¡Viva la evolución!

Jack McConnell wants us to vote No in order to preserve “Home Rule”. That would be the home rule that doesn’t give you control over your own home, the home rule that lumbers you with a Trident lodger you can’t evict even though it spews radioactive waste all over your Firth of Clyde patio and pisses plutonium particles in your petunia bed. You still get sent to bed while the grown ups from the EU come to visit, you’re certainly not allowed out on the international stage yourself – they’re keeping your passport.

Scotland still won’t get enough home rule to prevent one fifth of its citizens from living in relative poverty. Supervision isn’t cheap you know, someone’s got to pay. But we have to keep the rich sweet. London needs to be a global city or there’s no home rule for you, and London needs a shiny new train set so the big boys will come to play. You pay trains, they play trains. That’s home rule.

Jack is in favour of the home rule that tells you you don’t control your home’s finances, but you can live on some pocket money while the grown ups in Westminster make all big decisions for you and control all the pursestrings. They’ll decide how much pocket money you’ll get. You don’t rule the earnings of your own labour, Labour does.

You’re allowed to decide what wallpaper you want for your bedroom, but Westminster will keep its paws firmly on the TV remote control. You’re not grown up enough to home rule the telly. And no, you can’t get one for your bedroom. You might break it. You’re too wee, and you’re not responsible enough, not like the grown ups who jealously guard all the power and lecture you on democratic representation from the House of Lords.

They might consent to giving you a loan of a little bit of power. But if you don’t behave, the big boys and girls can take away your home rule privileges whenever they see fit. That’s why they call it devolution, because they see it as the opposite of evolution. Or at least a 19th century understanding of evolution, because that’s about as modern as Westminster science gets.

Westminster sees devolution as a reversal of the onward march to ever more intelligent and civilised life, an unfortunate kink in the chain of being which ends with them and their godlike power. It’s evolution in reverse. In the minds of the Westminster parties, it’s a process which can only start with cavemen and work its way back to primordial slime. But that’s happening to them anyway, they descended into sleaze a very long time ago. If Westminster loses any more of its authority they’re afraid they’ll devolve so much they’ll no longer be capable of tying their own shoe laces. It is a justified fear.

Devolution is a hiccup in the path to progress of an ever more perfect Westminster. They’re still a long way short of that and getting further from it with every passing day without any assistance from Scotland, so you can understand why they’re not so keen to give any of their authority away to uppity Caledonians with the notion that they can do the job better by themselves. Face it, it would be harder to do any worse, we’re talking about a low bar here.

The United Kingdom is one of the least equal countries in the developed world, the inequalities are only getting wider. Low paid jobs on short contracts have become the norm. People in full time paid work still qualify for benefits. Our governments subsidise employers to create jobs which can’t pay a living wage. Trickle down economics, the only trickle is the sweat on the brow of the woman faced with a choice of feeding her kids or switching off the heating in a cold November. And Labour politicians tell us that people need to be motivated to find work by stripping them of what dignity they have left.

The UK is the most centralised state in Europe. Scotland has greater control over her own affairs than other parts of the UK, but devolution gives Holyrood fewer tax raising powers than the average municipality in other countries. Scotland has no control over its own resources, and is the only oil producing country in the world without an oil fund – except Iraq. We get 30 minutes of Jackie Bird, stories about cattle that fell in the watter and had to get shot and a whole load of stuff about people playing games, like Jim Murphy the professional monkey poo thrower. It’s what passes for news in devoland. There’s lots of fitba at the end too for sports fans. Catalonia has a 24 hour news channel and five TV channels of its own. And the Trident lodger is staying put.

The UK has put all its economic eggs into the basket of the global finance centre of London. All else in the UK exists only to serve the goal of global player worldstage strutting. Devolution won’t change any of that.

So Jack McConnell and Jim Murphy had a great idea. Let’s call it home rule instead. Let’s resucitate an old slogan from the dusty shelves of history, because everyone who knew what it meant is deid. Then Jack and Jim can tell us what it means. It’s One Nation Labour’s new trick, reviving slogans from the 19th century. That’s progressive politics Labour style. Scotland can swap its sovereignty for a snappy Victorian soundbite.

