The undead Brexit stumbles on

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When Theresa May finally shuffles off this mortal coil, the autopsy will find “nothing has changed, nothing has changed” engraved upon her heart. Although it will have to be in tiny, tiny, writing. Today in Parliament however, the Prime Minister was trying to persuade MPs that everything had changed, when in fact all that had happened was a cosmetic exercise in trying to bring the Brextremists of the European Research Group and the DUP on board. It was a bit like trying to placate a ravenous zombie by offering to allow it to look at a photo of some gammon.

The writing was on the wall as soon as Geoffrey Cox’s legal opinion was published. Geoffrey’s codpiece was as empty as the intellectual and moral vacuum at the heart of his party. The legal risk of being stuck in the backstop remains unchanged, he said. And with those words any chance of the deal passing died. As he continued to elaborate his reasons to the House of Commons, the Attorney General did his 1950s Shakespearean actor schtick and said, or more exactly orated, “Let’s be clear a sovereign state has a right to withdraw if a treaty is no longer compatible with its fundamental interests.” He wasn’t happy with the new guarantees that Theresa May had managed to negotiate because this condition still hasn’t been met, and that in his view was intolerable. The UK operates within a universe in which there can be no constraints upon the UK, that’s precisely what makes it such an unreliable and untrustworthy negotiating partner, that’s what is destroying what is left of the UK’s international standing. That’s what is turning the UK into a joke.

A sovereign state that has no right to withdraw if a treaty is no longer compatible with its needs is exactly the position that Scotland is in within this so-called union, trapped by the veto of Theresa May and seemingly unable to withdraw even though the Treaty of Union is no longer compatible with Scotland’s fundamental interests. It’s because of that treaty that Scotland is getting dragged out of the EU even though that is not the will of the people of Scotland and it will risk immense damage to Scotland’s economy and economic prospects. Geoffrey doesn’t seem to have a problem with that, even though the House of Commons has backed the Scottish Claim of Right that states that the people of Scotland have the sovereign right to choose the form of government best suited to their needs. Brexit has done precisely the square root of hee-haw to boost the international standing of the UK, but it has if nothing else provided Scottish independence campaigners with a rich fund of quotes to throw back in the faces of the British government during the next Scottish independence referendum. Geoffrey’s just given us another.

The rejection of this Brexit deal was always entirely predictable. When the Prime Minister’s deal was rejected by 230 votes a few short weeks ago that seem like an eternity, the EU was clear that it wasn’t in the mood to renegotiate anything even though it was willing to dress up the existing deal in a prettier bow. And so it has come to pass. The only thing that the UK has negotiated is its own irrelevance and has used up the precious last few reserves of patience left in the rest of the EU.

All day on the telly, the news cameras were focussed on the chamber of the House of Commons. We got to hear from a very hoarse sounding Theresa May, her breaking voice a metaphor for her deal, cracked and lacking support. She told MPs that if her deal was voted down again then Brexit could be lost. She said that like it was a bad thing. She delivered her speech before half empty Conservative benches. Not even her own party is listening to her any more.

Theresa also warned the House that a no deal Brexit meant that support for Irish unification and Scottish independence would increase. And it’s true, a no deal Brexit would indeed, according to opinion polls, increase support for Scottish independence, but those same opinion polls also show that Theresa May’s Brexit deal would also have the effect of increasing support for independence. Theresa forgot to mention that bit to the House of Commons. She’s very good at ignoring things. But what she can’t ignore forever is that the British state can have Theresa’s precious union, or it can have Brexit, but it can’t have both.

We got to hear Jeremy Corbyn’s response. We got to hear from assorted leavers and remainers and the inevitable Jacob Rees Mogg doing his very best impression of a funeral director at a birthday party. During Joanna Cherry’s intervention you might even have heard the Scottish Tory MP Luke Graham yell out that Scotland isn’t a country. According to the SNP’s Gavin Newlands, several of his colleagues heard Luke shout out that Scotland is “only a principality”. It’s a shockingly ignorant statement from a shockingly ignorant party. Luke’s ignorance is matched only by his shamelessness. You might think that a Scottish Tory MP would have grasped the difference between Scotland and Wales, but apparently not.

