Warning: Contains Tory chicken


The leaderette of the Tory branch office in Scotland and the living embodiment of the truth of the principle of nominative determination, DRoss, has promised us this weekend that he’ll stand up to the Johnson administration on the issue of chlorinated chicken. “I would have no hesitation in voting against any legislation which would allow chlorinated chicken or hormone-injected beef into this country. That’s a categorical assurance,” said DReck in a tweet on Sunday.

Isn’t that just marvellous? A Scottish Tory with a backbone. That’s as rare a creature as a chlorinated chicken with teeth and an active interest in telling the truth. So rare in fact, that it doesn’t exist. Just like DRudge’s backbone. Or indeed his ability to tell the truth.

The uncomfortable fact for DRivel here is that just a short while ago he voted against the very thing that he now claims he’s going to stand up for. In July DRibbler voted against an amendment to the Trade Bill which was aimed at protecting British farmers and maintaining food standards. The Bill creates the legal framework for the UK’s trade policy following the end of the EU Transition period at the end of this December.

The amendment would have created a new Clause 11 to the Bill. If passed it would have ensured that foodstuffs could only be imported into the UK if they complied with standards equal to or higher than those in force in the UK at the time of import. These standards relate to animal welfare, environmental protection, food safety and hygiene, and plant health. The clause would also have required the UK Government to prepare a register of standards under UK law which relate to those requirements, ensuring that any imports could easily be checked against them. If adopted, this amendment would have made the importation of chlorinated chicken and hormone injected beef illegal.

It’s bad enough to vote down what you’re now claiming that you’re going to stand up for once. The big problem for DRab is that he’s done it twice. The new Scottish Conservative leaderette also voted against an amendment to Clause 2 of the Agriculture Bill on 13 May this year when the issue was put to a vote in the House of Commons. This bill sets the standards for agricultural production in the UK following the end of the EU transitional period. The amendment to the bill was tabled by the Tory backbencher Neil Parish and former minister of state for DEFRA Theresa Villiers which would have made it law that any foods imported into the UK must match the quality and animal welfare standards of agricultural production in the UK. Farmers were keen on this protection as it would ensure that they could not be undercut by imported foods cheaply produced to lower standards than are lawful in the UK. Along with every other Scottish Conservative MP, DRab voted it down.

Not once but twice, the Great Saviour of the YooKay has refused to do the very thing that he’s now claiming that he’s going to do as he attempts to pose as the great defender of Scottish farming interests. There’s more bullshit there than there is in all the cowsheds in Scotland combined.

During an uncomfortable interview with Radio Scotland this morning, DRubbed tried to make out that the fact that just a couple of months ago he had actually voted against what he now claims to be standing up for was just propaganda. It was incorrect, he said, that he had voted against Clause 11 of the Trade Bill, and attempted to attack the interviewer for listening to “cybernats”. It is however an incontrovertible fact that DRongo voted against Clause 11 of the Trade Bill. It is likewise an incontrovertible fact that he voted against Clause 2 of the Agriculture Bill. These are actual things which have actually happened, unlike DRopsie’s pose as the champion of Scottish food production standards, which only exists in his own imagination.

DRone has voted against what he now claims to be standing up for, not once, but twice. Now he’s trying to pretend that he didn’t vote the way he voted, and refused to stand up for Scottish farmers or food standards. But then a couple of months ago him and his pals – that would be you Ruth – were still plotting the demise of Surname Surname and it really wouldn’t have done for DRegs to have rebelled against Johnson, because then he couldn’t have counted on the Prime Minister’s support for the putsch against the car salesman. As ever with the Conservatives, it’s their own personal interests that come first. Then their party’s. The rest of us don’t get a look in.

The truly remarkable thing here is that DReadful thinks we’re so stupid and have such short memories that we won’t recall what he did just a few weeks ago – not once but twice. We should of course be kind here, and be bigger people than your average Scottish Conservative MP. Who are it must be said, exceptionally average. It is entirely possible that DRooling didn’t lie about how he voted. It could be that he just forgot, because he has a poorer memory and lower intelligence than one of those chlorinated chickens that he now claims to be defending us from. Those are the only possibilities here. He’s either a liar, or he’s deeply stupid. Although of course it must be admitted that those two possibilities are not mutually exclusive.

