expensive house owner on a salary that shouldn’t afford such a property, they’re the slimy charity organiser for a good cause that only managed to gather half the money everybody expected it should

    In my 72 years on earth this and more is all I have ever seen of the British Labour party in my country

    • Petra says:

      Spot on Dr Jim you’ve got them down to a T. T for toerags 😀.

      • Petra says:

        And I see that another toerag is playing Cluedo again, ”speculating and guessing”, and trying to whip up hatred against Scotland’s First Minister … again. Conning and lulling his cult followers into playing a wee ”light-hearted festive parlour game”, whereby he wants them to ”offer some more innocent explanations by giving it their best shots.” In other words he’s using them to do his dirty work for him again. Absolutely pathetic. What a sad wee man. How the mighty fall as they say and as I’ve pointed out previously claimants have three years from the date the defamatory material was published to bring an action for defamation.

        • Robert McCandless says:

          He only faces tbe evidence that you can’t bear to.

        • Dr Jim says:

          He set himself up against the FM testing what he thought was his popularity over hers, he lost and he just keeps losing, when the might of the British press can’t dent her popularity it’s the absolute height of arrogance to suppose that he can succeed where they continue to fail

          Today was an example of the FMs popularity in Scotland when even the ordinary supporters of the Union just refused to join in the attempted feeding frenzy the media tried to create over a two minute lapse in concentration over a mask

          Perhaps he’s attempting to get himself sent a lawyers letter for hate speech so he can *crowdfund* himself next years legal fees in the hope he’ll get on the Telly again to increase his diminishing cult of cashpoint donors

          And the FM soldiers on

  194. grizebard says:

    Is there any truth to the rumour (which I just started) that Redundo Lighthead, intellectual acrobat of little renown and leader of the Scotlandshire Leftard Party, following on from his performance in Parliament today, is about to sue Covid for breach of his civil rights?

    I have also heard whisperings (which as usual come when in bed in the wee sma’ hours) to the effect that the abovementioned Limpwrist is also to bring a private prosecution against the virus. I give no credence whatever to such nonsense, however, since it is well known that he has long wished instead to lay charges against the leader of the SNP for theft of the Leftards’ rightful votes. (I suspect he has been watching too much American TV news.)

    What I can also reveal on the basis of the maladroit gymnast’s recent appearances in Parliament is that, failing any other success, he is now mounting a strong challenge for the unprestigious Fatuous Smirker of the Year Award against current leading contender Priti Pathetic, English Toady MP and assiduous champion of the overdog.

    • ArtyHetty says:

      Reckon that rumour is half way round the world by now Jack. 😀
      In second place, that wee jobsworth Bowie could be awarded a rosette for smirkiest smirker of the century, he must practice in front of the mirror that one.
      Mirror mirror, who is the bestest smirker of them all, in fact it’s now a signature default expression for the BritNats!