What you wouldn’t have heard on our so-called national broadcaster was the response of the third largest party in the Commons representing the largest single bloc of opinion in Scotland. Yet again on a vital day in the British parliament, the BBC didn’t broadcast the response by SNP leader Ian Blackford to Theresa May’s latest attempt to ram her already rejected deal through the Commons. There’s more than one institution of the British state which is letting Scotland down, it’s systemic across the board. And that in a nutshell, is precisely the nature of the problem.

As everyone was expecting, the deal was defeated by a large margin. By 391 votes to 242, MPs down the deal. The deal was defeated by 149 votes, another massive vote of no confidence in the government’s core policy.

In the aftermath of the defeat, Jeremy Corbyn called on the House to get behind Labour’s version of Brexit. No mention of another referendum. Jeremy’s wasting everyone’s time every bit as much as Theresa May is.

All the time wasting, all the running down the clock, all the brinksmanship, it was all for nothing. The deal is as dead as Theresa May’s political reputation. Tomorrow the House votes on whether to leave with no deal. The Prime Minister has confirmed that she will allow a free vote. However the motion that the government wants to put forward suggests that even if the House votes to reject no deal, no deal is still going to happen. The undead Brexit stumbles on, but Theresa May’s authority is dead and her government is hanging by a thread.

 


 

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34 comments on “The undead Brexit stumbles on

  1. […] Wee Ginger Dug The undead Brexit stumbles on When Theresa May finally shuffles off this mortal coil, the autopsy will find […]

  2. Anne Martin says:

    How on earth is it possible for a PM to be completely trounced not once, but twice, without there having to be a General Election?

  3. Welsh Sion says:

    Good article as usual – as we have come to expect from WGD.

    But, please. We in Cymru are NOT a principality and have not been since 1535 (Annexation by England), reinforced by the Welsh Language Acts of 1967 (England not to include Wales in Westminster legislation) and 1993 (Annulling the Laws in wales Acts/”Acts of Union” of the 16th century).

    The clues are also in the names – A National Assembly, a member of the 6 nations who defeated Scotland at rugby at Murrayfield recently (you wouldn’t have liked to have been humiliated by Monaco or Andorra, would you?), a half decent national football team, a national political Party which supports independence for your country as well as its own and works alongside your National Party, too with common goals, ideas, policies and vision …

    For more info, please read:

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/wales-is-country-not-principality-12589107

    and don’t fall for the usual claptrap presented by our enemies – who are also yours.

    Yours in good faith and a Member of both national [sic.] parties of Cymru and Scotland, I’d expect a little more support from WGD in this.

    Thanks.

    • Phil says:

      Thanks Welsh Sion for the brief heads-up on Wales. In these remote northern wastes we don’t often hear much about the Welsh trajectory through history. Not that much of Scots history truth be told. These past six or ten years are changing that!

      Thanks to The Dug too. I guess it is becoming clearer – the need to trust Nicola and hope her judgement proves right.

      • Welsh Sion says:

        Thank you, too, Phil. You could say that history, politics and language of my country are my speciality. (When ‘m not composing parables and songs for the independence of both our countries …)

        More to follow as and when or on request from yourself (and others. (Follow the link on my name if you wish …)

    • Andy Anderson says:

      Thank you Welsh Sion.

      At school we did British (English) history. Over the last 25 years I have been reading about Scottish history. What book do you recommend me read to get a good overview of your history?

      • Welsh Sion says:

        Andy: Here’s the best one volume history of my country so far. Translated from his own Welsh original by the late, great Dr John Davies (Welsh equivalent of Tom Devine, I’d say and also a Plaid Member – but he writes clearly and with scientific objectivity).

        And with WGD’s permission, I’d also plug you my own book as a collection of political fables for independence (written in English, Scots and Cymraeg).

        Note of course that since publication a lot of things have happened – indeed, we all know by now “a day is a long time in (British) politics” … but please feel free to ask for supplementary info from me and my fellow Welsh posters on here.

        I’m sure you know however of the Welsh link to Southern Scotland and “the Old North”). Failing that, buy this book, ask questions and be sure to relate to me, Macrontix (sorry if I got you’re name wrong, pal – I’m doing it from memory) and any other genuine Welsh patriot/nationalist on here.

        To you all, I offer hugs and commiserations for the rugby, tho … 🙂

        References

        Book history of Wales:

        Welsh Sion’s book:

    • Iain says:

      Thanks to the propaganda unit and education system in our precious union, I know next to nothing about Wales. I’m not proud of that. Do Welsh people hear much of what’s going on in Scotland, because we hear nothing about Wales?