When you get angry and defensive when confronted with your own voting record, it’s a sign that you’re perhaps not going to be the great performer and saviour of the union that your backers think you’re going to be. Douglas Ross has only been the leader of the Scottish Conservatives for a few weeks, yet he’s already lurched from one presentational disaster to another. If this is the quality of the campaign to prevent Scottish independence, the British nationalists could save themselves a whole lot of time, energy, and bother by just conceding now that they’ve already lost. Because one thing is for sure, no amount of DRoss is going to win this campaign for them.

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71 comments on “Warning: Contains Tory chicken

  1. Movy says:

    Great article as usual but….
    I have to question the statement that the average Scottish Conservative MP is exceptionally average.
    Personally I find them all exceptionally DReadful, just like their leader.

  2. Welsh Sion says:

    DRoasted Chicken.


    Trade Bill: Report Stage: New Clause 11
    Division 79: held on 20 July 2020


    Agriculture Bill: Report Stage: New Clause 2 (Neil Parish)
    Division 42: held on 13 May 2020

    – Either both WGD and Hansard lie, or DReadful lies. You decide.

    • Wee Chid says:

      Hansard must be wrong, I suppose. Wonder why he didn’t challenge their error at the time?

  3. carolclark1 says:

    No Welsh Sion, WGD and Hansard don’t lie, Dross does, but then what do you expect from a Tory. Never ever trust a Tory, that way leads to lies, heartache, anger and high blood pressure.

  4. David Agnew says:

    He is a Scottish Tory. That is his crime. It is also his punishment.

    • ArtyHetty says:

      He was cajoled into the role, he owes the Tory party something for sure. One wee telephone call, you can imagine the tone, ‘get your sorry ar*e down here, you owe us!’ There he trots, ticket in hand, new suit, down to Landun, pushed in front of the cameras, serves him right.

      • David Agnew says:

        Being bounced into the role of Scottish “leader” of the conservatives to allow Ruth back in as “deputy” – the reality is that he is the deputy and she is party leader as she is the only one that can sit in Holyrood. She knows she is on the way out, but has her nice wee seat in the lords and a consultancy position. Nothing succeeds like failure in the tory party.

  5. ArtyHetty says:

    Excellent, ‘leaderette’, love that, very fitting indeed. Did the media go all tonto when he started getting all ‘shouty’ when being interviewed? (lying).

    The BritNat media were very offended when Kate Forbes, competent Scottish minister for the economy, refused to cower or allow the interviewer to talk over her, answering his questions in an animated tone so as not to be silenced like they usually do to anyone from the SNP on TV. How dare SHE, they said.

    D.Ross now takes a massive wage from the public purse to lie and he is not even very good at that.
    Will he be up to a televised Q&A with Nicola Sturgeon before the Scottish election next year? That would be entertaining. Might as well have a laugh. Leotard, Dross and Nicola, on TV, she’d have them for breakfast, can we make that happen?

  6. Alex Clark says:

    I’ve no idea why they choose DRoss as the new would be saviour of the Union on behalf of the Tories, I really don’t. Anytime I have ever heard him talk on any subject, what comes out of his mouth is just DRoss.

    I really hope that moniker sticks, the party is DRoss as well.

    • Simples, Alex. His young wife put her foot down when the babby arrived. No more flying of to London every week, and Kilmarnock, Glasgow and Edinburgh at the week end.
      I have a sense that it is as prosaic as that.
      The money’s the same now he’s got the ‘leadership’ add ons Up Here.
      Has Carjack Lawson quit?

      Ross is hen pecked?

    • Republicofscotland says:

      “I’ve no idea why they choose DRoss as the new would be saviour of the Union on behalf of the Tories, I really don’t.”

      Probably because Johnson trusts him, he past the test set out for him by resigning on principal over Johnsons action earlier on this year. That test of loyalty to Johnson, was rewarded with the position of Scottish Tory branch leader (In Absentia).

      Of course a Tory can spin on a sixpence, just take Colonel Ruth (rape clause) Davidson, Operation Arse, is now Operation Ermine.