But we already know what Jack McConnell’s home rule means, it’s teenage life with a tagging order. There may be a parole hearing, sometime after the next General Election, and they’ll decide whether to allow you a little bit more freedom. But nae promises. Only the Yes campaign is expected to provide certainties. Scotland is on probation until we stop thinking about absconding from the sludge that successive UK governments have created.

It’s for the people of Scotland to decide what we want out of this Union or whether we want out of it. Jack and Jim want us not to think about it, until they can tell us what to think. Further devolution is a conversation we need to have with the whole of the UK, say Jack and Jim. That’s why you can’t have a vote on it. But the real reason is that they don’t want us to state what we want to say before the conversation starts. Then they’d be obliged, and that would never do. You can’t be having power coming from the people. That’s not the devolved way.

We’ve been here before. Not once. Not even twice. We’ve seen this continually over the past 40 years as our faith in the willingness of Westminster parties to devolve has devolved even quicker. We were promised something better in 1979 and got Maggie Thatcher and 18 years of pain. Labour promised a parliament with real tax raising powers so Scotland would never again be dependent on the whims of Westminster. We got a parlie but the tax raising powers were designed to be unusable, and have remained unused. Which proves they’re working. Just not for Scotland. Scotland gets pocket money instead. And a civic civil nationalism that devolution didn’t kill stone dead.

We were promised more powers with Calman, but discovered that a Calman was the name of a fish dish that was gutted, filleted, and had its bones and flesh consumed in Commons committees. Scotland got left with a greased soaked newspaper.

Now we’re told they’ll devolve home rule, which is suitably vague and encompasses everything that it might be fondly imagined to be from Unionists who believe in federalism fairies, to those who want to kill nationalism stone dead. Even Michael Forsyth, once Tory handbagger in chief in Scotland, is keen to offer us new toys. Small toys, not a train set. Perhaps a Kinder surprise egg’s worth of devolution. He’s changed his tune. But we’re assured the conversion is sincere, if unexplained.

It’s too little too late. Scotland’s faith in Westminster’s ability to deliver has devolved into a pool of raw materials awaiting the spark of a Yes vote for it to spring into life.

And something is stirring in the Scottish soup. The amino acids of activism are forming protein chains of ideas. Links are forming, bonds being created. Self sustaining actions and reactions are taking place. People are thinking things they never thought before. Seeing things in new ways. Things like – this isn’t about Alicsammin at all. It’s about me. It’s about my family. It’s about my friends.

We’re too evolved for devolution. We can walk upright. We can think for ourselves. We can evict the Trident lodger, get the TV remote control and decide for ourselves what sort of country we want to live in.

Scotland’s political life is evolving into sentience. People are having intelligent conversations about possibilities and the kind of Scotland that could evolve into being. They’ve already realised that Scotland doesn’t have to live in the slime. It can be a fairer place, a more just place. It can be a place of dignity, where mothers’ brows only sweat with worry because weans are weans and dae schtupit things. But their tea is always on the table, and the hoose is always warm on a cold winter’s night. That’s the kind of country that Scotland can only evolve into with a Yes vote in September.

¡Viva la evolución escocesa!



93 comments on “¡Viva la evolución!

  1. Marian says:

    A tradesman I met the other day put it succinctly when he said he was voting YES because it was unacceptable that anyone should be handing their wages over to their neighbour for their neighbour to decide how much they should get back when their weans had no food or shoes.

  2. macart763 says:

    Too bloody right.

    I take it you clocked that pile of ‘pooh’ in the Guardian about McConnell Paul? I just about choked on my cocoa and hobnobs when I read this quote about three paras in: “It’s time for those of us who played such a big part in creating home rule inside the UK and also making it work to come out fighting for it.”

    ‘Creating home rule’. Yep that’s right he said they’d already created it and here’s me thinking what we had was bargain basement devolution. No, what we had was home rule. Lots of home and precious little fecking rule right enough, but what’s in a word?