      • Welsh Sion says:

        Iain: We rarely know what is happening in Scotland coz, no matter how much you (justifiably) decry the mainstream media in Scotland, we have nothing comparable in Cymru. Ditto for things like “the Scottish Nine” – Where’s “the Welsh Nine”? Again, I repeat, there is no real national newspapers in Cymru – most information churned out is the English (ex-)Fleet Street variety with no real mention of my country and most definitely no “Wales-only editions”. (A short-lived Welsh Mirror” appeared 2002-2003, but its purpose was to shore up “Welsh” [sic] Labour support post the 1999 Plaid Cymru surge in the first ever National Assembly elections. Once that job was done (through demonising everything Welsh: us Nats, the Eisteddfod, the language etc.) the paper … ahem … folded.

        Yes, we do have a stronger Welsh language media than our cousins the Gaels (think S4C, BBC Radio Cymru 1 and 2 and various other journals/magazines) but in reality most of these tend to be mouthpieces for Yoon propaganda or they try to be … ahem … impartial. What this amounts to of course is very little pro-Cymru news in either language. You’re better off looking for info from Plaid Cymru on their own site. (Please join – you can be a Member of SNP and PC like me with no problem) and a few other websites of citizen journalists. YES Cymru is modelled on YES in Scotland – but how much do you hear about them?

        I will endeavour to keep you inform of events in my homeland (altho. I live as an exile from it at the moment – I’m doing missionary work here in Middle England.) My particular strong points are politics (obvs.), history, language, literature and law. I also work as a professional linguist.

        • deelsdugs says:

          Hi Welsh Sion

          On my travels through Wales to head to Builith – dog show stuff – and meeting people who live there, it seems to me it’s commutersville for the middle of the south. Damn shame. Also know some Welsh folks near Wrexham went down the UKIP route. Damn shame too. And like many other Scots and Welsh, the education system really failed us with history, but I’m now a third year student with the UHI studying Culture and Heritage and only last year did I find out with our Languages on the Edge module that Welsh speaking kids had to wear the ‘triangle of shame’ if they spoke Welsh in school. And of course we Scots were made to feel embarrassed about how we spoke at school in the 60s and 70s. We were also at the the receiving end of the belt, the ruler, the slap if we dared to be remotely localised with our accents.

          • Welsh Sion says:

            Hi deelsdug,

            Not sure what you mean by ‘triangle of shame’ (although I’m guessing it could be a translation from Gaelic.)

            Indeed, all Celtic peoples seem to have suffered the indignity of being shamed and punished for speaking their native (and often only) tongue in English and French dominated classrooms from the Victorian period to at least the 1950s. It was often quite literally beaten out of them.

            See also:

            http://www.bbc.co.uk/ahistoryoftheworld/objects/j35VCjYcS0CC3RGzvkLb-Q

            [Apologies for a BBC link]

            and

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treachery_of_the_Blue_Books

            [Apologies for a Wiki link – but it’s a useful starting off point]

            • deelsdugs says:

              Welsh Sion, sorry not looked at the links and I can’t do any bbc stuff…but, from the video (which was most likely a bbc thing) we watched in class, the ‘triangle of shame’ was a wooden triangle placed over the young child’s head, to wear around their neck, as a symbol of shame for speaking Welsh, and not ‘queenie’s english’. Hellish.
              And yes, Scotland was along the same lines, especially in the Highlands.

              • Welsh Sion says:

                Catching up with you, deelsdug.

                Use Professor Google for “Welsh Not” then if you prefer. I don’t see what you mean by ‘triangle of shame.’ I’m presuming this was the weapon (in the linguicide war) of choice of the anglicising authorities in Gaelic Scotland. It was certainly not referred to as such (in Welsh or in English) as the instrument used in Cymru.

                Yours,

  4. PaulS says:

    If I want to see what is going on in the House of Commons, I watch the Parliament channel, and avoid having to listen to pundits!

  5. Macart says:

    Not a sausage from any of the channels on the SNP response when I was watching. I clocked Ian Blackford’s speech on parliamentary link and I’m fairly certain he left the chamber in no doubts. The usual hooting and braying from the hard of thinking rank and file right enough, but were I them? I’d take the fella’s words of warning seriously.

    The metro bubble especially on the main channels however… Oh Jings! The lack of self awareness and humility from the pundits and the presenters was truly woeful.