    • because the scot tory msps were 100% against no deal, thats why they are all resigning. the scot tory mps, after being in westminster 2 years are now all bojo english nationalist no deal brexiters. those that survived 2019 that is. bojo wants one of them in holyrood leading the tories, not the wishy washy pro eu types. ruth stepped into the breach in exchange for an ermine rag. nice deal for six months work

  7. Republicofscotland says:

    As you rightly point out Ross’s actions say differently, Ross wouldn’t completely deny that Carlaw was ousted, so that he could fill the post. Ross is Johnson’s favourite Scottish minion at the moment I think, like a typical Scottish branch office Tory, he knows he can promise almost anything knowing fine well he’ll never be in a position (As FM) to deliver it.

    Richard what’s his name is in the same position, as is Willie Rennie.

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  9. jfngw says:

    Looks like he has trying to claim the yellow card for diving is totally unwarranted when it is caught on camera. How can someone that lies with such consummate ease be an official in charge of anything were integrity is supposed to be a given.

    He was a invisible MSP, and ineffective MP and I suspect will be a disastrous leader, you thought they could not pick anyone more inept than Carlaw, just watch this space. He is Johnson’s/Cummings man flown into Holyrood to push their policies, they see his attribute as toadying not independence of thought. He will stand up to for Scotland the same way Davidson did, by folding at the least bit of pressure from head office.

    After we’ve discussed the dross, now the quality, I see Michelle Thomson has put her name forward for election next year. It’s a embarrassing comparison for the Tories.

  10. Eilidh says:

    New mathematical formula for Scotand
    Tory + Tory = Liars
    Wait a minute that’s exactly the same as normal for Tories!!

  11. Golfnut says:

    I wonder if its possible that he didn’t know what he was voting for, or in this case against, that they are indeed just voting fodder.

  12. Julia Gibb says:

    DRoss is not the leader!
    Ruthless is the leader. The sham of a pretend resignation and unopposed ascendency was all a cover to put the Mooth back ringside.

    Why are we all pretending otherwise?

    • weegingerdug says:

      Neither of them is the leader. That’s why I refer to him as the leaderette.

      The performance artiste whose stage name is Boris Johnson and his puppet master Cummings are the leaders.

      • Jams O'Donnell says:

        Probably, in reality, only Master Cummings is the leader – Johnston is just “a paper tiger’ as the Chinese used to say.

        • Pogmothon says:

          Always there are two, no more, no less, a Master and a Minister.

          Only this time the master is exposed for all to see.

  13. #YoonForADay


  14. Doug says:

    I’ve no apology to offer when I say people like DRoss are traitors to Scotland. What disgusts me most is their arrogant contempt which they brazenly show towards the people of Scotland. These britnats survive, just, purely because the equally disgusting media props them up.

  15. not sure why craig murray has an article up about the monarchy which includes a youtube video link to a concert hall rendition from the good ol’ days of Hinge and Bracket singing rule britannia 😦 I’d rather squirt cillit bang in my eyes …

  16. Brian says:

    Nice one, Mr Kavanagh. You suggested the idea that the DRibbler had to vote against Clause 11 because the plot to oust Surname Surname was being hatched at the time, meaning DRip couldn’t risk losing BJ’s support and had no option but show loyalty and vote against the Clause. I see what you’re saying. Sounds plausible. The only thing is, that implies that there’s a chance that DR might have done the *right* thing and voted *for* the Clause if the Holyrood plot wasn’t a thing. I think the chances of that alternative outcome are slim to none. We’ll never know, and I can’t prove it, but I suspect DRat would still have voted ‘no’, and would still be denying it now, Holyrood plot or not. He Simply Cannot Be Trusted. He’s since been called out by John Beattie, on Drivetime.

  17. Jams O'Donnell says:

    Well, I don’t want to be complacent, but with opponents like that how can we lose?

  18. Alex Clark says:

    Oh dear, looks like somebody has been talking dross and pissed of the leaders of the National Farmers Union in Scotland for misrepresenting their position in relation to Clause 11.

    The Scottish Tory leader, Douglas Ross, has been accused of twisting quotes from the National Farmers Union in the debate over US exports of chlorinated chicken and hormone-injected beef.

    Jonnie Hall, policy director for National Farmers Union Scotland, said he was left “fuming” after Ross quoted him agreeing that MPs had never voted in favour of cutting the UK’s food quality standards.