    Once again a Labour Lord is attempting to rewrite history. Who needs the doctor or the Tardis when you’ve got Labour spin. Its a well known law of quantum mechanics that time travel is fully possible if your time machine is powered by party political bullshit. I think people need to be fully aware of what we have, what is proposed as an outcome of this referendum and what has been guaranteed. Excuse some cut and paste from a post I left last night:

    Scotland does NOT have home rule. It has a level of ‘gifted’ self governance known as devolution, but by no measure could this be described as home rule. To describe it as such is simply dishonest.

    Nor is this debate about David Cameron or even simply the Tories. Though some would think that reason enough. Its about the Westminster system of governance which includes Labour, Liberal Democrats and every other shade of rosette in between. Its about how that system is being and has been used and abused as part of the treaty of union. Most importantly its about the electorate looking at the question should we and can we replace it with something better? Should Scotland democratically reacquire its full sovereignty and independence?

    That is the subject and question at hand. Anything else is misdirection and campaign politics. I have yet to see any positive case emerge from Westminster in favour of retaining their system of governance, neither meat, nor bones. No policy, no vision, no guarantees. All that is patently on offer is the status quo, nothing more, nothing less and until a cast iron guarantee of some description appears that is all that has been on offer from day one and all that Westminster has guaranteed to deliver.

    Of course the ‘nothing less’ part of my rant over on the Guardian isn’t strictly true either. We’re fully aware of what’s coming post any no vote. Swingeing budget cuts, further welfare reform, the distinct possibility of Barnett being abolished in favour of needs based formula and so much more. The direct result of the budget cuts alone will cause carnage to almost all the gains made under the current SG. Everything from council tax freeze to free education will be under direct and imminent threat. But in terms of direct outcome on Sept 19th a NO vote will deliver precisely NOTHING.

    Now what is absolutely 100% guaranteed with a YES vote: All powers, all decisions, access to all fiscal levers, all resources, a constitution, popular sovereignty, CHOICE. Sorry for the extended post, but McConnell’s patent dishonesty in describing what we have got my back up and getting cocoa stains out of the couch throw is a bastard.

  3. grumpydubai says:

    Your last three paragraphs say it al and must be said to all and sundry until the 18th.

    Well done

  4. innerbearsdenurchin says:


    Home rule. You can’t have a telly of your own.

    You are an allegorical wordsmith.

    Glad you are on our side, the good one.

  5. innerbearsdenurchin says:

    Hey Macart, desist with that sentience.

    You have not been to Eton and Oxford like wot I have.

    Intellectual woad smeared pygmy, be gone.

    David Cameroun.

    • macart763 says:

      There’s a nasty rumour that the Caledonian woad smeared pygmy did for a Roman legion. They’re still lookin’ fer the bits.

      Although to be fair there may have been two of them and the 9th hopelessly outnumbered.😀

      • innerbearsdenurchin says:

        Was it the 9th, 13th or the 14th Legion. It was, I think, the Iberian Legion?

        viva escocia

        • macart763 says:

          Legio Hispana I think. Bit rusty on the old Roman history, but a fair old dose of generals bit the dust over a twenty year period (two or three) trying to keep them rowdy guerrillas in check and something like 15-20k troops over that period. Certainly the loss of the ninth would have been regarded as a bit of a capper. Lots of myths surrounding the ninth, but the most likely is that they did indeed end their days here… there… and maybe some over there.😀

          • innerbearsdenurchin says:

            I have read that the legion revolted and went over to the rebels!

            • macart763 says:

              Bit like what we could do with really.

              We could do with a few MPs and MSPs telling their gaffer to stick it and declare for YES. Y’know actually go with what they know to be right rather than what they’ve been told is right.

              Once that stone’s kicked off the brow of the hill…

              … AVALANCHE.

      • innerbearsdenurchin says:

        I believe that the Legion was expunged from the records, so heinous is a military insurrection.

        • YESGUY says:

          I was attached to the Italian Army in the late 80’s and was told the 9th where lost to the Picts. Since then they don’t number their army units with a nine in them . OUT OF SIGHT OUT OF MIND..

          Don’t really know if it’s true but there you go. I might be a nasty cybernat making it all up.

  6. innerbearsdenurchin says:

    Viva la evolución y hasta la revolución escosesa.

    I am guessing here.

    No habla espagnol.

  7. innerbearsdenurchin says:

    Talking about DC, what is this deflection exercise about antibiotic resistance all about?