    Their choice. 😎

  6. Welsh Sion says:

    From one of my bosses on Twitter:

    Adam Price

    @Adamprice
    ·
    1hr ago

    In better times, both the Prime Minister and the Leader of the Opposition would be resigning tonight. May for a second crushing defeat. Corbyn for choosing a red Brexit deal over a dead Brexit deal, ignoring his own party’s policy of a People’s Vote. Westminster at its worst.

    ________

    Sums it up perfectly. Nail on the head, Adam

  7. Ach well. Surely the decline in the margin of defeat is cause for hope. All she needs to do is kick the can down the road for a few weeks more and it will have declined further. But she’s not looking well at all. Poor thing needs a good night’s sleep at the very least. I find it difficult now not to feel sorry for her – just as I would any human being in such a condition of despair and delusion. She was always in the job because nobody else wanted it. Now we know why.

    • Kenzie says:

      I don’t think so Duncan. She desperately did want the job, especially the trappings of power that went with it. It is my contention that she suffers from delusions of adequacy. The fact that her old man got exceedingly rich as well, well, that was just a bonus. :-))

      • I am sure the demented harpie was very very keen to get the job after all those years at the Home Office preparing the ground and giving hubby the chance to get his investments right. Not many of the Tory chaps seemed terribly interested either. Poor thing. It’s turned out to be a bit more complex and draining than she expected, but when she retires she will have a nice pension no matter what history makes of her ignominious reign.

    • deelsdugs says:

      Oh Duncan, like Kenzie, I agree…she wanted that job and goodness knows what she’s guarding behind the No.10 door cause she ain’t gonnae give it up in a hurry…

      • I don’t disagree. She had an easy run at the leadership race. I’m sure the Grandees would have made it a great deal more difficult if they had wanted somebody else in the post.

  8. Paul Lynam says:

    We in Ireland are really feeling your pain how can 17.4 million people decide to hold the whole of the EU to ransom and also threaten the peace and integrity of our small island all for some fundamentalist row in the Tory party. How is that democracy.

    • Welsh Sion says:

      Paul Lynam,

      Surely you mean:

      “We in Ireland are really feeling your pain how can TEN people (aka Arlene’s mob) decide to hold the whole of the EU to ransom and also threaten the peace and integrity of our small island all for some fundamentalist row in the Tory party. How is that democracy?”

      • Paul Lynam says:

        No I don’t mean that. If I had meant that I would have said that. What I don’t understand is why you had a referendum that has no legal standing in law. That was your first mistake. The second one was because it has no legal standing the courts can’t do anything about the lies and fraud of the Out campaign. And lastly that your parliament has no interest in leaving. What the fuck is that

  9. Dave tewart says:

    I understand there are 65 million persons who inhabit these islands.
    !7 million voted to leave the Eu, 17 million voted to stay in the EU and I gather 17 million didn’t bother to vote. The balance I suppose were either below the age to vote or were still on the register of voters although unable to through illness , death or out the country.
    Listen to the intervention to Ms Cherry on parliament TV, a labour MP playing with the Scottish results percentages by referring to the low turn out and saying it wasn’t 62% to remain, he just threw in the non turn outs to reduce the majority, bet he didn’t use the arguament in his election figures.
    The english parliament is bust and is an affront to democracy, winner takes all, the tory party candidates got around 37% of votes cast, they won a majority win, go figure.
    The MPs act like animals in a theatre that is meant to be a careful considered discussion location, instead they act like unruly children. Even Cox turned on the political animal instinct at times and didn’t answer a direct question, the questioner wasn’t allowed to ask again, squrrel and move on.
    It’s a joker’s paridise that we pay for, not worth the money, they only turn up for 30 or so weeks out of 52 in the year and they’re on the gold and platinum pension.
    Roll on our independence.

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  11. Wullie says:

    How are Scotlands legal eagles defending our place within the treaty of union. I have not heard a peep

  12. Graeme Timoney says:

    R T (Russia Today) giving full coverage of the debate yesterday. ( Find them on You Tube) It says a lot about the state of the UK’s media when Russian T.V. coverage is more reliable and more honest than the BBC.

  13. Welsh Sion says:

    Plaid Cymru amendment to today’s debate:

    Amendment (c) calls for an extension to the Article 50 leaving process to 2021, or until a future relationship is agreed.

    The amendment also requests a second referendum to take place, on whether or not the UK should leave with the agreed deal, or remain in the EU.

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