    Ross cited NFU Scotland’s response when BBC Scotland questioned him about an interview with the Guardian in which he said: “I would be in no doubt and have no hesitation in voting against any legislation which would allow those products into this country. That’s a categorical assurance…”

    Hall said that was a misrepresentation of NFU Scotland’s position. He said the union shared widespread concerns about the UK government’s decision to reject an amendment to the trade bill, known as clause 11, which would require all future food and drink imports, plant health and environmental standards to meet or exceed the UK’s exacting food safety standards.

    “I was fuming at the time,” Hall said. “And I remain very concerned that an honest and straightforward answer to a question has been basically turned through 180 degrees and to misrepresent the situation, whereby, I think people are being misled.”


    This new Tory leader in Scotland looks like he will have his work cut out if his efforts to date are anything to go by. He might even exceed May and Johnson in the incompetency stakes.

  19. Petra says:

    ”Red Card for Dougie! This stooshie between @Douglas4Moray and the Scottish farmers is exquisite. In 2014 there was hardly a Yes banner in any farmer’s field from the Borders to Shetland, and here’s wee Dougie alienating his core support. Gaun yersel wee man!” https://twitter.com/billykayscot/status/1300477028844605442?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet


    ”Here’s the exchange between Douglas Ross and Jonnie Hall at my Committee. Jonnie is correct that no one voted to ‘reduce’ standards as Clause 11 was all about ‘upholding’ them. I’ll leave it up to you to decide about the propriety of this being misinterpreted by the Tories…” https://twitter.com/PeteWishart/status/1300494623203373062?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

  20. Petra says:

    What levers? The Scottish Government has no control, for example, over immigration, trade and industry or employment law. What a lying, manipulative wee DRat. https://twitter.com/ScotTories/status/1300440708487106563?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet


    ‘Devolved and Reserved Matters.’


  21. Welsh Sion says:

    Off topic – but for schrodinger’s cat (and anyone else interested).

    There have only been two polls – both a long, long time ago – analysing Welsh opinion of independence should Scotland become independent. (One feels such a poll is overdue …)


    Date July 2016
    Polling organisation ITV Wales/ YouGov
    Sample 1,010
    YES 19%
    NO 61%
    Undecided 21%

    Date March 2013
    Polling organisation ITV Wales/ YouGov
    Sample Unknown
    YES 10%
    NO 62%
    Undecided 28%

    • One feels such a poll is overdue

      you can say that again Sion. some folk say polls are used to encourage folk to vote in a certain way. i dunno if true but that shouldnt stop us trying it 🙂

  22. Petra says:

    ‘Gary Robertson sorts Douglas Ross out but Glen Campbell is not going there.’



    Check out Ann’s links on the Indyref2 site.


    • Dr Jim says:

      Glen Campbell did what I call a *murfle*, words came out but by the time he’d finished you’d no idea what he said
      I’ve seen many newsy folk do this when they have to report something but want to cover it up at the same time *murfle*

  23. Republicofscotland says:

    What do we make of this, that Bonnie Prince Charlie actually repealed the Act of Union in 1745.


    • We Scots will not concede …ever

      Thanks traquir

    • Petra says:

      Time to tell Lizzie the First to step down and if we want to reclaim our monarchical line contact Leichtenstein (spelling?). Then again hold a referendum, get our independence and then hold further referendums on issues of importance to us. The Swiss way.

  24. Petra says:

    ‘You have no place here’: Incoming BBC chief to tell partisan journalists to leave bias behind.’

    ”New director general expected to curtail social media use and force high profile figures to report private sector speaking fees.”

    ..”Tim Davie will set out his plans for the corporation from its Glasgow offices on Thursday having taken on the role from Lord Hall, who stepped down from the top job last week to serve chair of the board for the National Gallery.”..

    ..”According to The Sunday Times Mr Davie, a former PepsiCo marketing manager who twice stood as a Conservative party councillor in west London, is expected to tell journalists: “Impartiality is our bedrock.”..


  25. Welsh Sion says:

    Mr Davie, a former PepsiCo marketing manager …

    … hopes to bring more fizz to the BBC, but in reality his bubble will pop soon enough, and his novelty value will be flat in a few days.

    Guid nicht, Scotland!