    Is it to shut down the JP Juncker fiasco or to hide another bummer about to break which needs to be minimised?

    Anybody any ideas?

  8. diabloandco says:

    Hey! Two for the price of one there – thanks guys!

  9. Tells you all you need to go about our current situation when having the security for a ma to feed and heat her weans is a radical aspiration. Hearing conversations in Carlisle and hearing those we have in Scotland today only underlines the way Scotland has grown in my absence. With my own folk now, I have grown up conversations about the world.
    Down here I increasingly feel like I’ve utterly outgrown the place.
    Desperate to get back, even if only as far as Moffat or Lochmaben!

  10. dennis mclaughlin says:

    That wee wummin & her starving weans arnae worried about a bloody lost Italian regiment people, she’s doing her best to survive in IDS Land.
    Get a grip you lot of pseudo intellectual facts and look beyond your own front gardens fur a change.
    You make me boak.

  11. Helena Brown says:

    Will that be the Jack McConnell who paid for his Knighthood with our money, who spent the first 8 years of our Parliament looking round Scotland for something to spend the money on and decided, no things were just fine and sent the Billions back to Westminster. That will be the same Jack McConnell whilst First Minister that was such a nonentity within his own Party that one of their own called him Jock McDonald, aye I am going to listen to all the words he says. Aye right.
    You did it better Paul, a proper demolition of Devolution. As has been said “No man shall set the boundary of a Nation, thus far and no further”. Parnell, Ireland, still relevant today in 21st Century Scotland. Apologies if misquoted, best I can remember and no time presently to check.

  12. Iain says:

    It is funny that once you have your eyes opened you wonder how anybody could take such unionist dribble seriously. Follows the usual path, full of sound bites but seriously lacking in detail, ironically displaying the vary features that the No side use (unfairly) as a stick to beat the Yes campaign with.

    Still there is an important point here that we would all well to pay attention to. This message is directed at the undecided. I had experience of this the other day in a rather heated family debate on the referendum. My brother in law is a soft no, he has no great love of the Union but has been sold lock stock and barrel on the idea that Scotland is not capable of standing on its own two feet. He told me that this decision is just ‘too important’ and there is ‘not enough information’, in his view the only solution is for the ‘three proper parties’ to sit down together and agree the best way forward. Despite pointing out the obvious to him that they had had the chance to do that already and had refused and giving real life examples (wife works with Scottish Govt on renewables and has had experience of UK Govt) that they are not interested in us and will not give anything if we give away our trump card, he was having none of it. Very frustrating when people are presented with the facts but still refuse to accept them. Theses messages being passed out are for people like my brother in law, it is all part of the Project Fear agenda. Sadly it works and my biggest fear is that we do not have enough time to counter it.

    Still where there is light there is no hope, it could be the case that my brother in law needed to hear another view point and that might just make him think a little.

    • Helena Brown says:

      Seems Ian that your Brother in Law is getting all his information via the MSM, I have heard both phrases elsewhere usually from people being interviewed on the Beeb. If he were interested he would look for more information but lets face it he seems to be happy with what he has. Some will not be converted, but I bet once the deed is done, he will just get on, or he will be the first greetin faced one you meet saying “What have WE done”, then you can remind him he done it. Sorry I have no advice, I lack the patience to deal with them.

  13. dennis mclaughlin says:

    Try and offer him some cocoa & hob – nobs next time😦

    • innerbearsdenurchin says:

      Dennis, I have been waiting to see what you would do after your first two posts and now you have shown your hand.

      The first two post had anger in them but to attack people on this blog, remember we are on your side, is counterproductive. Personal attacks are used often to try to disrupt threads.

      Being angry is OK but it has to be directed at the people who are making you angry, IDS and company.

      Don’t get angry, get even. That is what the referendum ballot is all about, righting the wrong.

      If you don’t see that you are misguided and if there is a No vote, futile. Concentrate on that target, not your own side. Unless your own side is not ours?

      • Absolutely ibu. What I have found on my way around the doors is that the, few, definite No’s I have encountered seem angry, at what I don’t know, unless it’s because they know they are going to lose, whereas the yesess are generally very pleasant. This isn’t being written wearing rose tinted specs, it’s just they way it is.