  26. darthtimon says:

    I wrote to my local MP (who happens to be a Tory) after the Tories en-masse voted against protecting food and animal welfare standards, and also voted against protecting the NHS from being sold off. His answer was that as it was a manifesto pledge, we should trust the Tories and there’s no need to vote such measures into law.

    I’ve yet to respond, however we all know manifesto promises are not worth the paper they’re printed on. If they truly wanted to honour their pledges, they’d vote to enforce them.

  27. Correct

    No amount of DRoss is going to save the Conservative party in Scotland

    And no amount of DRoss is going to get Ruth Davidson into the House of Lords in London

    Ruth Davidson has to put an end to Scottish independence to get her feet in the House of Lords
    That is the deal

    To be honest any idiot , or donkey or block of wood claiming and able to stop Scottish independence would be declared a lord and invited to the House of Lords

    It’s what they do

    Encourage , assist , reward turncoats as an example of what you can gain if you betray your own country and it’s people in favour of England

  28. Col says:

    Well I hope the SNP do all they can to get Scotlands farmers well and truly on side! Promise them far greater subsidies in line with what other EU countries receive.
    I would love to see our farmers hit our cities, possibly close the border in a mass demonstration against our treatment from Westminster. Spray our new colonial building in Edinburgh which the Queen herself was more than happy to put her name to with shit!
    Let’s embarrass those bastards in front of the world because they will be watching the brexit shit show with some huge buckets of popcorn.

    • Remember this though

      When you say “ farmers “ what do you mean ?

      Most farmers in Scotland do not own the farm they rent it or manage it
      Most farmers in Scotland do not own the land they farm

      The media often refer to “farmers “ but it could be any one of the following they are really talking about

      The farmer who rents his farm he doesn’t own the farm or the land or the machinery

      The farmer who doesn’t own the farm or own the land he doesn’t even rent the farm he just manages it

      The farmer who owns the farm and the land but doesn’t actually work as a farmer wouldn’t know how he just owns it or is a shareholder in the company that owns it

      The britnat media use the term “ farmer “ when reporting and it could be any one of these above examples the story is about , I’m sure you will agree they are all very very different in terms of their income and wealth and influence

  29. Mr Davie will take his instructions from England’s Westminster
    All this is doing is giving it a fresh lick of paint

    But it’s still the same colour red white and blue

    Heard it all before

    Pepsi man will bring a bit of Americanisation to Scotland’s TV and airwaves
    He will bedrock impartiality but not really , all he will do is present some lies as evidence of impartiality
    Just another layer of the C… we have at present.

    They will keep trying
    Westminster will spend spend spend change change change
    Hoping to find something that works

    But it’s all superficial
    Anything that works will just be a trick
    England’s Westminster had , still have the option of treating Scotland and Scottish people fairly
    That would be the simple workable fair cost effective thing to do

    But this s not about simple workability
    It’s not about being fair
    It’s not about being cost effective

    It’s about control, bullying , it’s about “ WE OWN YOU “

    They’re losing
    They know it
    That’s why we are seeing change a minute britnat politics propaganda media
    Their spending is unlimited

    Their weakness is that they have NO allegiance
    They don’t even support themselves wholeheartedly
    they’re a group of individual deceivers
    aiding and abetting each other for personal gain wearing authoratitive emblems be it BBC or Conservative party or U.K. govt they’re all in it together right enough just not for your benefit or safety

    • Petra says:

      I read elsewhere that Mr Davie is going to be based in Glasgow. I wonder what that’s all about 😎?

  30. David Agnew says:

    I know I am probably only being cynical, but I can’t shake the feeling that he will for various reasons stand down, and allow calls for Ruthless to once again take up the mantle of leadership. A role that she will graciously accept. Then she gets kicked out at the next election and buggers off to London to be a peer and commentator on Scottish issues.

    • weegingerdug says:

      I’m not so sure. I think the Tories just have a far higher estimation of DRoss’s abilities than he actually possesses. When you’re in the land of the blind the one eyed man is king, and all that. The rest of them are utterly bereft of any ability whatsoever. Which also makes them very poor judges of who is going to perform well. I am sure that they calculated that because he’s not in Holyrood he’ll be protected from exposure and that will allow him to build his “brand” while he gets a free ride from a sympathetic media.