        • Eilean says:

          Same here. When out leafleting it is guaranteed that you will get at least one per week. Bizarrely I have noticed that some of the worst offenders are old men on mobility scooters. These guys can spew some amount of vitriol. Go figure!

        • blindingmemory says:

          Might be relevant here, that most of the No voters I know/have spoken to have given the reason for their decision that they don’t like something/someone from the Yes campaign, and that they’re basically just voting against Yes. What these type of No voters need to realise is that come 18th Sept, they’ll be faced with the choice of voting FOR one of two options.

          Therefore, the only reason anyone should be voting No is if they are genuinely content with the way things are currently going (declining rapidly, for most), and think that ‘UK politics’ is working for this country. Or if they’ve bought into the horror stories about being stronger financially, etc etc…

          Post-Yes, if most people in Scotland agree that we should have nuclear weapons (unlikely), then we will have more of a say about it, instead of politicians making all the decisions and foisting it upon us. I heard someone say “the best type of governance comes when the pubic can throw stones [surely metaphorical] at the government when they disagree. The problem is that Westminster just that wee bit too far away for them to feel it”.

        • Hugh Wallace says:

          It is called ‘fear’ Alex, that’s why they are angry. Scared people lash out at all and sundry. Quite what they are so scared about regarding independence I don’t know but I view it as symptomatic of some Scot’s views of themselves that they really are ‘too wee, too poor and too stupid’. It is one of my biggest reasons for us all voting yes; face your fears and live and bigger and fuller life all round!

    • YESGUY says:

      OUCH again

      You canny help yourself can you.

      We are supposed to be on the same side Dennis.

      Maybe a cocoa and hobnob and 5 mins to cool down eh?

  14. arthur thomson says:

    As always the words of the dug set me thinking. How do we deal effectively with the utter cynicism of McConnell and his very nasty friends? What keeps going through my mind is that he cares not at all about the povery and desperation that ordinary people are experiencing. He knows too that there are many Scots who are looking for excuses to justify their lack of care and he wants to provide the balm to soothe their lack of conscience. I think the case for independence has been made and those who claim a lack of information are being disingenuous. I feel that it is time to say to soft no’s and don’t knows that they know the facts and what they do with them is their responsibility. The yes campaign should become a celebration of our belief that Scotland lives, that it can have a better future and that we are going to expose the cynical, the complacent, the uncaring and the disingenuous for what they really are. Some people won’t like it but their pain will be nothing compared to the pain of knowing that, whatever you try to do, you can’t give your children a decent standard of living. Nor will it remotely compare to the anguish of Iraqi parents seeing their children terrified, maimed and in many cases killed by proud Brits. We need to put the challenge to the people. The facts are there – face up to them.

    Your thoughts please?

    • YESGUY says:

      Here here Arthur.

      I have heard a few NO voters say “i don’t have enough info” and am staggered by their inability to look things up for themselves. Even when shown facts the look of doubt or suspicion is plain to see. I don’t argue anymore because it’s pointless. They can say “AYE ” and then on the day will vote NO and as i don’t get to check what they say in the ballot box it’s all down to their own belief.

      I think there is a lack of confidence in Scotland over our own affairs. They may be unsure or scared off by Project fear , but so many just see change as a bad thing. I think we are more conservative in our ways than we care to admit. It’s such a shame. We (Scots) have made a huge contribution to the modern world and have much to be proud of. We have grown and now see our time standing on our own two feet as an independent country as a right and as a next step in our history.

      Look around the world , alliances change with the times and we can change too. It just take a wee bit courage. Something we have in spades when abroad but sadly lacking at home.

      I don’t doubt the union has had positive effects on us , i personally think we can do better as an iScotland. The world has changed except here. If we vote YES , it will be scarey and there are many unknowns, But if we didn’t take a chance or two we;d be living with our parents , getting pocket money and having Mum or Dad making all our decisions for us.

      I left home at 16 , Joined up and made a life for myself and my family. I shared this with my parents but I made the decisions effecting me.

      Now it is Scotlands turn to stand on it’s own two feet. And i believe absolutely that we will succeed .