      However he’s doing even worse than Jackson Carlaw and he’s not even in Holyrood. That’s quite the achievement.

      • Dr Jim says:

        Such is the understanding of people in general that the British Nationalists think if they appoint Scottish people to screw over Scottish people we’ll somehow feel better about it
        That lack of understanding of people is made more evident by the hiding away of their secretary of state for Scotland who has an English accent because they believe that Scots equate English accents with being wrong uns
        So when you come to think of it it’s pretty insulting of them or pretty stupid, but the thing they never think is it’s their own British Nationalist thinking that’s never changed in hundreds of years that makes them unable to realise that people know when they’re being screwed and it’s not the accent they despise, it’s the guy inside the accent no matter where that comes from

      • David Agnew says:

        Well he certainly was way out in front of Carlaw on the mediocrity stakes before he took Carlaw’s job.

    • i disagree, tories like mundell, davidson, tompkins, carlaw etc are not pro brexit english nationalists

      dross has been chosen because he is just the sort of tory that wm now wants up here. they cleaned out all of the wm tories they didnt like, holyrood is next. davidson wont be leader, she wont even be standing. dross will be since he is top of the list in his region.

      their will be a cull of scot tory list msps, replaced by those willing to call for holyrood to be shut down.

      Tory list candidates assured of election

  31. gus1940 says:

    I reckon that the plan is for Ruth to be Secretary Of Sate ‘For’ Scotland in the Lords where she will escape SNP questioning as they don’t send anybody to the Lords.

    • Petra says:

      That’ll be short lived Gus. She’ll no sooner have arrived than to see our MP’s walk out of Westminster and following a referendum see us walk away from the Union. She’ll, like a number of other BritNat politicians and journalists (and others), will be remembered for all time coming as being a total lying, U-turning, callous, corrupt failure of a woman (man). What a legacy, eh?

  32. Petra says:

    I’m posting from my IPad and the page keeps refreshing to the point that I can’t read the full article at all. Wondering if there’s a timetable of where they’re going to be when exactly? Great idea and just goes to show, another example, that some folks are continuing to work their socks off for us…. like Paul and that wee dug 🐶. What’s his name again 🤔? Between one thing and another we’re getting there folks 😀. Freedom is beckoning 😎.


  33. yesindyref2 says:

    WHAT is wrong with you people?

    Can’t any of you come up with “Torinated chicken”, or even “Torynated chicken”?


  34. Ken2 says:

    Ross is just a complete idiot. Just like Johnston. Everything they say and do is in dispute. Liars always get found out.

    The Tories have lost their lead in the rest of the UK. Now on par with Labour. It will not be long before Johnston and Ross are gone. SNP will hold the balance of power. Another IndyRef soon. That will be won. Support for SNP/Independence increasing.

  35. Petra says:

    What four weeks into the job and one faux-pas after another?

    ‘Power grab bill leaves Douglas Ross’s Tory plan in tatters.’

    ”Douglas Ross’s economic proposals to “power up Scotland” began to unravel yesterday after it emerged one of his key pledges would be banned by the UK Government.”



    I see that Stella Moris is trying to raise funds (11 days ago) to assist with her partner’s, Julian Assange, legal costs. No mention of it ”elsewhere” 🙄?


  36. Petra says:

    WGD:- ‘The Tories are reeling and this is what the indy movement must do.’

    ..”It’s because Scotland’s electorate can see the stark contrast between the shambling chaos that surrounds Johnson and the brisk efficiency of Nicola Sturgeon that support for independence has been rising.”..

    ..”The real political giants in Scotland are the people of Scotland, a people growing increasingly angry and frustrated that the Conservatives dare to refuse us our democratic rights.”..



    Lord (George Foulkes) complains to BBC over Nicola Sturgeon’s coronavirus briefings.’

    ”A Labour peer has revealed he made a formal complaint to BBC Scotland over the First Minister’s daily coronavirus briefings, claiming they break Ofcom rules.” 🤣🤣🤣


    • David Agnew says:

      the tories are scared but are too tory in their ways to do anything about it, except make it worse. I saw a recent link to a desperately bad piece in the Herald by Mark Smith. Its the worst example of the cringe I have ever seen. It is literally bemoaning the fact that Scots no longer like being poor and making do. Yes its the old “I remember when” refrain. Only this time he is trying to make poverty an aspiration. Talking about an older generation who were virtuous in their penury and isn’t that what made Scotland great. Isn’t that what we’ll miss when the union is gone?

      Christ but its grim.

      But it is also a sense that that the unionist press are starting to brick it.

  37. Dr Jim says:

    As long as people in Scotland remember not to pin their hopes on the fact that England might be changing their mind and considering voting Labour that that will somehow save Scotland from the horrors when in reality it won’t, it’ll only emphasise the fact that once again Scotland has no power to change it’s own future and is dependent on England to politically choose Scotland’s destiny

    Of course one other thing Scotland should also remember is Labour are just the Tory B team

  38. Willie says:

    Let’s all face facts.

    Firstly, the Scottish Parliament is going to be neutered, and neutered absolutely.

    Secondly, the hard won reputation and identity of Scottish produce is going to be tanked, and like the Parliament, tanked absolutely. The race to the bottom, be it hormone beef, anti biotic fed pigs, pesticide laced crops, or genetically modified crops is underway – and the suppression of the Scottish branding will only put the tin hat on it.

    Thirdly, fishing rights are not Scottish fishing rights and for the morons who thought that fishing would return fishing to Scotland, they are about to find out that its British fishing.

    Lastly, in our new found offshore sweat shop, I think millions of workers are going to find out exactly what it will mean when worker protections such as maternity leave, maximum working week, holidays with pay, rights to access an industrial tribunal, are all repealed.

    A brave new world. No wonder there are detailed contingency plans fo4 5he deployment of troops across Scotland to support police should our post December EU exit Onassis any problems.

    Ah the beasts of Scotland. Forgive them for they know nor what the accept.

  39. Petra says:

    Aye right enough.

    ‘Indyref2 is ‘not imminent’, Scottish Government tells Section 30 case.’



    I see that Simon Case has been appointed as Cabinet Secretary and Head of the Civil Service following Sir Mark Sedwill ”standing down”.


    His thesis entitled ‘The Joint Intelligence Committee and the German Question, 1947–61.’


    • Dr Jim says:

      I think there’s some misunderstanding of the definition of the word imminent going on, plus the Scottish government were I believe right to keep themselves distant from this case

      Imminent (about to happen) (impending) (at hand) Considering the next election is nine months away not even that could be called imminent, so references to an Independence referendum not being imminent would be correct as there’s not likely going to be one before that election

      Then again I’m not a flying psychic who redefines the meanings of the dictionary definitions of words

  40. Dr Jim says:

    So immediately following me saying an Independence referendum is not imminent the FM announces that legislation to make a referendum imminent is happening now

    Just shows to go you eh and unhappiness all around for the Unionists and psychics and their buddies

  41. kevinashton says:

    Regardless of the outcome of whether Scotland stays in the union, we all need to support UK farmers and fight to keep the high food standards we have enjoyed whilst in the EU.

    I’m a chef and food writer and here is a link to my recent post urging people to fight back and explaining what is at stake.

    Tories don’t get into politics to serve the people; they do it to serve themselves.
    This fight is not just about Chlorinated Chicken (as bad as that is it is) this fight is also about keeping Genetically Modified foods out of all parts of the UK. Scotland will not be immune to GMOs if they are allowed to grow in England, Hadrian’s Wall is not capable of bio defense, and just ask Canada about problems from GMOs blowing across their border.

    For anyone who doubts the dangers of Genetically Modified Foods, I recommend they read Seeds of Deception and Genetic Roulette by Jeffrey M.Smith, both books are backed up with science not speculation.

    Please read my post and sign all of the petitions, if everyone stands together we might have a chance to stop the Tories. In numerous surveys, 72% of people in the UK have said they will not buy GM food from UK supermarkets. The UK has an adult population of 53 million but so far only a fraction of that about 2.5 million have signed the 5 petitions. The Tories are banking on the fact that Britain today is more divided than it has been for 50 years to push changes through that they will profit from.

    It doesn’t matter whether you are from Scotland, England, Wales or Northern Ireland, this will affect all of us. Neither does it matter whether you eat meat, or are a vegetarian, vegan or pescatarian, this will affect all of us!

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