      Our time is now.

      • Eilean says:

        “I dont have enough info” is not a reason to vote No it is an excuse!

        • JGedd says:

          One classic response I had on this theme while canvassing was that they were undecided ” because there isn’t enough information.” I replied, ” Well I’ve got a lot of info right here. Lots of leaflets and pamphlets. Will I give you these? They might help you decide…” With a hunted look around, ” Eh, no. I wouldn’t read those. I’ll just get it from the TV and papers.”
          The door was hurriedly shut before I got to say the obvious. Sometimes an ‘undecided’ is actually a No voter.

    • weegingerdug says:

      There was an interesting editorial on Bella the other day, saying that the Yes campaign needs to stop being so reactive to the negativity of the No campaign. We should stop responding to every slur and smear and instead be making the positive case for a new and better Scotland. Less monkey poo, more flowers.

      • Blizzard says:

        We are making the positive case all the time, however, just spent one hour with a previously undecided, now YES, voter who attended one of the “Just say Naw” events run by someone whose name I can’t quite remember (my senior moment, but his was something to do with a cat and Rula Lenska). Many of my contact’s friends (early thirties age group) are taken in by the rhetoric and he wants to counter it. Needless to say I gave him plenty to think about and say.

        I think that it is disingenuous to think that the YES campaign is actually countering the slurs and smears. Yes, we can ignore many of them, but to those outside the YES bubble, failure to respond is frequently interpreted as inability to respond (i.e. YES has no answer). As I have said, on a Bella thread incidentally, being positive does not mean ignoring some of the more damaging distortions and outright lies, but does mean responding with evidence-based, assertive points. N.B. this is not being aggressive or rude, but matter-of-fact, and of course always ending with the positive case.

        I in fact would like to see the “YES” campaign indulging in many more robust and assertive responses. It does, however, take a detailed knowledge to provide specific responses rather than descending to “He says, she says” which is what Better Together?No Thanks, would love, because arguing from opinion would effectively undermine the evidence-based YES case.

  15. rosa alba says:

    ¡No tanto evolución como revolución! – Movement of Yes People. http://rosaalba.wordpress.com/2014/07/02/engaged-to-dance-abstinence-no-say-yes/

  16. Mary Docherty says:

    [I’ve edited this Mary. When your comment appeared it was just a date line and your email address. Not sure you wanted to publish that. I think something went wrong with your post. Paul]

  17. faolie says:

    See that the dug mentioned Forsyth. He must have seen him on Scotland 2014 the other night (so that you didn’t have to Paul) debating with Jim Sillars in front of a audience of teenagers. And as I sat, I wondered what they thought of his answers to their questions and points? Seemed to me that they were the worst kind of Tory-knows-best, patronising, fear-mongering soundbites I’ve heard since the last time I heard Alistair Darling.

    But as I sat shouting at the telly, I tried to put myself in the teenagers’ shoes and thought that actually all I heard was, ‘too hard, too dangerous, too much uncertainty, the bestest union ever, be afraid if you vote yes’, etc etc ad nauseum.

    And I thought if I was a teenager hearing some git I’ve never heard of talking to me like that, I’d think fuck you grandad, I’m voting Yes.

    I’ve had bet my telly that there was a Yes majority, but of course Glenn Campbell didn’t take a vote.

  18. Another great piece, Paul. What is on offer is nowhere near home rule, but as usual they hope we can be conned.

    Last night I was at the Yestival in Melrose, apprehensive lest the turnout was not great in an area of mainly Nos. But first good sign was additional rows of seating having to be brought out.

    What a great evening of enthusiasm, friendship, hope, confidence and joy at being in Scotland at this time. Not everything went totally to plan, the sound system caused a few minor problems, but that’s what independence will be like. As someone said, we keep trying and things will improve. And a few hiccups certainly didn’t spoil the evening.

    A large thank you to National Collective for bringing so many young folk together on this tour with film, poetry and music, Dick Gaughan and Zara Gladman (I’m votin’ No). The final act with a stage full of people from different backgrounds, different ages and different countries singing the anthem for a better nation was a fitting end to a wonderful evening. And the Yestival t-shirts were going like hot cakes.

    Go if you can and it comes to a venue near you.

  19. Mouchan says:

    As usual, bang on the money. Well said Paul.

  20. rab_the_doubter says:

    I’ve got a horrible feeling that if it’s a No, Scotland will be sitting on the ‘Naughty Step’ for a long long time.

    • YESGUY says:

      Thats ok Rab

      It will be a big step and most of us will be sitting with you.

      You will not be alone.

      • weegingerdug says:

        I’ve been on the naughty step all my life. But it will be great to have such wonderful company. Here’s a wee image I was saving for a future blog post – think of the indy movement as the tides. The tide goes out, the tide comes in. Every time the tide comes in it’s higher, and it washes away more of the foundations of Westminster’s sandcastle. The tide is coming in on 18 September, and it will be a high tide.

        Maybe it won’t be quite high enough, I hope it will – but the clean waters of independent thought have already washed away most of the foundations of Westminster’s rule over Scotland, it’s scouring the beaches clean of the waste and pollution of Thatcherism, New Labour, Trident and the hypocrisy and cant of the Unionist parties.

        If we don’t win, and are facing the retreat of the waters on 19 September – the tide will still return. And it will be even higher next time. Scotland will be independent one day. It’s in the tides.

        • Thepnr says:

          Paul you have such a way with words, it will be hard to fill your boots as a guest poster. Your doing a great job and with the talent we have I just know we will be a successful Nation.

        • Helena Brown says:

          That is always the way I have seen it Paul, the SNP were nearly broken in the 80’s after the 79 devolution debacle. Like the tide, support returned and it brought more water if you like, and so it has continued. This time though I will not be here to see the return if it takes too long. I doubt I shall stay in Scotland though it will break my heart. This time make it right, do you think we can?

          • innerbearsdenurchin says:

            Me too Helena

          • macart763 says:

            I’m in it for the long haul.🙂

            • Helena Brown says:

              Getting on Mac, don’t think I can possibly stay and suffer the ridicule even though we should not get it, this should in reality be given to those who had not courage and voted NO.

              • macart763 says:

                I’m both potless and on the wrong side of fifty. Choices limited for me.😀

                Last year if you’d asked me your question I’d have said it was looking grim. Today? Honestly? I’d say its too close to call, that’s how much ground has been made up and if we keep up a head of steam I’d say its even beginning to look good.

                What has been absolutely achieved is an awakening in the public. We’re engaged in a fashion I haven’t seen for some time with our politics and that engagement has the politicians nervous. For that alone the SG should receive major kudos. FWIW I think we can do this, but we need to stay calm and stay positive.

        • Illy says:

          Oh dear, now you’ve reminded me of dear old Emperor Cnut.

          Did a quick Image search for “cnut and the tide” and guess what I found a little down the page: A pic of Cameron at the beach, off the *Daily Mail* website! of all places.

          Not that there’s much comparison, Cnut was teaching his sycophants a lesson about the limits of his power, Cameron seems to believe his sycophants.

          • Illy says:

            And I just looked up the story, and according to wikipedia, some people think that it happened at *Westminster*!

            Oh dear…

        • innerbearsdenurchin says:

          Paul, I see it more as a chance to clear the Augean stablesl

  21. smiling vulture says:

    labour are trying to put devolution in some dark hole where gravity prevents it from escaping,the new phrase home rule(actualy about 100 years old)

    jim murphy guardian

    Murphy also talks about Scotland having a home rule parliament, “which we’re going to get no matter who wins the next election”. He acknowledges later that “home rule is a much more powerful phrase than devolution”.

    • Illy says:

      “Home Rule”, ie, ruled from home, would imply that Scotland ruled itself, ie: Independence.

      I think they’re getting very much into “Ministry of Peace” doubletalk here.

  22. Steven Allan says:

    Here is a braw video-clip outlining the “Democratic Process” and it’s “Evolution” to what we have today – hope you find it informative folks – Great work btw https://t.co/ju44m0LEjj

  23. innerbearsdenurchin says:

    Semantics and buzzwording.

    • YESGUY says:

      Aye got that too

      Too “Americanised” for me . Always looking for a catchphrase . I like to think we’re different and tend to take their slogans and turn them around , the NO Thanks is one. It’s a beauty . We could have had that one for ourselves. but know we played the long game and got the own goal.

      I have no time for Labour or ANY of the party members. They are now the tory puppets and will never be forgiven.

  24. Abulhaq says:

    Home Rule….are we treading in the foot-steps of Ireland? With all that that might entail? Not a term those with any sense of history would use, or indeed those whose political and cultural tastes go beyond the insipid.

  25. Steve Asaneilean says:

    I don’t understand the “I don’t have enough information” stance. It’s like saying “I’m not getting up this morning because I don’t have enough information on what today has in store for me or how it might unfold”. By this logic you don’t have enough information to vote No either!

    But that’s not what this is about. It’s about one thing and one thing only for now – how we are governed. Everything else comes afterwards.

    If we vote No we are left with a parliament in London in which by definition the Scottish electorate can never have more than 10% of the say. This parliament will then decide what powers they think Scotland should and should not have – that’s not for the people of Scotland to decide you understand – we’re too poor, too small, too stupid, etc.

    But ask yourself this – if some (as yet unknown) powers are good for Scotland why not all powers? Why not have a parliament in which the Scottish electorate have 100% of the say deciding what’s best for Scotland?

    So this vote is about governance. Should we govern ourselves or have governance done to us? I know which I prefer.

    And the bottom line is that even if it’s No in September there has been, to extend your metaphor a little Paul, a sea change. Of course I may be as mad as a sack-full of ferrets with shingles but I’d “rather have hope than sadness” and the prospect of more of the same and feeling powerless to change it and possibly having no political party left that I feel I can vote for makes me really sad.

    But us Yes folk are not going to go away and the demand for change will just continue to grow – in or out of the Union. I have fought all my adult life for equality and egality; for respect and honesty; for truthfulness and openness. I doubt I am going to change because one vote doesn’t go the way I wanted it to!

  26. Capella says:

    “Home Rule” is a meaningless phrase, or at least. everyone can give it whatever meaning they like. It’s a form of mass hypnosis used in PR and advertising. Whenever a politician turns a verb into a noun look out. They’re lulling you into a condition of belief. “Peace process”, “devolution”, “financial stability”, globalisation” etc are equally content free.
    But “We in Scotland prefer to rule ourselves”, is much clearer!
    Great post- and comments. The fact that Labour has suddenly started to push Home Rule shows that Devo Max hasn’t worked.

    • “The point of public relations slogans like “Support our troops” is that they don’t mean anything… That’s the whole point of good propaganda.You want to create a slogan that nobody’s going to be against, and everybody’s going to be for.Nobody knows what it means, because it doesn’t mean anything.Its crucial value is that it diverts your attention from a question that does mean something: Do you support our policy? That’s the one you’re not allowed to talk about.”

      Noam Chomsky

  27. Dinna_fash says:

    There’s 80,000 old mannies zooping about Scotland on mobility scooters. If all these mobile NOes manage to get out to vote in Setember (highly likely as they have transport) they could have a significant impact on the outcome of the eferendum.

    A powercut on the 17th would suffice.

    • YESGUY says:

      Bloody screen covered in tea AGAIN Dinna,

      I was engrossed with the comments and never saw your one coming. Can just read the Daily Blowhard the next day “Nazi knobble the scooter brigade”

      Love this site Paul. Always have a smile here. Great comments too

      P.S. plenty of banter too over 80 comments already.

      Your famous Paul. That’s 4 x the number of facetube pals i’ve got.

  28. […] Jack McConnell wants us to vote No in order to preserve "Home Rule". That would be the home rule that doesn't give you control over your own home, the home rule that lumbers you with a Trident lodg…  […]

  29. Cag-does-thinking says:

    For what it’s worth I can’t help but think the Home Rule has been brought out of the cupboard and dusted off to put into the voters minds that there is a parallel with Ireland and in a not subtle way to appeal to the marching voters. They do seem to have used a whole chapter of names in the last few weeks but I think that has only bred confusion as to what their campaign is called this week. At least Yes is Yes (even if there is STILL no Yes literature coming through the doors in Jim Murphy’s heartland…..)

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